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On November 22 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 22:27 The_Templar wrote:On November 22 2014 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2014 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On November 22 2014 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like this is literally what happened:
rayn: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes?
Templar: I don't know Rayn, it was 4am
rayn: Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question.
Templar: Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly.
How can you possibly argue you are not lying in either the first response or in the second one? Yes, I made up a stupid response because you said something stupid. I told you I didn't know and you weren't satisfied with it, so I pleased your huge ego and confidence in people to remember everything they do. So yes, you lied. You lied in a place no townie should lie. Therefore you are mafia. Would you rather argue for 4 hours, which would "prove" I'm mafia anyway? Because I really didn't remember and I was never going to convince you of that. Lying was forced
But you didn't even know if i am town or mafia. In fact you promised to do a reread on my posts yet you have done nothing towards that.
Why would you need to convince me you are telling the truth if i am mafia? Of course i am gonna call you shit if i am mafia and you are town, regardless of what you say. You already treated me as town when you claimed you don't know what to think, if i am town or mafia!!!
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Like seriously, can't you people see it?
Templar thinks i might be mafia. Yet he has to lie to me to convince me of something because otherwise it's impossible.
If he is town he definitely does not have to lie. Just because i might be mafia and just throwing shit on him -> then he can convince the OTHER people to LYNCH me!! But no, instead he treats me as town (although he doesn't know if i am town or not?!?!?!?) and makes up shit for whatthefuck ever reason.
wow much townie very smartie
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On November 21 2014 07:44 The_Templar wrote:
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AFAIK Rayn always plays like this so I am still reading him as null. He is probably the only person I will check through a previous game of, preferably one of his games as mafia so I can see any differences.
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It's the post where you stated 10 null reads (which one of them is a dude you have your vote on...)
You also state you're gonna do some digging on me which you never followed up on.
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On November 22 2014 22:41 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like seriously, can't you people see it?
Templar thinks i might be mafia. Yet he has to lie to me to convince me of something because otherwise it's impossible. Do you really think I was trying to convince you? If I wanted to, I would have argued for four hours instead.
I don't buy this shit because it doesn't make any sense from town perspective.
Someone shoot this dude. He is just fucking around with nothing real to say.
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On November 22 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though...
Right. You didn't.
If you don't wanna actually find mafia (as you hadn't found any, except for VE lol) you sure didn't.
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Like instead of actually trying to find mafia here's what you did on D1:
- First vote for your null read over your scumread
- Then you did shit on me because you thought it was funny
- Then you voted for VE, yes, but you never did anything to convince anyone to follow you
- Then you voted for another null-read over another null-read (which you considered as lynch candidates) who was pushed by your top town read while stating before that you consider yourself a bad player (which would make more sense in -> if you have to pick between two null-reads you sheep your town read who ACTUALLY is a good player, not to mention his target is pushing the null read you end up lynching)..... 
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On November 22 2014 22:54 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though... Right. You didn't. If you don't wanna actually find mafia (as you hadn't found any, except for VE lol) you sure didn't. Exactly what was I going to find? Some amazing, never before seen trend in your posting that immediately outed you as a mafia in this game?
So you don't believe you are gonna find anything yet before you claimed you're gonna look at my past games because it helps you figure out my alignment?
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On November 22 2014 22:57 The_Templar wrote:Which I made very clear was a pressure vote.
The point of the game is not to pressure people.
It's to lynch mafia.
You had a scumread you didn't vote.
FUCKING SIMPLE!!
+ Show Spoiler +- Then you did shit on me because you thought it was funny Not seeing this, sorry.
We JUST talked about this.
You lied without any other reason than to troll me or what the fuck ever.
YOU SAID SO!!! rofl
Show nested quote +- Then you voted for VE, yes, but you never did anything to convince anyone to follow you I made a pretty thorough case on him and maintained my opinion. How does everyone ignoring me make me mafia?
gosh. I find it impossible to believe you think this is how the game of mafia is played.
Like if noone listens to you you just sit around and cry in the corner because "boohoo my posts are not being read"?!?!?
For the record you stated, IN YOUR FIRST POST, "i am terrible" which translates directly into "don't listen to me".
Literally, it does. So what do you expect? You tell people not to listen to you then you blame them for not listening to you? haha.
Show nested quote +- Then you voted for another null-read over another null-read (which you considered as lynch candidates) who was pushed by your top town read while stating before that you consider yourself a bad player (which would make more sense in -> if you have to pick between two null-reads you sheep your town read who ACTUALLY is a good player, not to mention his target is pushing the null read you end up lynching)..... I didn't sheep my town read because I didn't agree with him. I don't see why that's a huge issue.
If you are town you have to admit there is a possibility someone else is right and you are wrong. Because you cannot be right every time otherwise you are the best mafia player of all times. Which you claimed you aren't. So in case you have to decide who to vote on between two null-reads you have two possibilities:
1) Trust your top town read who you think is a good scumhunter and generally a good player, very experienced
2) Trust the (1)'s lynchtarget and vote with him
Regardless of what the cases were (not to even mention there was no case on Killer other than "lurk") i would assume you, as town, ESPECIALLY when you consider yourself as a bad player, to pick (1), just because IT MAKES SENSE and (2) DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!
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Templar:
If you are town go find mafia and tell who is mafia. I don't want to hear about VE because nothing you have said does not make him mafia. Find something else. And don't say things like "inconsistent" or "lying" unless you explain why doing those things make someone mafia.
You are not going to convince me that you are not mafia by arguing about this. If you are town you can convince me you are not mafia by SCUMHUNTING.You have not been scumhunting. Interact with people, convince people someone is scum. I can be talked to like a normal human being, if you talk about something that's actually relevant to the game!!! It is a fact you haven't scumhunted, it's proven by the fact you had 10 null reads at some point and didn't do anything to find out their alignments on D1.
So start playing the game ok? I'll let go of you and i will not stop you doing what you do, if you just DO something!
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On November 22 2014 23:13 The_Templar wrote:Didn't realize I'd be lynching mafia halfway into the day. Show nested quote +gosh. I find it impossible to believe you think this is how the game of mafia is played.
Like if noone listens to you you just sit around and cry in the corner because "boohoo my posts are not being read"?!?!?
For the record you stated, IN YOUR FIRST POST, "i am terrible" which translates directly into "don't listen to me".
Literally, it does. So what do you expect? You tell people not to listen to you then you blame them for not listening to you? haha. What planet do you live on where this is an absolute? I intended people to consider my reads before blindly agreeing/disagreeing with me, I am not going to say "ignore me" in my opening post. Show nested quote +If you are town you have to admit there is a possibility someone else is right and you are wrong. Because you cannot be right every time otherwise you are the best mafia player of all times. Which you claimed you aren't. So in case you have to decide who to vote on between two null-reads you have two possibilities:
1) Trust your top town read who you think is a good scumhunter and generally a good player, very experienced
2) Trust the (1)'s lynchtarget and vote with him
Why do I have to agree with either of them? I lynched based on MY OWN OPINION.
Last post then i am off for a while because htis is not going anywhere:
1) we are lynching mafia every single point of the game.
2) saying "i am terrible" does really directly translate into "i don't even trust myself so others should not aswell". it really does. if not in your head in others head it does. and it's a really scummy thing to say because as town you would like others to VALUE your opinion because you are part of the group that's trying to find and kill mafia!
3) maybe you did. well in fact certainly you did as if you are town you are not lying and if you're mafia you sure did aswell. my point is i think you are lying about your motives for your vote because i think as town you would have sheeped Holyflare instead. Just because it would make way more sense -- based on how you view yourself as a player, how you view him as a player, and what your reads were on the targets and HF -- than what you actually did.
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On November 22 2014 23:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh my god Rayn I can't believe you can't see VE's posts through a mafia perspective.
Like, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV.
You are not going to convince me of VE being mafia here. Just because i have played a shitton with VE recently and while i have not seen his mafia play for a while i know how he plays as town and this is exactly like it.
What are your reads on Damdred, Templar, Hopeless and Slam?
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On November 22 2014 23:32 GlowingBear wrote:
I read damdred as town and hopeless as leaning scum.
why?
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On November 23 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 00:23 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:
The vigi will probably shoot him Why won't the vig shoot me? I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so.
yeah and this makes no sense given i think templar is mafia and you seem to think that aswell, at least to some extent.
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Slam are you saying people should think you are town because you lead a lynch (which you didn't -- not to mention, on a townie).....????
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On November 23 2014 01:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 01:42 Alakaslam wrote:On November 23 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:On November 22 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:Two strongest town on strongest wagon; Hence with my return I ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iFfQHku.png) you sheeped your 2 strongest town reads without even reading the game On November 22 2014 06:30 Alakaslam wrote:On November 22 2014 06:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Slam do you have scumreads or just townreads? Neither really just vet sheeping I play horribly openly. you openly vet sheeped which is cool even though you didn't have your own reads then you ditched everything to lynch lurkers because you had no better alternative once I started to draw people off of templar and then completely ignored the hopeless lynch to lynch someone who was just afk and nothing more and hadn't even commented on any of the hopeless stuff at all you just said "i don't see it" even though there is nothing not to see because my case explains everything that he's done that is scummy and there is no "i don't see it" because it IS scummy I just said it, but for tl:dr reasons I will specifically state the answer to this part. That is because you three phuxed up and Deffo have a scum amongst you but since you all h8 each other I can't figure out who. So I have to trust none of you. Absolutely just no wtf is this. You say why am I arguing with VE when he is doing scummy things. You say I shouldn't question rayn when he's doing scummy things and dismissing everything valid but then you say we should all make up but theres definitely 1 scum between us!?!?!??!?!?! wtf wtf wtf THEN you say that I FUCKED UP?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Show nested quote +Well you are right, RVEHF. BUT IT IS BECAUSE YOU THREE BEHAVED SO BADLY THAT UOU DID NOT DESERVE IT AND CONFUSED EVERYONE AND I HAD TO DO SKMETHING I made THE BEST case in the game to lynch someone scummy that absolutely nobody followed for no reason at all and nobody sheeped it. Don't tell me I fucked up and confused people when I was the only one trying to drive the lynch into a direction that wasn't on our veteran.
lolol this is so good!
I love you HF. <3
Although i disagree with one thing. I made the best case on d1.
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On November 23 2014 02:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 23 2014 01:53 Holyflare wrote:On November 23 2014 01:42 Alakaslam wrote:On November 23 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:On November 22 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:Two strongest town on strongest wagon; Hence with my return I you sheeped your 2 strongest town reads without even reading the game On November 22 2014 06:30 Alakaslam wrote:On November 22 2014 06:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Slam do you have scumreads or just townreads? Neither really just vet sheeping I play horribly openly. you openly vet sheeped which is cool even though you didn't have your own reads then you ditched everything to lynch lurkers because you had no better alternative once I started to draw people off of templar and then completely ignored the hopeless lynch to lynch someone who was just afk and nothing more and hadn't even commented on any of the hopeless stuff at all you just said "i don't see it" even though there is nothing not to see because my case explains everything that he's done that is scummy and there is no "i don't see it" because it IS scummy I just said it, but for tl:dr reasons I will specifically state the answer to this part. That is because you three phuxed up and Deffo have a scum amongst you but since you all h8 each other I can't figure out who. So I have to trust none of you. Absolutely just no wtf is this. You say why am I arguing with VE when he is doing scummy things. You say I shouldn't question rayn when he's doing scummy things and dismissing everything valid but then you say we should all make up but theres definitely 1 scum between us!?!?!??!?!?! wtf wtf wtf THEN you say that I FUCKED UP?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Well you are right, RVEHF. BUT IT IS BECAUSE YOU THREE BEHAVED SO BADLY THAT UOU DID NOT DESERVE IT AND CONFUSED EVERYONE AND I HAD TO DO SKMETHING I made THE BEST case in the game to lynch someone scummy that absolutely nobody followed for no reason at all and nobody sheeped it. Don't tell me I fucked up and confused people when I was the only one trying to drive the lynch into a direction that wasn't on our veteran. lolol this is so good! I love you HF. <3 Although i disagree with one thing. I made the best case on d1. Now kiss. Can we start organising reads instead of scream at one another? We still have a lot of bad people. FF, sick licker are two examples here in case you haven't noticed me and hf have been doing that for a long time.
How about you? Ohyou just disorganized.
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HF did you read the exchange between me and templar a while ago?
Please comment on it when you think it's time to.
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On November 23 2014 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
yeh I didn't like it all because he maintained that he didn't lie about anything and then said he was forced to lie
And then he said it was something else and then i lost what he was saying at all...
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Why didn't you vote with me gb? I brought up the same points on templar on d1...,
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I mean the same points you agree on now.
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