"Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today."

@GB

Elaborate on how your scum read on temp evolved to a town read on him

liancourt

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November 23 2014 23:27 GMT

#1694

On November 24 2014 08:07 ritoky wrote:
@lian can you explain the chez mafia read? cuz i str8 up don't even know what that guy is doing.

i would put him in null but felt obligated to fill that 4 man scum cell

and he really hasn't done jack shit at all and if he thinks he can coast through playing god awful then fuck it I can read him as scum

liancourt

1563 Posts

November 23 2014 23:37 GMT

#1703

On November 24 2014 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:

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Ok.

Motives I have scumread Templar
1) He is too passive, he is not really pushing the game forward
2) He says he hates meta reads but posts a meta read and says it was on purpose (lol?)
3) He wasn't hesitating to town read me (or at least to be suspicious of me) when he knows I'm capable of look townie when I'm scum.
4) He is parroting some people at some times (parroted me on VE, parroted damdred on sick lucker)

Motives I am now townreading Templar:

1) He is putting effort in the game (he has one of the biggest filters, he is interacting and giving reads)
2) He is taking genuine stances (he parroted people, yes, but he posted reads trying to push town to a different direction when he felt someone is scum)
3) I'm an easy lynch for mafia. He is not trying to lynch me. Period.

This is a pros and cons list. I didnt ask for this.

I want you to tell me your thought process on how your read EVOLVED from when temp posted his case on SL and when you voted him scum because of it and what you were thinking when you were "pushing" him. Also on what you were thinking when you wanted validation on your being town by asking temp reasons on why you were town. And then your final thoughts upon making that list post calling temp town.

liancourt

1563 Posts

November 24 2014 00:00 GMT

#1716

On November 24 2014 08:47 GlowingBear wrote:

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My read on him evolved while I started pressuring him. The question about me being town was important because if he said I was scum, it means he was keeping his options open. He read me as null, which is not good but it's not a scumread. Then I started thinking about these town traits he has.

What I'm saying with that pros and cons is that I started reevaluating those traits

you know you're re evaluating him for the same reasons as you saw him as scum

and mafia can just as well say someone is town/null so easily and you take that action as him being townie

and he made a "bait" case on SL which is like saying "guys this isn't a real case I just wanted to see if someone would take the bait, don't berate me for having bad logic". WTF is this? And now he has no scum reads. HIjole~

I just can't understand how you can call him scum and then revert back.

It's like you wanted to prove to town that you could call him scum, but was afraid that it might get traction. And later when temp flips scum you can say you read him scum at one point.

liancourt

1563 Posts

November 24 2014 00:24 GMT

#1728

@temp

was your SL case bait?

You said you don't like meta reads and yet you did a case based on one.

And you make a "sarcastic" post saying gb found the flaw in your case. WTF is this all about?

Personally, I don't trust meta reads done by other people, but I trust my own meta reads on people I've played with before. I don't trust your meta read on SL. Unless other people can back up your meta read on SL i'm not taking that case into consideration.

liancourt

1563 Posts

November 24 2014 00:30 GMT

#1729

liancourt

1563 Posts

November 24 2014 00:36 GMT

#1732

Ok i wanna know what VE, damd and slam think about temp.

liancourt

1563 Posts

November 24 2014 01:21 GMT

#1741

I like this post the most, and it's why I don't like meta-reads. People do change ideas, methods of playing, and the players they are playing against (and their opinions of them), sort of every game. I prefer to stay only inside the thread, so I'm ok with most of the reads on me so far. (Although I have a pretty obvious style of play as both mafia and town that I refuse to/can't change).
While this isn't particularly relevant, it's how I am viewing the game which is probably important if Rayn fails to lynch me today.

so temp ur saying this post was bait for the case on SL????

liancourt

1563 Posts

November 24 2014 01:31 GMT

#1745