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On November 21 2014 03:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
absolutely riveting VE. anything new with your reads?
Rayns posting makes him look town to me. I think I agree with his townread of lian, but mainly because in the last game he was scum and was much more amicable with town...in a pacifying kind of way. Very unlike what he's doing in this game. I don't like necessarily what he's doing in the thread (just trying to make everyone angry) but like rayn I think he's probably town.
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On November 21 2014 03:22 sicklucker wrote:
So heres what ches filter has. A very well drawn picture, and him qouteing people ssaying "OMGOSH IS THAT ME IN THE PICTURE"
Theres also a random vote before that but I think it was pregame troll
Why do you think it was pregame troll? He linked Hopeless' filter, that speaks of "not troll" to me.
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On November 21 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:41 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason. The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB It doesn't matter. VE accused you of being mafia and Holyflare didn't let you answer. Holyflare speaks loudly for "do not answer questions directed to other people" which is basically the same thing this is. I don't give a fuck how bad VE's argument was or how easy it would be for you to answer him as town/mafia. I give a fuck about the fact that Holyflare made it impossible for you to fuck up in case you are scum. That's why it's not townie. This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened VE posted the QT thingy. Your post is the following!It is how it happened. The qt thing was scummy because it was wrong so hopeless' response is irrelevant and was bolstering on top of ve's already wrong exaggerated accusations. I don't care about a players response when someone is pushing a scummy agenda to get that response. But you don't think VE is scum? Not particularly anymore because he stuck to his terrible case and plan and still believed it to be working and true which IS pretty typical ve. The rest of the argument was just me trying to clear the air in the off chance ve is a retarded vigi who shoots me.
Oh I'm shooting you.
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On November 21 2014 05:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 05:32 sicklucker wrote:
Random ok heres who I like.
Rayn- Like his reads doing his usual aggressive townshit the fact he was the first one to call ve town I liked verymuch
FF- He accepted peace after a rocky game thats very towny to me
ve- Insanely confident I have a hard time believing he goes that hard on nothing if hes mafia.
ritoky - My top town I think Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee.
Who I dont like
Lian- Pretty self explanatory+ I already said why
templar - Said a few posts back
Holyflare - Over defensive not willing to commit to a scum read
Rest are null
pretty sure 2 of your scum reads are wrong
You should know at least one is wrong. Assuming you're one of them, then which is the other wrong one in ur opinion?
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Chezinu following the Chezinu Rule is pretty townie Chezinu imo. Anyone disagree? Like yeah, he could do it as both alignments...but if you assume he's mafia then what do you think that means about Hopeless? And why does he unvote Hopeless only to vote sicklucker if he's mafia?
Anyone disagree with my line of thinking here? Like, if Chez is mafia then the assumption is that Hopeless is town (based on Chez voting for him), so Chez voting for sicklucker (also presumably town for Chez vote) doesn't make much sense if he's mafia. It doesn't really make sense from any perspective other than Hopeless/Chez mafia, which if that's the case then why does he vote for him in the first place?
For the moment I'm going to go ahead and say that I'll never lynch Chezinu today.
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On November 21 2014 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu following the Chezinu Rule is pretty townie Chezinu imo. ???? He kinda isn't following that.
The point is Chez thinks he is. It's not the "Kenpachi" rule where someone has to CLAIM town and that means they're mafia or whatever, from my understanding Chez's understanding of the Chezinu rule is anyone who surreptitiously casts suspicion on Chezinu OR tries to lynch Chezinu. Basically anyone trying to make others suspicious of Chezinu falls into the category of the Chezinu Rule, at least how I interpret it. And sicklucker seems to be doing that by attempting to discredit others' townread of Chezinu.
Or at least, I assume that's what Chezinu is thinking.
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Rayn all I was saying is that I think Chez is town, and that the only scenario that makes sense to me if Chez is mafia is if Hopeless is mafia with him and he moved his vote off his scumbuddy. But the kink in that thinking is why does Chez draw attention to Hopeless in the first place if they're both mafia, so that doesn't really make sense either. It's just an expanded townread of Chezinu basically.
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On November 21 2014 09:55 Holyflare wrote:
lian stop what you are doing or I will just straight up lynch you, tell me what you honestly think has happened in this game and what your reads are without using paint or sarcasm or bs posts to antagonise people further. You've literally made the thread unreadable at this point
But don't you think lian is town? Why would you lynch lian if you think he's town? Weren't you his scumbuddy in the last game?
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omg STOP GB. "VE is maf because of this. WELLLLLLLLL now that I've filtered him that's not true, but he's maf for THIS I guess"
You were wrong the first time, and you're still wrong. I'm town. The reason I didn't react to your analysis is because it's wrong and I'm not getting lynched today. If I start getting lynched maybe I'll respond to said analysis.
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On November 21 2014 18:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn all I was saying is that I think Chez is town, and that the only scenario that makes sense to me if Chez is mafia is if Hopeless is mafia with him and he moved his vote off his scumbuddy. But the kink in that thinking is why does Chez draw attention to Hopeless in the first place if they're both mafia, so that doesn't really make sense either. It's just an expanded townread of Chezinu basically. Also, this read is weird because the last time you posted anything about hopeless iirc he WAS your scum read. So the world where they could be scum together should be very real, especially as chez is MOVING his vote onto sicklucker away from the person you think is mafia which COULD indicate that they are mafia together. Why do you have huge leaps of knowledge that just seem really farfetched??
Why is this read weird? I've given specific reasoning for thinking Chezinu is town, and I've given specific reasoning for thinking he's not mafia. I don't care how real the world where Chez and Hopeless are both maf COULD be because based on Chez voting him in the FIRST place (like I said) I find it really unlikely that they're partners. Maybe I'm wrong and bad, but that's my opinion based on what's in the thread.
What's weird about that Holyflare? Go on, explain it.
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On November 21 2014 23:44 GlowingBear wrote:
I was wrong about you not taking solid stances, but that's all.
Your stream of thought fits much more a mafia mindset than a town mindset
No it doesn't, because I'm town. You're being ridiculous. Some more.
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On November 21 2014 23:14 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 22:58 Holyflare wrote:
this game just isn't very fun and i don't know why Because no one is trying. Vote VE with me. If VE was town, he would flip the fuck out when I posted my analysis on his post. Or he would try to reason it better. Instead, he just avoid giving traction to that call out because he knows I've nailed him and he didn't want to draw attention. VE has no confidence in this game. He is just throwing random questions and not taking hard stances
Bolded is incorrect. I flip out when people who I think can get me lynched make posts that are good about me. Now when people who CAN'T get me lynched make BAD posts about me. So no, I wouldn't flip out.
You haven't "nailed" me. Everything you post about me is wrong. Try harder sir.
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You are literally saying that I'm mafia without reading the damn game. If you're town, then you should be fucking ashamed of yourself GB. Literally ashamed.
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I'm not attacking the player. I'm saying that you're calling me mafia without reading the game. I don't give a shit how good or bad you are, there's no way you can have that read on me without reading the game. So I give literally zero weight to anything you post about me because you've said multiple times that you're not reading the game.
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Like I've been a part of every MAJOR interaction in the game. You call me mafia when you are giving reads without reading the fucking game. I've been giving reads and giving reasoning for my reads all game. ALL game. My INTRO into the game was me giving my opinion about someone. There is literallly zero reason to think I'm mafia, if you only read the game.
Instead you say you're too busy multiple times to properly read the game. If you're too busy to do that, then why are you not too busy to come in here and argue with me about whether I'm attacking you personally or not? About whether I'm attacking your "points" or not. I thought you didn't have time for this game man? If you have time to argue with me, you have time to read the god damn thread GB.
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You do that. This game is a fucking joke anyway.
Like I don't think you can do it and I'm going to instead lynch scum. But I'd LOVE it if you actually do get me lynched because I get the feeling this one is already circling the drain.
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Because I don't think town is ever going to lynch you HF.
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On November 22 2014 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
you've done nothing to say why i'm mafia at all and have stuck to that useless read for the entire game for no reason despite me explaining everything perfectly adequately
That's the problem. You're "explaining it adequately" HF you're not telling the truth. You're "expaining" everything, not giving the truth. imo
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On November 20 2014 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get Fecal's little "trap" and that's just whatever. I have no defense to that. But Holyflare is saying that me being sure of my reads at this point in the game is scum indicative, and that's just absolutely false. I'm ALWAYS sure of my reads early on, because A) I feel like I have strong early reads and B) I represent strong early reads as both alignments. The reason I do this is because as town when you represent strong reads, it puts your targets under pressure. I put Hopeless under so much pressure that he overreacted, which rito commented on and I think HF mentioned himself. As mafia I do it because that's what I do as town so I have to look like I'm town.
Holyflare knows this, and he knows it doesn't make me mafia. That's the confusing thing to me - he's calling me mafia here based on this alone, when I AGREE WITH HIS ONLY OTHER MAFIA READ.
Here's my prediction. Holyflare is going to convince everyone else to lynch Hopeless and he's going to flip mafia and then Holyflare is going to lead town to a loss. Just like every other game that Holyflare is mafia. But remember this:
I'm voting for no one but Holyflare for the rest of this cycle.
This is why I'm voting for Holyflare.
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