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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:35 GMT
#101
Usually votes within the first page are pressure votes especially when you say hey i'm town going to afk. Of course you need to be back in the thread.

But look at the post that you are slightly town reading sky for, hes not defending you at all hes look at motives for bresh slightly without any real pressure. Half of it won't get any answer and then he discredits himself with the last sentence slightly . So not sur ei'm seeing what you are unless you are just looking to give people town reads for no reason
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:36 GMT
#102
On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote:
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.


Cool stuff what do you think of the couple things that have been posted so far
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 24 2014 23:39 GMT
#103
On November 25 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
imo day ones are stupid. I never take too much info out of day one but I do try to get some and start the game rolling I try to take charge as town. Im certainly not going to vote breske because of it , this is the kind of thing you look back at when you have more information.


Kind of agree with your day one idea. Not to say that it's stupid, but it takes some time to make a decent read.

On November 25 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.


This is pretty townie. This got me at least one slight town read


Anyone could have said this. It's not uncommon to have a policy lynch on lurkers. I don't know why you would come out and say that it looks town. Unless you're going to say that it's a meta-play and you're trying to judge Breshke on his reaction to you saying he's town, but then you could say that everything is a play and you wouldn't have to be held to anything you said.

Anyway on the topic of policy, I wouldn't necessarily lynch all lurkers on day 1. Only if there was no reasonable candidate scum lynch.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 24 2014 23:41 GMT
#104
On November 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote:
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.


Cool stuff what do you think of the couple things that have been posted so far


I have my eye on sicklucker. Not really sure what he's up to but I expect he's fishing for reads. I would like to see what he comes up with by end of day. Otherwise I'm marking it as suspicious.
Be excellent to each other.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:48 GMT
#105
On November 25 2014 08:41 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote:
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.


Cool stuff what do you think of the couple things that have been posted so far


I have my eye on sicklucker. Not really sure what he's up to but I expect he's fishing for reads. I would like to see what he comes up with by end of day. Otherwise I'm marking it as suspicious.


I know its not much posted so far but is there anyone else you are looking at or hinking about?

On November 25 2014 08:39 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
imo day ones are stupid. I never take too much info out of day one but I do try to get some and start the game rolling I try to take charge as town. Im certainly not going to vote breske because of it , this is the kind of thing you look back at when you have more information.


Kind of agree with your day one idea. Not to say that it's stupid, but it takes some time to make a decent read.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.


This is pretty townie. This got me at least one slight town read


Anyone could have said this. It's not uncommon to have a policy lynch on lurkers. I don't know why you would come out and say that it looks town. Unless you're going to say that it's a meta-play and you're trying to judge Breshke on his reaction to you saying he's town, but then you could say that everything is a play and you wouldn't have to be held to anything you said.

Anyway on the topic of policy, I wouldn't necessarily lynch all lurkers on day 1. Only if there was no reasonable candidate scum lynch.


Could you alk more about the bolded and where lurker lynch/policy lynch came from.
Dicksmash McIroncock
Profile Joined December 2013
135 Posts
November 24 2014 23:49 GMT
#106
On November 25 2014 08:31 sicklucker wrote:
I like that your interrogating me but thats enough to give me a small read. Yes mafia can pocket me but its very unlikely when you get a town voted in the first five minutes, you dont go hey guys are we kinda jumping the gun a bit here?

wouldn't mafia go out of their way to look towny if they were being ballsy enough to vote in the first 5 minutes of the game?
"Open your mind, fill your veins with swag, and let in the based god"-Ghandi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 24 2014 23:50 GMT
#107
I agree my read was a little weak. I still dont think its something a mafia would say. Me jumping to quick reads is nothing new when I subbed into the last game on day two my first post was calling breske scummy and someone else town. The town read was right, the breske read was wrong but even he said his vote was super scummy for getting the cop killed.

The point is the guys who played with me last game know I make quick reads. But do they think that about breske? Im kind of curious because im not so sure he does.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 24 2014 23:58 GMT
#108
On November 25 2014 08:50 sicklucker wrote:
I agree my read was a little weak. I still dont think its something a mafia would say. Me jumping to quick reads is nothing new when I subbed into the last game on day two my first post was calling breske scummy and someone else town. The town read was right, the breske read was wrong but even he said his vote was super scummy for getting the cop killed.

The point is the guys who played with me last game know I make quick reads. But do they think that about breske? Im kind of curious because im not so sure he does.


Im still not entirely sure what you got out of your "play" but i wouldn't really say i was making a quick read.

You said you were going afk, as either allighnment this isnt good because it means i couldn't get a read off you. Im not sure who the question about me making quick reads is directed at but tell me, if i normally dont make quick reads what do you think of my allighnment? Same as if i do. I don't see where your questions are leading to.

##Unvote
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:59 GMT
#109
Breshke tell me what you think of half right now? SL you can answer as well
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 25 2014 00:01 GMT
#110
Meatpudding, if you could define lurker...when I think lurker I think of people who are theoretically in this game but aren't posting anything.

Regarding my post, I wasn't siding with anybody. Day 1, I feel it is too quick to accuse someone, so I was calling into question Breshke's vote approx 30 mins into Day 1, as it was pretty quick and I had made an incorrect assumption on sicklucker's experience with TLM, to which I thought Breshke's rationale (in his second post) made sense.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 25 2014 00:06 GMT
#111
Breske knows im super active and push the thread. I expect him to give me more time since he should be able to read me better then anyone else in this game since hes played the most with me. I also think ill read him better then most people here so I wont pass judgement.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 25 2014 00:08 GMT
#112
On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.


So i also thought this post was towny but for different reasons than SL said. The first time I read this i liked it because he was thinking about alignments like trying to work out what i was trying to do but on reread he doesn't think it was a possibility that i was voting SL because i thought he was mafia. Leaning town a little bit but mostly null.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 00:08 GMT
#113
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 25 2014 00:09 GMT
#114
On November 25 2014 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
Breske knows im super active and push the thread. I expect him to give me more time since he should be able to read me better then anyone else in this game since hes played the most with me. I also think ill read him better then most people here so I wont pass judgement.


What if i decide to play completely different to last game? I don't think one games experience is enough to have a good read on someone at least im not going to claim that on you.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 25 2014 00:11 GMT
#115
On November 25 2014 08:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:41 meatpudding wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote:
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.


Cool stuff what do you think of the couple things that have been posted so far


I have my eye on sicklucker. Not really sure what he's up to but I expect he's fishing for reads. I would like to see what he comes up with by end of day. Otherwise I'm marking it as suspicious.


I know its not much posted so far but is there anyone else you are looking at or hinking about?

Not really. Breshke and HtS look like they're trying to reason their way through the game. You're asking lots of questions which is good. Not enough info for me to put you on by bang list.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:39 meatpudding wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
imo day ones are stupid. I never take too much info out of day one but I do try to get some and start the game rolling I try to take charge as town. Im certainly not going to vote breske because of it , this is the kind of thing you look back at when you have more information.


Kind of agree with your day one idea. Not to say that it's stupid, but it takes some time to make a decent read.

On November 25 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.


This is pretty townie. This got me at least one slight town read


Anyone could have said this. It's not uncommon to have a policy lynch on lurkers. I don't know why you would come out and say that it looks town. Unless you're going to say that it's a meta-play and you're trying to judge Breshke on his reaction to you saying he's town, but then you could say that everything is a play and you wouldn't have to be held to anything you said.

Anyway on the topic of policy, I wouldn't necessarily lynch all lurkers on day 1. Only if there was no reasonable candidate scum lynch.


Could you alk more about the bolded and where lurker lynch/policy lynch came from.


Maybe I could explain the bolded part a bit better. sicklucker opens by saying he's going to afk. I guess he was fishing for a reaction from someone and Breshke jumps in and votes, because an afk town is essentially useless. (Though I would usually let the modkill go through).

Now sicklucker isn't playing afk at all, he seems to be poking and fishing around for responses. Could be ok, or could be suspicious.

I think it was way too early to give a town read for that just based on Breshke's response. Really easy for anyone to make that call. Now, since sicklucker backflipped on the afk deal, maybe he is just saying Breshke is town, and fishing for more info, or maybe he really is posting that as a read.

If it's a genuine read, I don't really think it's justified based on that small interaction. If it's fishing, then I can't really trust any of his reads because he can use that excuse to drop false information.

Actually on first read I thought he was saying that Breshke's vote was townie, but now it looks like he was saying HtS's defense was townie. Hm, maybe it's not so bad. Would like to hear whar sicklucker is really thinking now.

Often in other games players have put forward a Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policy. I don't really agree with these but I was wondering if anyone else follows policy votes. Also in other games we have posted our reads in Marry/Bang/Kill format. I'll be doing that once some more people have posted.


Be excellent to each other.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 25 2014 00:20 GMT
#116
On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)


Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#117
Ok I was almost leaning town on damdred but now hes just asking me questions hes ive already mostly answered
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#118
On November 25 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)


Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 25 2014 00:24 GMT
#119
On November 25 2014 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
Breske knows im super active and push the thread. I expect him to give me more time since he should be able to read me better then anyone else in this game since hes played the most with me. I also think ill read him better then most people here so I wont pass judgement.


What if i decide to play completely different to last game? I don't think one games experience is enough to have a good read on someone at least im not going to claim that on you.


I agree some but of all people I dont expect you to insta vote me. We just played for like 2 weeks you know I cant keep my mouth shut for very long. If anything I talk too much as town
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 25 2014 00:26 GMT
#120
On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)


Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.


Thats bullshit Everypost I made in this entire thread was about those two players. Its like your posting to make yourself look good while adding nothing.
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