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Holyflare, it makes perfect sense fot hopeless and templar to be mafia. I actually think it's quite possible because they started the train on killersos when they were both quite viably to get lynched. I believe there has to be at least 1 scum in them and if it was only one, why would the mafia there not sheep me\you onto the other? You, like i, know 100% sure we are not both mafia so the scumdude in them COULD, and probably would sheep me ot you, just because it is what we would want. Get what i am saying?
My problem however becomes next. Let's say we are both right and they are both mafia (which is really likely). The other people on killer were (based on last official votecount) gb and slam. Both of which are scummy as fuck. All scum voted for same target on d1? No fucking hell. Where are we wrong?
Could SL be scum? Damdred? And which one of gb\slam is town? Or both?
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Oh nvm you just posted. Yes i also forgot chezinu. Could yoy now please look into templar? I am really fucking sure he is mafia!!!
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On November 22 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote: why is hopeless being mafia really likely now..!??! Because i read the pages i missed while sleeping in detail and yourcase makes sense.
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On November 22 2014 21:00 Holyflare wrote: i just don't get the same feeling on templar rayn i dunno what to say, he didn't vote for a town read at all and he only posted null reads because I asked him to post about everyone I don't blame him for having null reads. I blame him for having null reads and not a fucking thing about it. He just isn't scumhunting.
I also asked him why he did something and he gave a bullshit reason first, aka lied. It doesn't make any sense to do so as town.
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On November 21 2014 02:41 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 The_Templar wrote: Rayn, I said that I didn't understand the thread at first and it only made any sense if I read it backwards. I have lots of excuses for being a bad player because, surprise, I am a bad player. We can't all be as good as you are.
I linked that post because I wrote for a long time and I expected more activity Also this: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes? Like VE just claims town everywhere and your case becomes really bad? I don't know Rayn, it was 4am
On November 21 2014 02:44 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:41 The_Templar wrote:On November 21 2014 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 The_Templar wrote: Rayn, I said that I didn't understand the thread at first and it only made any sense if I read it backwards. I have lots of excuses for being a bad player because, surprise, I am a bad player. We can't all be as good as you are.
I linked that post because I wrote for a long time and I expected more activity Also this: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes? Like VE just claims town everywhere and your case becomes really bad? I don't know Rayn, it was 4am Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question. thrawn is the only one who can use the "idk" excuse and he has 2/3 strikes already. Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly. This exchange. This is a straight out lie.
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Like, not only does he lie, but he also CONFIRMS HE DOESN'T EVEN REALLY THINK VE IS MAFIA WHICH IS WHAT I ACCUSED HIM OF IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
fuck, do i have to type out every obvious thing so people can see it?
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On November 22 2014 21:12 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:On November 22 2014 20:54 Hopeless1der wrote: "Didn't want to lynch our blue role"
WHAT THE FUCK HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WAS BLUE?
My "best" information is flawed because you're pushing a towny and have a reputation for leading scum lynches Day 1.
I returned to thread, commented that I was back, made a vote count and wondered why no one was around.
Going to work now, out of cell range soon. p.s. VE is my top scum. because he flipped blue it's not flawed if you are town at all, people defaulted to a lurker lynch instead of a case that in any other game would be instantly sheeped Rayn am I stupid for thinking HF bringing up killers role is scmum? idk. why don't you ask Holyflare what difference does it make instead of yelling HOW DID YOU KNOW HE WAS BLUE?
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On November 22 2014 21:22 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2014 21:12 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:On November 22 2014 20:54 Hopeless1der wrote: "Didn't want to lynch our blue role"
WHAT THE FUCK HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WAS BLUE?
My "best" information is flawed because you're pushing a towny and have a reputation for leading scum lynches Day 1.
I returned to thread, commented that I was back, made a vote count and wondered why no one was around.
Going to work now, out of cell range soon. p.s. VE is my top scum. because he flipped blue it's not flawed if you are town at all, people defaulted to a lurker lynch instead of a case that in any other game would be instantly sheeped Rayn am I stupid for thinking HF bringing up killers role is scmum? idk. why don't you ask Holyflare what difference does it make instead of yelling HOW DID YOU KNOW HE WAS BLUE? He is using a flipped blue to further bury me. It's feels similar to what he said about VE using QTs to call me scum and that he's just burying me with inconsequential shit. That's not what he is doing here. He is calling you out because YOU tried to bury him for not being on a wagon that's confirmed town and calling him "shit at the EOD". Which is an unreasonable argument. What he did was pointing out your terrible logic.
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Because Holyflare did not fuck up. In fact even if you are town he didn't fuck up because he failed to lead a lynch on you, so in your mind he definitely did not fuck up. If you put yourself into anyone's else perspective you cannot even make the argument because of how stupid it does sound.
How did you expect him to react when his scumread calls him an idiot for fucking up when all the scummy people have just lynched our veteran? lol...
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On November 22 2014 21:26 Hopeless1der wrote: So Killer was a bad lynch? Afk into excuses into ptomises into afk? Really? Not a bad lynch but in ANYONE'S mind it should not have been the best lynch either.
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Like the KillerSOS lynch happened like this: Everyone who voted for him consolidated on him from something. Every time this happens (not consolidating on a case that's actually been pushed by someone) the lynch is going to be town. And mafia motivated. And there is scum.
There is absolutely 0% chance all ppl on KSOS are town. At least 2 mafia is like 80% chance. 3 mafia is like 30% chance. 4 mafia, nah.
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And based only on the votes and how the voting happened you Hopeless, and Templar both look like shit. You read me town, yet you didn't sheep me (regardless of your read on Templar). Templar read Holyflare as town (he was his #1 townread!!!!) yet he didn't sheep HF onto you.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!
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..unless you're both scum.
like now, you are pointing out stuff that's really fucking scummy on Templar. You cannot have missed it before because when HF asked you instantly pointed that out. But still you townread him. herpderp.
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On November 22 2014 21:36 Hopeless1der wrote: Pretty much out of range now. Later. How convenient....
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On November 22 2014 22:10 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 20:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: + the fact that he straight out lied to me after just calling ve mafia for lying... I most certainly did not. You most certainly did. You even proved it yourself.
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Like this is literally what happened:
rayn: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes? Templar: I don't know Rayn, it was 4am rayn: Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question. Templar: Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly.
How can you possibly argue you are not lying in either the first response or in the second one?
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But i thought you thought you are a bad player and therefore the best play for you is to sheep your top townread (Holyflare) instead of voting a null read?
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On November 22 2014 22:25 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like this is literally what happened:
rayn: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes? Templar: I don't know Rayn, it was 4am rayn: Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question. Templar: Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly.
How can you possibly argue you are not lying in either the first response or in the second one? Yes, I made up a stupid response because you said something stupid. I told you I didn't know and you weren't satisfied with it, so I pleased your huge ego and confidence in people to remember everything they do. So yes, you lied. You lied in a place no townie should lie. Therefore you are mafia.
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I am not gonna argue with you about anything because i don't need to convince you you are mafia. I just showed out other people why you are mafia.
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