Student Mafia IV (New/Newish Players Welcome)

On November 25 2014 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Im a horrible day 1 player might just coast.

On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.

On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)

On November 25 2014 09:09 Breshke wrote:


What if i decide to play completely different to last game? I don't think one games experience is enough to have a good read on someone at least im not going to claim that on you.

On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.

On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.

On November 25 2014 10:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you said that SL, you now have a town lean for me after all of this. But when i ask you for a comprehensive read on breske that you are sure you can give and youdon't i will instantly vote you

On November 25 2014 13:02 batsnacks wrote:
First person to vote LS for suggesting sleep is mafia.

On November 25 2014 23:20 Half the Sky wrote:
My reads so far...

Breshke - Leaning town, now that I understand his vote to be a joke vote.
sicklucker - Not sure. His subsequent posts were okay, but I still don't understand what he was trying to do with the whole afk thing.
LS, alaka and DSMI - Nulls, couldn't tell either way.
Bats - I don't like the timing of the policy vote, I could understand if it were closer to the deadline but not now. Both him and kush are veterans, and enough veterans in the game to take note if kush had afked more. Vote on Oats looks like retaliation. Grasping for straws?
Oats - Town lean so far.

TLDR: Nothing strong on anyone. The SL AFK and the policy vote timing/explanation are what aren't sitting right with me at the moment.

On November 26 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:
I don't think LS is mafia based on his posting being highly similar to last game (he was cop)

On November 25 2014 13:00 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got back from playing Pokemon Trading Card game with some friends and went to a late dinner at Red Robin so sorry about my activity T_T
Breshke just seems to be mad at sicklucker for what happened in our previous game :O
Batsnacks lost his mind or he is scum trying to go after kush but kush didn't post anything just yet so I don't got a read on kush.
Oatsmaster is town in my eyes as he is being very constructive on the agenda for Day 1.
Are we allow to sleep on anyday because I remember in my last game we had slept for 1 day and I wondering if we are allowed to becausee personally I don't think Day 1 lynching is a good idea because of possible afks or just having horrible reads.

On November 26 2014 08:25 Trfel wrote:
I stated my mafia experience earlier. I haven't played on any other sites, and I've never played with Damdred before.

I'm not saying you guys should agree with me, I'm saying, here's the evidence, and here's what I think of it. Feel free to look up more info by yourself, and reach your own conclusions. I want to know what you guys think, that's why I posted.

I don't feel like you need to play with someone to be able to have some ability to read them. All of the posts are saved... just by reading a game, you can get a good idea for what's going on.

On November 26 2014 08:33 kushm4sta wrote:
sicklucker.
thinking scum can't make a long post will get you in trouble.

Why is rsoutin scum?

On November 26 2014 08:58 kushm4sta wrote:
sicklucker - confirmed bad at the game

On November 26 2014 09:21 meatpudding wrote:
I haven't really made good reads on most people. Some players are spamming and trolling a lot. Not really able to get a good idea.

bats and oats seem to know each other and are talking a lot. I would like to see you two focus less on each other.


HTS

Being very defensive. At least he is asking stuff and showing some reasoning. I think he is fairly cautious but nothing stands out that would make me call him scummy. In fact I would lean town on HTS at this point.

Breshke

His first vote for sicklucker is not alignment indicative in any way. At least it put some pressure on him to start the game.



I would read Breshke as town just because of this post.

sicklucker

I said it before, his setups and meta-plays look really weird. If he pulls some valuable info then ok, I will accept the value of it. But right now I think that he is setting himself up to distance from his own posts and I don't like that. Kind of scummy but not my highest priority lynch.



His counter onto Breshke seems really scummy though. Easy to see that his vote was because sicklucker is at best donkey town.

LS

Says oats is being very constructive. Not sure I 100% agree with that read.

kush

afk's. Reads damdred as top scum. Then switches votes to cock even though he wasn't in his scumpile. Slightly scummy I think.

Damdred

Opens with 'ignore me,' yea right. I like his line of questioning tho, very active. Seems very defensive of sickluckers play. Pushing on sicklucker a lot though. I'm slightly suspicious of the early interaction between Damdred, HTS, and sicklucker (see below)

slam



Why vote breshke? Because you're scum. Or did you even read the thread. I have no idea why you would want to vote him as town. Anyway you unvote before he has a chance to respond and then go afk.

cock

Interaction at the beginning seems weird. Most posts are devoid of anything to read.

Oats

Some defensive posting. seems to say a lot without saying a lot.

Trfel

Super logic. I'm not sure I follow his argument, but at least he has an argument.

batsnacks

Basically just tunnelled on oats. Not sure I can lean either way with this.


OK something that caught my eye in the very first posts (p5). sicklucker sets his 'trap' and Breshke falls into it. Damdred and sicklucker set up some rapport. Then HTS questions Breshke's response. sicklucker jumps on it straight away to say how townie it is that HTS would defend him like this. He says 'A mafia would be unlikely to defend me.' At this point I see Damdred trying to pull info from sicklucker, kind of indirectly trying to defend him.

So, I don't think that HTS is mafia. But if sicklucker is, then I wouldn't be surprised if Damdred was his partner. To me, it looks like they are trying to align, without directly giving each other a town read.

On November 26 2014 09:26 meatpudding wrote:


[B]Marry is towniest of town. Bang, I would consider you town for now, but it just might not last. Kill is scum.[B/]

On November 26 2014 09:38 meatpudding wrote:


HTS = HalfTheSky

On November 26 2014 10:03 rsoultin wrote:


Reread your posts and it was SLs comment on trying to lead town you were agreeing with, not the no-lynch suggestion. My bad.

I'll accept the alibi for now. Still find the timing coincidental, but you were active at about this time yesterday, too.

##unvote

On November 19 2014 10:59 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
/in
I'm not really a newbie so put me down as either in just don't wanna force someone out of a spot they want/need.

On November 25 2014 09:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

i kinda agree with this.

On November 26 2014 11:06 Breshke wrote:
I really like Kush this game but that could just be because he is imensly different from last. I also like Trefl because i think with his experience I can overlook the fact that he wrote a lot of words but didnt take hard stances this could be wrong though.

As much as i still don't get SL's play he is probably town i.e. wouldnt lynch him today.

I also agree with kush about dicksmash but wouldn't vote him until I see what he posts at a later time like he promised.

Really confused about Oats and bats need to reread stuff. Other people i havn't done anything that have stuck out to me so they are null for me.

This is all really weak but i've had some dental work and can't concentrate that much

On November 26 2014 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually the way bats went after kush was really towny, Kush is the most lurky beligerent and breaking promises mafia person i've ever played with.

Town kush is just so different, which he is different here.

On November 26 2014 12:10 Breshke wrote:
SL i didnt speak about damdred because i have nothing to say. He questioned you about your interaction with me and i liked it. Suprising that the two people that pushed on you this game you think have "weird interactions'. What do you think of him other than weird interactions if you think there was a read that i skipped im sure you have one.

Also i don't think the policy lynch on kush is townie nor is it mafia. From what i saw last game and from what people have said it seems like kush will play a average game as mafia weather he is pushed or not. Bats has also moved on from it so unless he tries to push it again later it shouldn't be worried about.

On November 26 2014 19:01 Breshke wrote:
Hey meat pudding so i saw your stuff on the damdred/SL interaction but i see it differently from you. I think if damdred is mafia he doesnt single out SL in his initial post (not that he was talking about alignments but he still specifically mentions SL)



And then i don't think he goes on to question his scum partner so meticulously. This is just a gut feeling though like i don't think in this setup scum comes out and interacts that much with their partner when bussing is definitely an option for them. Although you can go down an entire meta hole of thats exactly why he would do it.

Anyway are these two still your scum reads? What do you think of batsnacks and oatsmaster?

On November 27 2014 05:26 Half the Sky wrote:


I sent both PMs. Hopefully they will see it as it's very close.

On November 27 2014 05:32 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, here's a question to Damdred and anyone else who cares to weigh in.

Isn't there a mod-kill policy for people who don't vote? So why are we pushing anyone who still hasn't voted?

On November 27 2014 05:40 Damdred wrote:
Why will you look the worst out of everyone on dicksmash?

On November 27 2014 05:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Regarding the no-votes, DSMI voted Bats, but that vote wasn't counted as it wasn't in the correct format.

Breshke being Aussie has a timezone disadvantage, so if he votes, will be forced to vote last minute.

And Alakaslam has been inactive so who knows if he'll vote.

On November 27 2014 06:38 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

Yea basically half the people on my wagon aren't even here to invite. I have nothing more to add since bats has conveniently decided to not be present since I made my views on him known. Plus you know packing to leave for vacation n stuff

On November 27 2014 07:07 rsoultin wrote:
I think it's ridiculous for town to know who is mafia based on Dick turning up town on a Day 1 lynch but maybe you can school us for once SL.

On November 27 2014 07:27 Breshke wrote:


Where did i say this????

On November 27 2014 07:07 rsoultin wrote:
I think it's ridiculous for town to know who is mafia based on Dick turning up town on a Day 1 lynch but maybe you can school us for once SL.

On November 27 2014 07:38 batsnacks wrote:
Wait am I not dead? Sorry I missed deadline.

On November 27 2014 07:39 Breshke wrote:


Maybe you should concentrate on your posts more so you dont make mistakes like this then.

On November 27 2014 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:

Oats and Damndred. Sorry the late reply for the night post but my fears had happened :|. rsoultin your apology is accepted.
My reads had now changed because of this lynching.
My scum team are the ones who pushed for DSMI
Kush
Oatsmaster
Damndred.
If we got a cop check one of those 3 out. If we got a Tracker go on to anyone since we got possible setups with a doctor revealed and we got no idea which setup is being used except for either Set up A or Set up C :|

On November 27 2014 08:01 Alakaslam wrote:
Looks like a few people.

So I hear DSMIC did little or nothing to defend from hearsay comments right after the lynch.

What was the reason he was lynched given?

If nobody can think of it and put it down fast enough for me to see it, then whoever led the lynch is probably mafia.

Note, the leader is not the first voter, it is the person who most actively pursued the lynch.

On November 27 2014 08:09 Breshke wrote:


What is the significance of this? Please draw conclusions don't just recount what happened.

On November 27 2014 09:17 meatpudding wrote:
Damn. He didn't even try to defend himself.

On November 27 2014 09:55 Breshke wrote:
Because I wasn't going to take the vote off of dicksmash. Yes i thought he could have been town but you had a good case and he hardly even tried after that. Yeah he was the doctor but he didn't even try to defend himself I was happy with that lynch going though but i would have been happier with a bats lynch. Bats has been more involved though so im not going to try and force the lynch onto someone that will give stuff lateer in the day over someone who wasnt even trying.

Why did you specifically say i had other questionable actions yet you cant pinpoint anything else?

On November 27 2014 11:03 Breshke wrote:
Guess what SL you can actually think more than one person is scummy. There is 3 scum in this game. I never said i didn't want to vote him, I just wanted to vote bats more.

How about you explain why damdreds case convinced you so suddenly that it made you be able to read him town and DSMIC mafia?

On November 27 2014 11:05 rsoultin wrote:
Yo, SL, gonna tell ppl why you think I'm scum as you were asked, or just keep pointing fingers at everyone and everyone with no or weak nonsensical explanations?

On November 27 2014 11:06 Breshke wrote:
So you have played one game with him and you think that gives you a god meta read?

What in his case was so convincing?

On November 27 2014 11:42 Breshke wrote:


I don't see whats so hard about this answer the question? Why are you stalling why cant you say what you found so convincing about damdreds case.

You have a good read on him but he is null for you right now. Why is he null for you know but was town for you before the lynch?

On November 27 2014 11:42 Breshke wrote:


I don't see whats so hard about this answer the question? Why are you stalling why cant you say what you found so convincing about damdreds case.

You have a good read on him but he is null for you right now. Why is he null for you know but was town for you before the lynch?

On November 27 2014 12:10 Breshke wrote:


Are we talking about damdred? You deffs voted with damdred?

On November 27 2014 12:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

There is plenty.
Early on, there wasnt much traction for bats.
Damdred fucking went hardddd defending him.

Now when it comes down with lynch, damdred doesnt have a very strong scum read that he had been pushing, he better find one quick because he cant 180 and lynch bats.

All this is irregardless of bats alignment.

On November 27 2014 12:56 batsnacks wrote:


I think kush is town. Even if you don't think he's town he shouldn't be considered for the lynch tomorrow.

This requires operating under the assumption I'm town, but mafia kush wouldn't move a lynch off of me and onto dick, because mafia kush would know we're both town and it wouldn't matter to him which one of us got lynched. If anything I think mafia kush would have been happier to lynch me because I was posting more.

On November 27 2014 13:08 batsnacks wrote:

That post you liked about kush also applies to damdred, you know.

On November 28 2014 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
Trfel writes these huge posts and I never finish reading them feeling like I've gained anything. I read his entire filter and the only thing I've taken away from it is that I'm mafia because meta, even though we've never played together, and damdred is my scum mate even though that makes zero sense.

On November 28 2014 05:38 kushm4sta wrote:
Way too much talking during night. Especially on thanksgiving. Stfu all of you.

On November 28 2014 07:26 batsnacks wrote:
Everything SL is saying is so wrong. "More than 1/4 chance I'm mafia" where do you get this stuff?

On November 28 2014 07:44 Damdred wrote:


Do you take us for newb scum players?

On November 28 2014 07:47 batsnacks wrote:


So you think me and damdred are mafia. You think damdred's plan as mafia is to draw attention to the both of us by defending me. And you think our plan is to kill the people who are pushing us, because that somehow makes us less suspicious?

That's actually what you think???

On November 28 2014 07:49 Breshke wrote:
Sicklucker you need to look at stuff from like further away i guess. Stop focusing on just the night kills it wont make anyone convinced even if it convinces you. You think damdred and bats have something to gain from killing trefel? This may be true and one of them may be scum or even both but guess what. Me and you were also trefels strongest townreads, so if you are focusing solely on the night kill why arnt i scum, why arnt you scum for killing trefel and making his town read on us everlasting.

On November 28 2014 07:59 batsnacks wrote:


I explained to you why you don't have good points. You should get new ones.

On November 28 2014 08:01 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop also you've been saying me and damdred are mafia team for a while now so no that's not just a spur of the moment theory you just now cooked up.

On November 28 2014 08:07 Damdred wrote:
See you say you want town to win SL but you are dragging the thread through shit just to pit out crazy wrong theories currently and want people to scum hunt but keep throwing stuff at me and bats

On November 28 2014 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Cause you guys are dumb you are attacking him with undefensible attack that only adds to your tunnel

On November 28 2014 08:29 batsnacks wrote:
All aboard.

On November 28 2014 11:28 kushm4sta wrote:


Um how have a bussed bats? ive been defending him.

In fact my day 2 scumreads will likely be completely different from my d1 scumreads.

On November 28 2014 14:10 batsnacks wrote:

You have no issues with his reads, you just wish there were less of them? Who cares if they're wrong he's sharing what he thinks. More of that is better.

And about half of those reads were borderline null.

On November 28 2014 14:29 Damdred wrote:
What does everyone think of half?

On November 28 2014 15:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well anyway this game kinda stalled.

Everyone, top 3 lynch people pls.
bats
meatpudding
rsoultin

Hey damdred, have you ever said something like "I would never do this as scum" when you were scum?

On November 26 2014 22:23 meatpudding wrote:
I'm going with my guts and voting sicklucker.

He conveys a lot of confidence in his reads, but I don't see any reasoning behind them. I'm not really sure where he stands on breshke.



This read on Damdred is super mysterious and odd. I think he's trying to make it look like he's contributing more than he is.


This is a good start but where is the follow up? If he was town I think it would be important to push on this statement.


He seems to be handing out reads at random. Trying to justify everything by saying 'I have a good reason but I just can't tell you.' I feel like his game plan is to not get lynched rather than figure out the game.

##Vote sicklucker

On November 28 2014 22:36 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up after going to bed after my last post and I asked who my top 3 scum are and here is mine that are here
meatpudding
kushm4sta
Alakaslam
@rsoultin The only wagon at the time was Dicksmash McIroncock and other cases that wasn't well put out and few people who I felt was townie voted for Dicksmash McIroncock so sorry if I put it all on you but it was mainly your push to get me to vote kind of forced my hand :|

On November 26 2014 09:33 sicklucker wrote:
If your so sure of mine and dandreds interactions how did you miss the posts where he asked me If I thik breske is scum and I said no? Because I have yet to call breske scum the worst I called him was "weird"

On November 26 2014 09:34 sicklucker wrote:
I already found holes in meats story I dont like him at all.

On November 29 2014 05:15 LightningStrike wrote:

I scared because last game I did vote to much and got me lynched and I thought changing my vote a lot would be seem scummy so it just a lesson I learned from my last game that's all.

On November 29 2014 05:28 batsnacks wrote:


slam
hts
???

On November 29 2014 10:00 meatpudding wrote:
Hi guys.

Sorry I couldn't post. I went to school after the storm hit but they closed the labs for repair. I can't post form my phone

Anyway caught up now. I wanted to post my thoughts at the end of night, but it's pretty much moot now.

[B]Also, I wanted to push on slam, but because of the replacement I would change my read from scum to null.[B/]

On November 30 2014 09:41 Damdred wrote:
Rsoultin hammered him

On November 30 2014 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
btw I pushed HTS because I thought he was LS

On November 30 2014 06:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Roger Bats
##unvote
##vote: Half the Sky

On November 30 2014 10:43 Breshke wrote:


This doesnt make sense to me

On November 30 2014 07:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Well GGs, frustrating, but that's that.

I refused to switch because I believed he was town, I'm going to be revealed as town shortly, but some of you really shot yourselves in the foot.

On December 01 2014 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry for not posting in the Night I was still in shock that Kush got lynched when I tried to save T_T
Kush if you read this I sorry I tried to save you but failed

On December 01 2014 07:34 batsnacks wrote:


Damdred and hopeless were sheeping me too, in his defense.

On December 01 2014 11:43 Oatsmaster wrote:

Can you not?

Lol we are losing hard, its 6-3 now.

One lynch before lylo.

On December 01 2014 19:31 Breshke wrote:
SL what is your read on hopeless right now? Is it town?

On December 01 2014 19:35 Half the Sky wrote:
I've given my reasons for wanting to vote LS, both Meat and him to me I've explained at least twice each now.

I cannot vote them both here.

On December 01 2014 20:42 batsnacks wrote:
What's sad is at least 1 townie is voting lightning.

On December 01 2014 05:43 batsnacks wrote:
Oh and don't waste a lynch lightning. If lightning is mafia we lose.