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And what also weirds me out is that you think rayn cared in that game because I don't agree with that at all.
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On November 29 2014 03:41 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:33 Damdred wrote:
No need for me to be voting for my town read when I didn't put the vote down. Alright I'm having issues figuring out how to explain this, but this post feels like it's written from a scum perspective. Wouldn't a townie be more concerned about "I shouldn't be voting for town" and less "i shouldnt' be voting for my town read? if that makes sense
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Would you write it this way? Because I don't think I would.
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On November 29 2014 03:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
no i never painted u as scummy for that vote wahtsoever
I asked u to work with town to consolidate And you've been asked to read the game and post your thoughts.
This.
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On November 29 2014 03:46 Superbia wrote:
Also we're not killing Palmar today.
Do explain.
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On November 29 2014 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Am I stupid or are Waves recent posts really weird? He says he scumreads rayn takes FFL2 to prove that while thinking he was town there (?). Wut? Of course it was weird, I screwed up and realized it right after I posted. Either way, I was trying to show how Rayn cares more as town than scum and while FFL2 showed him caring a little, it's certainly more than he cares here. I have a question for you though, why did you bring up the example? On November 29 2014 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 02:47 marvellosity wrote:
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Palmar never does that. I'm much more comfortable complimenting myself.
Dunno if it means anything though. Like you've seen how Palmar enjoys to dig at me "not that offsite game you ragequit because you're not man enough trolol" -----> "marv's reads are extremely likely to be right" Oh you meant specifically. Thought you were you were joking around ego-wise. Um...I mean....I guess? We just have a massive coin-flip of a waste of a slot here and I truly don't like not really attempting to find real scum D1. I mean yes Palmar could very well be scum but then it's not exactly like we 'caught' him, is it? And yet leaving him alive doesn't serve us any purpose....subvaouybvalwbgvaligbadlgb Now you are concerned witch catching scum instead of just lynching them suddenly? What? Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him. I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game. On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave? That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons. Let me read him because I haven't. If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2. Here and a couple other places in your filter you bring up rayn subtly painting him in a scummy light and then you don't do anything about it. Is there a particular reason? Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum. What is there that does not make sense to you? Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here. It was a response to you linking FFL2 to Sn0. And I still doubt my read. Answer my question JAT. If Rayn is so scummy to you that you need to bring up evidence as to his scumminess to both me AND Sn0, why haven't you done anything about it?
Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything.
What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list.
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On November 29 2014 03:49 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:46 Superbia wrote:
Also we're not killing Palmar today. Do explain. Because I feel he's town and he always gets killed for dumb fucking reasons near EoD.
Why do you feel he is town?
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On November 29 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Am I stupid or are Waves recent posts really weird? He says he scumreads rayn takes FFL2 to prove that while thinking he was town there (?). Wut? Of course it was weird, I screwed up and realized it right after I posted. Either way, I was trying to show how Rayn cares more as town than scum and while FFL2 showed him caring a little, it's certainly more than he cares here. I have a question for you though, why did you bring up the example? On November 29 2014 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:
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Now you are concerned witch catching scum instead of just lynching them suddenly? What? Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him. I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game. On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave? That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons. Let me read him because I haven't. If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2. Here and a couple other places in your filter you bring up rayn subtly painting him in a scummy light and then you don't do anything about it. Is there a particular reason? Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum. What is there that does not make sense to you? Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here. It was a response to you linking FFL2 to Sn0. And I still doubt my read. Answer my question JAT. If Rayn is so scummy to you that you need to bring up evidence as to his scumminess to both me AND Sn0, why haven't you done anything about it? Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything. What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list. Why are you still waiting for him to deliver with 4 hours left on the first day? It seems are you're already attempting to convince yourself and others he is scum but not really pushing it particularly hard, and it really rubs me the wrong way.
You mean I am scummy for going after your scumread?
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On November 29 2014 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I just called your gf a shitter then.
And you're not lying down, don't lie to your gf. I'm lying in bed on my phone right next to her?
How are you writing this while you are lying on your phone?
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On November 29 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Am I stupid or are Waves recent posts really weird? He says he scumreads rayn takes FFL2 to prove that while thinking he was town there (?). Wut? Of course it was weird, I screwed up and realized it right after I posted. Either way, I was trying to show how Rayn cares more as town than scum and while FFL2 showed him caring a little, it's certainly more than he cares here. I have a question for you though, why did you bring up the example? On November 29 2014 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
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Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him. I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game. On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave? That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons. Let me read him because I haven't. If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2. Here and a couple other places in your filter you bring up rayn subtly painting him in a scummy light and then you don't do anything about it. Is there a particular reason? Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum. What is there that does not make sense to you? Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here. It was a response to you linking FFL2 to Sn0. And I still doubt my read. Answer my question JAT. If Rayn is so scummy to you that you need to bring up evidence as to his scumminess to both me AND Sn0, why haven't you done anything about it? Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything. What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list. Why are you still waiting for him to deliver with 4 hours left on the first day? It seems are you're already attempting to convince yourself and others he is scum but not really pushing it particularly hard, and it really rubs me the wrong way. You mean I am scummy for going after your scumread? I don't see how this is relevant. Of course you can be.
No, that should not be his first reaction to it. How about you give your opinion on the whole matter instead of posting this post which is irrelevant itself?
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On November 29 2014 03:58 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 03:50 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:49 Superbia wrote:On November 29 2014 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 03:46 Superbia wrote:
Also we're not killing Palmar today. Do explain. Because I feel he's town and he always gets killed for dumb fucking reasons near EoD. Why do you feel he is town? Mostly this post: Show nested quote +On November 27 2014 19:49 Palmar wrote:On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.
Is super smart. Another interesting tidbit is that this first post by mafia is almost always some kind of a fluffy comment. I didn't write down the posts (I should have) but it was pretty obvious that during the first... 20? posts of the game, mafia posts just to post. So I'm literally only going to do that today. just read the first 20 posts or so and find the mafia in there. I really liked Obi's post as well. The fact that he's completely acting upon this thing is a bit weird, but not scum indicative. In fact I think it's rather townie, especially coupled with the fact that he's giving the appearance of being busy due to thanksgiving. I also personally liked the little tidbit of me being the first post in every town game I've been in. Also I agree with most his (limited) reads, excepting the rayn part. I haven't really read rayn. Though I'm mostly defending him here because I felt a "lolz let's vote for plammar gais" garbage lynch coming, into him flipping town, into town having made 0 progression.
Fair enough.
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On November 29 2014 04:04 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
The more you post superbia the less I like you as town :/ I find this really hard to believe. Yesterday you essentially said you agreed with my points on GB, and since then I've interacted with GB and giving my input on Elvis and Sent. Care to elaborate why you're reading my posts as scummy?
I would also love to hear this.
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On November 29 2014 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
I couldn't care less if you pushed every single one of my scummiest reads either that means nothing in tl mafia if you look scummy doing it I'll push you
Cool story bro. Now to the part where you give an opinion on the actual read.
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Also the circle of life continues if you say that after calling me out for scumreading you despite having similar reads.
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Thought that comment was directed at me for the wave/rayn thing.
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On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.
You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you. That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town. This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.
If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too.
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On November 29 2014 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Where's sentinel with his scumreads?
Sentinel has no scumreads.
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On November 29 2014 04:22 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.
You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you. That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town. This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid. If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too. In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here: 1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck. 2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar. 3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk. 4. Palmar gets lynched. 5. Palmar flips town.
You are either misremembering or intentionally trying to mislead here. By the time he was lynched in werewolf Palmar was easily the towniest player in the game (he had also given a good amount of different reads) which made the fact that those idiots lynched him so awesome for us scummers.
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On November 29 2014 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred. fuck you and i am here and reading. yo uare scum because of this post in which everything is wrong in and you haven't done shit in this game besides one good observation on Superbia.
Cute.
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On November 29 2014 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 01:57 marvellosity wrote:On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred. you srsly saying he doesn't do this as town? :> yeah not to mention i explained both of the reads.
You said superbias playstyle is different and damdred has his "own logic". That's hardly an explanation.
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On November 29 2014 04:33 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 04:22 Superbia wrote:On November 29 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.
You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you. That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town. This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid. If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too. In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here: 1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck. 2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar. 3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk. 4. Palmar gets lynched. 5. Palmar flips town. You are either misremembering or intentionally trying to mislead here. By the time he was lynched in werewolf Palmar was easily the towniest player in the game (he had also given a good amount of different reads) which made the fact that those idiots lynched him so awesome for us scummers. What? I did not feel like he was the towniest player at all at that point in the game (though to be honest, I do not know who was, that game was a clusterfuck for town). I remember agreeing with the pressure on Palmar, but finding the lynch mindbogglingly bad. Maybe my read on Palmar is bad, so I'd love to see a case on why he's scum here. As it stands I still believe it's a shit lynch.
I don't think it is possible to make a case for Palmar being scum OR town here which is the problem.
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