Holyflare, it makes perfect sense fot hopeless and templar to be mafia. I actually think it's quite possible because they started the train on killersos when they were both quite viably to get lynched. I believe there has to be at least 1 scum in them and if it was only one, why would the mafia there not sheep me\you onto the other? You, like i, know 100% sure we are not both mafia so the scumdude in them COULD, and probably would sheep me ot you, just because it is what we would want. Get what i am saying?

My problem however becomes next. Let's say we are both right and they are both mafia (which is really likely). The other people on killer were (based on last official votecount) gb and slam. Both of which are scummy as fuck. All scum voted for same target on d1? No fucking hell. Where are we wrong?

Could SL be scum? Damdred? And which one of gb\slam is town? Or both?

raynpelikoneet

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November 22 2014 11:59 GMT

#1265

Oh nvm you just posted. Yes i also forgot chezinu.
Could yoy now please look into templar? I am really fucking sure he is mafia!!!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:04 GMT

#1269

On November 22 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
why is hopeless being mafia really likely now..!??!

Because i read the pages i missed while sleeping in detail and yourcase makes sense.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:07 GMT

#1271

On November 22 2014 21:00 Holyflare wrote:
i just don't get the same feeling on templar rayn i dunno what to say, he didn't vote for a town read at all and he only posted null reads because I asked him to post about everyone

I don't blame him for having null reads. I blame him for having null reads and not a fucking thing about it. He just isn't scumhunting.

I also asked him why he did something and he gave a bullshit reason first, aka lied. It doesn't make any sense to do so as town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:15 GMT

#1275

On November 21 2014 02:41 The_Templar wrote:

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I don't know Rayn, it was 4am

On November 21 2014 02:44 The_Templar wrote:

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Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly.

This exchange.
This is a straight out lie.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:16 GMT

#1276

Like, not only does he lie, but he also CONFIRMS HE DOESN'T EVEN REALLY THINK VE IS MAFIA WHICH IS WHAT I ACCUSED HIM OF IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

fuck, do i have to type out every obvious thing so people can see it?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:19 GMT

#1277

On November 22 2014 21:12 Hopeless1der wrote:

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Rayn am I stupid for thinking HF bringing up killers role is scmum?

idk.
why don't you ask Holyflare what difference does it make instead of yelling HOW DID YOU KNOW HE WAS BLUE?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:24 GMT

#1279

On November 22 2014 21:22 Hopeless1der wrote:

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He is using a flipped blue to further bury me. It's feels similar to what he said about VE using QTs to call me scum and that he's just burying me with inconsequential shit.

That's not what he is doing here.
He is calling you out because YOU tried to bury him for not being on a wagon that's confirmed town and calling him "shit at the EOD". Which is an unreasonable argument. What he did was pointing out your terrible logic.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:27 GMT

#1281

Because Holyflare did not fuck up. In fact even if you are town he didn't fuck up because he failed to lead a lynch on you, so in your mind he definitely did not fuck up. If you put yourself into anyone's else perspective you cannot even make the argument because of how stupid it does sound.

How did you expect him to react when his scumread calls him an idiot for fucking up when all the scummy people have just lynched our veteran? lol...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:28 GMT

#1283

On November 22 2014 21:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
So Killer was a bad lynch? Afk into excuses into ptomises into afk? Really?

Not a bad lynch but in ANYONE'S mind it should not have been the best lynch either.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:33 GMT

#1285

Like the KillerSOS lynch happened like this:
Everyone who voted for him consolidated on him from something. Every time this happens (not consolidating on a case that's actually been pushed by someone) the lynch is going to be town. And mafia motivated. And there is scum.

There is absolutely 0% chance all ppl on KSOS are town.
At least 2 mafia is like 80% chance.
3 mafia is like 30% chance.
4 mafia, nah.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:36 GMT

#1286

And based only on the votes and how the voting happened you Hopeless, and Templar both look like shit.
You read me town, yet you didn't sheep me (regardless of your read on Templar).
Templar read Holyflare as town (he was his #1 townread!!!!) yet he didn't sheep HF onto you.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 12:37 GMT

#1288

..unless you're both scum.

like now, you are pointing out stuff that's really fucking scummy on Templar.
You cannot have missed it before because when HF asked you instantly pointed that out.
But still you townread him. herpderp.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 13:03 GMT

#1289

On November 22 2014 21:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Pretty much out of range now. Later.

How convenient....

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 13:12 GMT

#1292

On November 22 2014 22:10 The_Templar wrote:

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I most certainly did not.

You most certainly did. You even proved it yourself.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 13:15 GMT

#1293

Like this is literally what happened:

rayn: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes?
Templar: I don't know Rayn, it was 4am
rayn: Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question.
Templar: Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly.

How can you possibly argue you are not lying in either the first response or in the second one?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 13:25 GMT

#1296

But i thought you thought you are a bad player and therefore the best play for you is to sheep your top townread (Holyflare) instead of voting a null read?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

November 22 2014 13:26 GMT

#1297

On November 22 2014 22:25 The_Templar wrote:

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Yes, I made up a stupid response because you said something stupid. I told you I didn't know and you weren't satisfied with it, so I pleased your huge ego and confidence in people to remember everything they do.

So yes, you lied.
You lied in a place no townie should lie.
Therefore you are mafia.