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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 03 2014 21:58 GMT
#1814
What are the chances Oats is suspicious since he's discouraged us from voting Bats?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 03 2014 22:08 GMT
#1821
Rasputin, give me a shout if you want me to change my vote.

##vote batsnacks
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 03 2014 22:20 GMT
#1828
GG Sicklucker. We won't let you down.

Bats, please. Mafia is a team game. You should know that as a vet
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 03 2014 22:29 GMT
#1833
On December 04 2014 07:28 batsnacks wrote:
I'm glad we agree but why are you voting me then?


Pardon me whilst I fix your broken sarcasm meter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 03 2014 22:35 GMT
#1835
Calling an early night here.

Meatpudding: Leaving you a question for when you arrive, can I get some updated reads from you, please? Cheers.

Good night everyone, onwards to victory!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 04 2014 13:04 GMT
#1930
Thought I asked Meat for the above as well....

Meat, yes, those were my thoughts.

Alright, so I'm back. So I read through Hopeless filter, saw the 1-2 posts on SL. SL was def town.

Caught up on this thread.
I've been uncomfortable with Bats gameplay all game. There's too much from him that indicates he's not town, and he's done almost nothing to establish credibility that he is. That's the approach I see. Why no one (Oats or) whoever is explaining why he's town is also pretty indicative and ironically as Meat said, we're not entirely agreeing on the approach to Hopeless. Even Meat asked this.

Rasputin pointed this out already but he said he didn't like how Oats sounded absolutely so sure about his argument.
It screams to me "Oats what on earth do you have to hide?"
The kicker to me is in the choices and what to do afterwards based on how everyone's playing.
Bats is the scummier to me regardless.

The lack of the cop makes me consider some of these scum guys knew they could get away with some of their arguments.
If Hopeless flips town, then I'm stuck between Bats and Oats. I'm not sure Meat is scum after reading LS posts.
If Hopeless is town, at that point, I'd vote Bats. A worst case scenario would result in LYLO and people not fully sure where to go next.

If we vote Bats, if Bats flips scum, we know what to do based on motive.
If Bats is town, that clears Oats and we know to go to Hopeless.

I am falling into the same boat here - it's all about credibility and I'm not buying into the manner that some are debating here.

Hopeless is suspicious for lurking this long but there's some motivation to keep the pressure off Bats, and that's the biggest issue for me.
The fact that Meat has also questioned it also confirms I'm not the only one puzzled by this or the way Oats is reacting.

I also do think Meat needs to give us some updates.

But yes those are my thoughts for now, unchanged since last night.

Also looking forward to Hopeless picking it up. Let's see what happens.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
December 04 2014 13:07 GMT
#1931
Oats, this really is how you play all the time? It seems weird. Just saying.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
December 04 2014 13:08 GMT
#1932
Meat: Your explanation for me is....?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
December 04 2014 17:27 GMT
#1961
On December 05 2014 01:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 00:50 batsnacks wrote:
HTS several people have explained why I'm town at every stage of the game. Why do you/rs keep saying there's no precedent for me being town?

You're either not reading or selectively reading.


Weird way to phrase it. What are you actually asking? As for several people explaining why...he's talking too much to be scum is kind of a laughable defense imo. Especially when none of the games I saw you in you were a complete non-entity. But then, I keep saying I don't trust meta, and everyone here still likes to try to shove it down my throat.

This obsession with how many pages is in someone's filter seems to be a pretty superficial way to go scum hunting. And a very easy one to get around.


Yea, this is the thing, both extremes are bad. Lurking is bad, but then excessive spam is actually a good way to muddle things up for the town, makes it harder to filter dive, and using sheer activity as a defence, I have no idea why you're doing this Bats.

Also people have explained why you're scum at every stage of the game. Aside from Rasputin, Trfel and Sicklucker were two others.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 04 2014 17:30 GMT
#1964
On December 04 2014 10:44 meatpudding wrote:
sl was for pushing hopeless today, he said it several times. Did he give any reason for it? Perhaps it was by the process of elimination by who he thought was town? If I remember correctly it was oats who suggested first to lynch hopeless.


Actually he was not, Meatpudding. Here are the relevant quotes:

On December 03 2014 11:39 sicklucker wrote:
I think that bats/ls being the two people to vote meat after me makes him a likely town. So we vote bats out next almost certainly. If he shows mafia we never vote out meat its too unlikely.


On December 03 2014 11:37 sicklucker wrote:
Bats and Hopeless1der are the most likely mafia team. Lynch them in that order

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 00:24 GMT
#1977
The problem with Meat is he doesn't like the case against bats. Also I don't think he like I voted for him though he didn't say that, but that's likely one of the triggers.

He clearly didn't read EoD D2, otherwise he wouldn't think I'm scum. So I just need to re-explain to him. My sentiments echo yours fully Rasputin.

Him thinking I am doesn't make me think he is. I told before I think LS filter helps his case.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 12:13 GMT
#1995
He said by last night or Friday....something like that. He has today but it's cutting it close.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 12:16 GMT
#1996
Yeah I'm weird. Oats, I think you'll need a better defence than that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 12:21 GMT
#1997
EBWOP - Not just for me, but for anyone. Anyways what is your basis for scumlisting Meat?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 16:08 GMT
#2000
Go for it. Looking forward to reading them. I don't agree with most here putting you as #1 candidate for lynch but you lurking this long has bothered me. Because you haven't been here to post, I cannot read you well. Simple as.

That is where I stand. I have been told by Oats that RL reasons are not valid.

Take that as you will. But that is my position on you. Let me know any questions you have.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 17:38 GMT
#2004
Fair play then. I'll keep that in mind going for future games here if that's the standard.
Much appreciated on the reads, any guidance is great going forward.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 18:47 GMT
#2006
You've voted Meat I think, we have our votes on Bats atm...breshke gets up barely before EoD.
EoD is 10pm here, I'll be around depending on what you all want to do. I won't seak for Rasutin but Meat isn't scum to me atm so it doesn't appear my vote is going anywhere.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#2007
Basically Hopeless my point here is, that it is possible to save you. Breshke's EoD is 8am and he's been up every EoD.
(Correct me if I'm wrong Rasputin.) I cannot speak for Breshke and cannot guarantee his action but I am just trying to say all isn't lost on your end.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 19:49 GMT
#2010
Hopeless, what specifically stuck out to you about Bats/Meat?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 21:03 GMT
#2015
Thank you for the detailed analysis. Now I don't feel so bad for not being able to follow or understand Meatpudding easily.
He is a new player but I cannot grasp where he's going or coming from with his posts. We tried to figure what I did to trigger him.

My biggest issue with him is a lack of defence for his end.

It's not fully indicative or definite but it makes sense.
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