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On November 26 2014 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 11:59 Damdred wrote:On November 26 2014 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 26 2014 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually the way bats went after kush was really towny, Kush is the most lurky beligerent and breaking promises mafia person i've ever played with.
Town kush is just so different, which he is different here.
Explain this is great detail. How is policy lynching someone inherently townie? Are you even reading this game? Your last question is inherently stupid oats, i'm not saying at all that policy lynching someone is towny infact it is null townies can use policy lynching and mafia can as well. I don't see as much what Bats was doing as much as it was pressure voting to get kush to do things or lurk more as mafia. Bats is aware of Kush meta and tried tos ee what he could get, I think the way bats went about it was towny and soon as kush showed up to do things and did them bats stopped on him. How else do you go about a policy lynch? you vote them and you explain your policy. THATS NOT TOWNIE. THATS NULL. The problem is that bat's policy was absurdly specific and based on more revenge than anything else.
I just said that policy Is null in my post.
Kush has a specific meta, an easily faked one perhaps but still soon as kush did things bats went on to do other things. So yea I think what bats did was pressure more than policy but that's just imo
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On November 26 2014 12:10 Breshke wrote:
SL i didnt speak about damdred because i have nothing to say. He questioned you about your interaction with me and i liked it. Suprising that the two people that pushed on you this game you think have "weird interactions'. What do you think of him other than weird interactions if you think there was a read that i skipped im sure you have one.
Also i don't think the policy lynch on kush is townie nor is it mafia. From what i saw last game and from what people have said it seems like kush will play a average game as mafia weather he is pushed or not. Bats has also moved on from it so unless he tries to push it again later it shouldn't be worried about.
Rly bro? He just rolls over and dies as mafia. Thats why policy voting him is not the worst thing ive ever heard
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fyi im highlighting the very small "average" grade you gave him not your whole post ;p
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On November 26 2014 13:06 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 26 2014 11:59 Damdred wrote:On November 26 2014 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 26 2014 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually the way bats went after kush was really towny, Kush is the most lurky beligerent and breaking promises mafia person i've ever played with.
Town kush is just so different, which he is different here.
Explain this is great detail. How is policy lynching someone inherently townie? Are you even reading this game? Your last question is inherently stupid oats, i'm not saying at all that policy lynching someone is towny infact it is null townies can use policy lynching and mafia can as well. I don't see as much what Bats was doing as much as it was pressure voting to get kush to do things or lurk more as mafia. Bats is aware of Kush meta and tried tos ee what he could get, I think the way bats went about it was towny and soon as kush showed up to do things and did them bats stopped on him. How else do you go about a policy lynch? you vote them and you explain your policy. THATS NOT TOWNIE. THATS NULL. The problem is that bat's policy was absurdly specific and based on more revenge than anything else. I just said that policy Is null in my post. Kush has a specific meta, an easily faked one perhaps but still soon as kush did things bats went on to do other things. So yea I think what bats did was pressure more than policy but that's just imo
Bats said it was policy. Bats posted it. I would think Bats is right and you are wrong when talking about things he did.
What are those "other things" that bat did?
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Why are you trying to split hairs with me here oats? The vote was clearly a pressure move be it bats calling it policy or not.
Bats changed votes drew attention to a case on him just off the top my head
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Sl whats your read on damdred? You didnt answer do you have one?
And if he rolls over and dies as mafia then he will do it with or without pressure, what bats did was probably good but it isnt alignment indicative.
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It involves ongoing games so no I will not. Their also early reads so I dont mind more time. Ive given a bit of it already
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so you have a read that you cant talk about which for all i know is as good as no read at all yet you were surprised i didn't specifically mention him?
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What do my reads have to do with you mentioning him...
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I did give reads tho. Like how he completely ignored you but asked me 22 qeustions
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On November 26 2014 13:34 Damdred wrote:
Why are you trying to split hairs with me here oats? The vote was clearly a pressure move be it bats calling it policy or not.
Bats changed votes drew attention to a case on him just off the top my head
Because you cant call a policy vote townie. You cant.
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All you are doing is splitting hairs and nitpicking oats. To me its more of a pressure vote rather than policy but its the same thing. Bats did something good for the thread got kush to participate.
SL I ask questions to others as well just some dodged me
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I don't really care about the fact that he policy voted, but I do care about how he tried to use the policy vote to avoid making actual reads.
As for some town leans, I'm thinking that Oatsmaster and Half the Sky are leaning town.
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On November 26 2014 14:56 Damdred wrote:
All you are doing is splitting hairs and nitpicking oats. To me its more of a pressure vote rather than policy but its the same thing. Bats did something good for the thread got kush to participate.
SL I ask questions to others as well just some dodged me
Anyway regardless of that, he still did nothing.
HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT FINDING SCUM.
ITS CLEAR.
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Bats do you think Oats is mafia or not? A lot of your filter is talking about how he is nitpicking and asking questions that arn't going anywhere yet you are voting Dicksmash at the moment who has been one of your town reads this game.
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On November 26 2014 10:14 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 10:07 sicklucker wrote:On November 26 2014 10:03 rsoultin wrote:On November 26 2014 09:54 meatpudding wrote:On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
##vote meatpudding
Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.
And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that? Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me. Reread your posts and it was SLs comment on trying to lead town you were agreeing with, not the no-lynch suggestion. My bad. I'll accept the alibi for now. Still find the timing coincidental, but you were active at about this time yesterday, too. ##unvote Im pretty sure meat made a small 1 liner post you missed and he was already around. Also I do buy his Australian excuse No offense, dude, but you're wrong. Check the filter. Over 24 hours passed between when he asked HTS for a read on kush yesterday and his Marry/Bang/Kill list today, which was posted about a half hour after I asked where he'd gotten off to. The coincidence of the timing is legit.
Nope. He's right. My posts were about 1/2 an hour apart. I was just chiming in while I caught up on the thread.
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On November 26 2014 10:30 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 10:24 batsnacks wrote:On November 26 2014 10:21 Trfel wrote:On November 26 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote:
Trfel point me toward what you think oats has gained and utilized from his nitpicking. All I see is people calling him out for it and people complaining about it. On November 26 2014 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
So I'm not a scum read rsoultin?
Interesting. Why aren't you putting in effort to find scum since you have no scum reads? I don't see an inquisitive mindset from you. This seems to be the best he's gotten. My point still stands, to me you are looking very much like scum. Trying to turn people's attentions towards Oatsmaster doesn't change that. I'm CLEARLY not trying to turn attention. Exactly the opposite. I have been trying to get people to pay attention to you and your case. I think oats is scum and I'm trying to explain it to you. You are voting me because I, allegedly, don't have scum reads. Simply having one scum read, which I feel started as a reaction for being voted for, doesn't feel like enough to me. Still though, I'll take a closer look later tonight. To everyone else (except Half the Sky, thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'll take a look at Damdred later tonight), I'd really like some feedback. If my case is really stupid, let me know. If it's full of holes, show them to me. Otherwise, vote for batsnacks.
I'm not convinced. If you were to sum up your case it seems you're saying that he was highly analytical in other games, but mostly posting without content in this game. So that might be a clue and it's a good observation. At the moment it puts him about equal with kush, slam, LS, rasputin who have not put in very much. (I know I have a one page filter too..).
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On November 26 2014 12:48 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
My mistake. It was page 10 when you first called HTS town but a couple posts later put him up as your scumread. SL wrant from null to scum as well. Though reading through bats filter I can see that of everyone he's made and effort to not post reads or reasoning for votes so for today my vote stand on him
## vote bats
This looks like you're just sheeping Trfel. At least he went to some effort to explain his reasoning. It's not like I think you're totally wrong but on the other hand he's not the only one who hasn't made reads.
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Hey meat pudding so i saw your stuff on the damdred/SL interaction but i see it differently from you. I think if damdred is mafia he doesnt single out SL in his initial post (not that he was talking about alignments but he still specifically mentions SL)
On November 25 2014 07:46 Damdred wrote:
The tryhards are out in their full glory besides SL.
Ignore me today while I find scum going to wreck them
And then i don't think he goes on to question his scum partner so meticulously. This is just a gut feeling though like i don't think in this setup scum comes out and interacts that much with their partner when bussing is definitely an option for them. Although you can go down an entire meta hole of thats exactly why he would do it.
Anyway are these two still your scum reads? What do you think of batsnacks and oatsmaster?
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On November 26 2014 19:01 Breshke wrote:Hey meat pudding so i saw your stuff on the damdred/SL interaction but i see it differently from you. I think if damdred is mafia he doesnt single out SL in his initial post (not that he was talking about alignments but he still specifically mentions SL) Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 07:46 Damdred wrote:
The tryhards are out in their full glory besides SL.
Ignore me today while I find scum going to wreck them And then i don't think he goes on to question his scum partner so meticulously. This is just a gut feeling though like i don't think in this setup scum comes out and interacts that much with their partner when bussing is definitely an option for them. Although you can go down an entire meta hole of thats exactly why he would do it. Anyway are these two still your scum reads? What do you think of batsnacks and oatsmaster?
Yeah that would make sense except SL was definitely drawing attention to himself at the time. So besides that, I would still have my suspicion on sicklucker, because he was super quick to give out town reads at that time, but since then hasn't given much of a read on anyone. He wasn't too fond of my initial case, but I didn't see him elaborate on the holes he says he found. I was really liking Damdred at first, I though his activity was bringing good results. I only had second thoughts when I went back to read it a second time. It just looked to me that when SL gave his first townread on HTS, that he was setting up for a read on Damdred to make them both confirmed town. Since I mentioned it they seem to have a point of disagreeing, but I could just be paranoid. I would not be opposed to lynching either one.
I need to read the part of the thread where bats and oats came in. It really confused my first time. I've said that I'm not sure about the case on bats, but I wouldn't say either are town atm.
I'm going to do some diving now. I don't think anyone else is around and I need to vote tonight because I won't be able to catch up before the hammer.
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