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On December 06 2014 17:45 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2014 15:20 rsoultin wrote:
Yes, I see that I was wrong. At least about bats. :/ I hate meta...meta is kicking my ass this game though so lol, guess I can't keep ignoring it. Same. Damdred was right again about Bats being the "scummiest townie" or however he put it.
Can't remember how he put it. What do you think, HTS? Someone's disappearing tonight, not sure who, but we might as well say what we think lol just in case this is anyone here's last chance.
You I'm almost completely sure of. It would have to take some ingenious orchestration and a hefty set of balls to pull off EoD 2 if you were working with someone.
You'd have to be working with hopeless if anyone.
If both LS and meat are scum the third could practically be anyone. Which is why I didn't want to go after meat. Didn't want to be where we are now.
Breshke. If he's scum he plays super town. Though why he was stuck on hopeless then suddenly so willing to change to meat when both hopeless and bats were his two top scum reads concerns me. And that's not good -_- But then he was quick to change his vote back to hopeless...and bats could have changed his vote back and been fine. So I dunnae. I really don't get why the shenanigans happened at all, to be perfectly honest with you.
Oats. Was gonna come after him real hard if he kept up on you because that seemed like willful blindness. He seems okay though.
Hope and Meat seem like the obvious scum...really hating meat's posting.
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Both of you, I agree with Hopeless.
And Oats I'm glad you finally see I'm not scum.
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After last night's madness, as can probably tell, I didn't take it very well. I started imagining all sorts of scenarios where each was scum.
Regardless, I'm sure on you as well. Always have been. Even after trying to picture a scum Rasputin, the puzzle didn't fit.
Breshke questioned me first thing last night, that who was the second scum that voted Bats, saying he wasn't sure that Hopeless' partner couldn't have bussed him with the votes so close. That got me thinking "OMG what if it was Rasputin" and then my mind was scrambling everywhere. But if you were scum, you had multiple chances to take to lylo much sooner than this.
Prior to waking up, it appeared Oats had been taking my posts out of context. I feel like I was going to be framed on weak arguments. I'm just glad he re-read D2.
Meat had voted so early on Hopeless. I'm trying to come to a sensible argument why he'd do this if they are both scum.
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The assumption that hopeless is gone?
I mean, hopeless is. If he's not scum we're losing tomorrow lol. Dude, if he's not scum, he's an idiot town for pulling this crap anyway. Shenanigans to save himself. He said himself he knew it was going to be today or tomorrow. If you're town, and it's inevitable, don't go all slimy and trick people into voting someone else.
Eh, hating meat's posts. Obvious scum. That's why I don't like it. Get uneasy feelings when things are too obvious. And yeah, I thought you were going to be framed, too.
That's another reason I'm not sure about meat. If someone wants to frame you, HTS, they want to do it most likely cause meat will definitely jump on the train. Doesn't make sense otherwise. And if that's the case meat probably isn't scum, just bad at playing town.
My conclusion is we need better town players in general lol. >> That and I should be less biased against meta arguments but whatevs.
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I am also trying to think why LS would scumlist Meat all game if both were scum. It's possible but then he obviously sheeped voting the entire game. Was Meat ever really in danger D1 and D2? Was LS doing that a backup plan for cred?
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It's possible? ... Am I allowed to cuss on this site cause if I'm not I've been breaking rules right and left lol -_- Okay, ahem, he'd had it out for meat for awhile. Brand new to scum. Bad at hiding himself, but others could have made suggestions to him to keep riding meat. It's possible. I don't think he would have done it without guidance from someone else though.
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Day 1 or 2...no, no I don't think meat was in danger either time. And on Day 3 there was such an overwhelming meat push that scum would be dumb not to ride the wave...maybe.
I think how I'd play if I were scum and I wouldn't want to give up a player that early if I had other options. Frankly, I was surprised they weren't pushing me, with how many people had me on their scum lists night 2 lol.
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On December 06 2014 18:35 rsoultin wrote:
It's possible? ... Am I allowed to cuss on this site cause if I'm not I've been breaking rules right and left lol -_- Okay, ahem, he'd had it out for meat for awhile. Brand new to scum. Bad at hiding himself, but others could have made suggestions to him to keep riding meat. It's possible. I don't think he would have done it without guidance from someone else though.
Scum could have had a coach in theory. There were 4 volunteers this game. So there's that.
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I actually meant other scum but that's valid too. (We may get zapped by the mod god for even bringing it up.)
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Bats and Sicklucker told us N2 not to sleep on Breshke before Damdred died. I wonder why?
The roleblocker caveat?
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Yeah. Scum can claimed being blocked, so long as they didn't block a townie who can contradict them.
I took it with a grain of salt, but he acts very townie with the probing questions and caution. Which is why him jumping on the shenanigans was weird to me. I'd expect it from others but not him.
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Breshke I am (we are?) curious, why did you partake in the shenanigans? Did I miss something?
And yea town have been a load of errors this game. I'm no exception although Bats gets the WTF award from me.
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I'm going to head out for now, but at some point today will pop back in. Have a good night!
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Okay, wild and crazy weird, don't immediately kick me...
But what about LS, Oats, Breshke...is there any way that makes any sense?
Bussing for the cred and LS' days are numbered. (Initially fine w/ meat)
Oats starting to set up a possible frame job on you cause meat likes you for scum.
Breshke has been pretty adamant on votes at beginning of Day 3 being unimportant, and meat still likely scum...but votes on Day 3 were what tipped me off something was nuts.
Breshke was oddly defensive about SL bringing up him as an unlikely possibility. First a joke about his average, then more seriously commenting we'd have to think he was with meat. Possibly encouraging us to lynch meat first if we got suspicious?
Then shenanigans today...
Seems farfetched lol. Shenanigans -_- Still don't like them, and it's beginning to become a don't like them on principle sort of deal.
Eh, I'll just virtually beat hopeless if he was an afk, slimy townie.  Don't really think the speculation is gonna get us far, cause yeah...I can come up with a scenario for almost anyone. Paranoia is not a plus.
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Yeah, going to sleep myself. Night HTS.
Just as interested in the shenanigans question @ Breshke.
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Blazinghand
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Day 5
rsoultin the VT has been shot!
This day ends in 48 hours at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Whoever has the most votes on them at that time gets lynched.
Countdown:
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FFS....alright.
GG Rasputin. Dammit.
Mr. Lylo, it is not a pleasure to see you tonight.
Again, Breshke, we wanted to know, well now I want to know, why you partook in the shenanigans last night.
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And whilst I'm at it, may as well in the meantime,
##vote Hopeless1der
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Well, that's all folks. GLHF, even you irritating scummies 
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Breshke, second of two questions for you, any thoughts on the N4 posts, particularly any views on Oats and Meat?
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