EPTOn November 23 2014 06:44 The_Templar wrote:
I scumread Damdred and explained why, and now he's telling me why he's not scum. I don't really see a problem with this.
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On November 23 2014 06:41 liancourt wrote:
What are you getting out of this as town?
Are you calling him scum? Are you calling him town?
You're berating him for calling you town...like wtf are you doing? This is absolutely unproductive and you're shitting out posts which look like crtical thinking to the untrained eye, but my god there is absolutely no content. You're arguing for the sake of arguing with damdred because it isn't hurting you. It makes it look like you're active and posting shit but it's so unproductive you are boring me to death.
On November 23 2014 06:32 The_Templar wrote:
Bolded: I was likely to be lynched when you made those comments so it was relevant.
It "hinges on quotes" because you haven't provided any specific examples of me doing what you say I'm doing. You're saying things without any proof.
On November 23 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
HF for most of d1 (I still love you HF) was extremely lazy and played like he was going to the dentist to get a root canal. I disagreed with some statements on you and you jumped on me instead of people who did the exact same thing... Your sentence about the mafia coming in afterwards makes no sense, if you had been lynched and I did that your example would make sense but since you did not it really doesn't as I get no such credit from you being alive?
I did explain reasoning you disagreed with my reasoning and somehow feel like it hinges on quotes? It won't change the reasoning behind the townread at that point, i felt like the train of thought,activity, defense etc was towny. Sure i'll humor you and spam quotes next time but it won't change the end result.
On November 23 2014 06:22 The_Templar wrote:
I went after you and not HF because you didn't do anything at that point in the game besides say "Oh, Templar could be town". HF changing his mind on me was also more important than you mentioning it because he actually made an effort to get people to unvote me, which sounds a lot less like a mafia trying to come in afterwards, saying "See, I told you he was town".
You do not need to continually post that I am town, but instead give examples and say why. You can say it one time for all I care, if you explain what your reasoning is (with quotes!).
Last paragraph: Fair enough, but I would prefer you giving your thoughts on the answers to your own questions more often than you currently are. Since day 2 begins on a sunday, I expect you to be contributing a fair amount more than you did in day 1
On November 23 2014 06:14 Damdred wrote:
I didn't just say Hey this guy is town and go about my day though, I said he looks better after reading his filter.Disagreed with rayn that you hadn't done anything up to that point when it was clear that you had been doing things and at that point HF said basically the same thing I did but you jumped on me instead of HF. Im not sure why its important that when a town read of mine isn't being lynched i need o continually post that they are town. I think ritoky is town does that mean when i'm posting cases or trying to i need to get that in? That whole part makes no sense you defend your town reads when its necessary otherwise you look for scum i'm not sure what you mean on that part.
Agreed I wasn't terribly active was a rough week at work, I have reads but I generally hate lists posts and try not to make town cases overall I tried it and just don't like it.
I asked HF questions to try to figure out his alignment and he really felt like I was pulling teeth but he gave his thoughts. I agree I didn't follow up with Rayn with his read on hopeless but I did give my thoughts on hopeless answer which was his answer was pretty bad in my mind. Questions help me find alignments and find motives behind whats being said and help me build reads.
On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:
You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD.
Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either.
I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active).
On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really.
Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly.
I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking.
I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked.
Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post.
On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:
Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist.
Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then?
I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL.
On November 23 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:
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Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy.
Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case.
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Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy.
Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case.
Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist.
To move on when i clarified and what you call as i say you are playing the game isn't what it is at all. As mafia generally the train of thought is more fragmented and you can't really see how person got to point a o point b, you can somewhat see it and to me i looks like you are critically thinking about what you are doing.
Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null.
I'm no sure what it has to do that I stop talking about someone who is a town read when they aren't going to be lynched at that moment, this whole part doesn't make sense to me. I move from someone I think is own o someone who I think is pretty scummy.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though.
I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with your last part, I wanted to make a case on sl I was unable to do so and when I was able to do so I did so. Its only an EXCUSE when you can't deliver on a promise, and not sure wha tyou mean about not doing things even though i'm around.... How do you know when i'm here or when i'm not.I was here after my case but the only people in the thread were ff who was on my scum read and Hopeless there really wasn't much to do at that point.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then?
Overall i'm not exactly sure what you are doing here, it doesn't quite feel like a scum read and the conclusion feels like is missing...
I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL.
I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really.
Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly.
I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking.
I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked.
Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post.
You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD.
Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either.
I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active).
I didn't just say Hey this guy is town and go about my day though, I said he looks better after reading his filter.Disagreed with rayn that you hadn't done anything up to that point when it was clear that you had been doing things and at that point HF said basically the same thing I did but you jumped on me instead of HF. Im not sure why its important that when a town read of mine isn't being lynched i need o continually post that they are town. I think ritoky is town does that mean when i'm posting cases or trying to i need to get that in? That whole part makes no sense you defend your town reads when its necessary otherwise you look for scum i'm not sure what you mean on that part.
Agreed I wasn't terribly active was a rough week at work, I have reads but I generally hate lists posts and try not to make town cases overall I tried it and just don't like it.
I asked HF questions to try to figure out his alignment and he really felt like I was pulling teeth but he gave his thoughts. I agree I didn't follow up with Rayn with his read on hopeless but I did give my thoughts on hopeless answer which was his answer was pretty bad in my mind. Questions help me find alignments and find motives behind whats being said and help me build reads.
I went after you and not HF because you didn't do anything at that point in the game besides say "Oh, Templar could be town". HF changing his mind on me was also more important than you mentioning it because he actually made an effort to get people to unvote me, which sounds a lot less like a mafia trying to come in afterwards, saying "See, I told you he was town".
You do not need to continually post that I am town, but instead give examples and say why. You can say it one time for all I care, if you explain what your reasoning is (with quotes!).
Last paragraph: Fair enough, but I would prefer you giving your thoughts on the answers to your own questions more often than you currently are. Since day 2 begins on a sunday, I expect you to be contributing a fair amount more than you did in day 1
HF for most of d1 (I still love you HF) was extremely lazy and played like he was going to the dentist to get a root canal. I disagreed with some statements on you and you jumped on me instead of people who did the exact same thing... Your sentence about the mafia coming in afterwards makes no sense, if you had been lynched and I did that your example would make sense but since you did not it really doesn't as I get no such credit from you being alive?
I did explain reasoning you disagreed with my reasoning and somehow feel like it hinges on quotes? It won't change the reasoning behind the townread at that point, i felt like the train of thought,activity, defense etc was towny. Sure i'll humor you and spam quotes next time but it won't change the end result.
Bolded: I was likely to be lynched when you made those comments so it was relevant.
It "hinges on quotes" because you haven't provided any specific examples of me doing what you say I'm doing. You're saying things without any proof.
What are you getting out of this as town?
Are you calling him scum? Are you calling him town?
You're berating him for calling you town...like wtf are you doing? This is absolutely unproductive and you're shitting out posts which look like crtical thinking to the untrained eye, but my god there is absolutely no content. You're arguing for the sake of arguing with damdred because it isn't hurting you. It makes it look like you're active and posting shit but it's so unproductive you are boring me to death.
I scumread Damdred and explained why, and now he's telling me why he's not scum. I don't really see a problem with this.
and yet u lynched killer LOL
very good work
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