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On November 21 2014 06:47 sicklucker wrote:
Like rayn im only level 1 reading you if that makes anysense. I have no reason to make it complex . If game one you play lke town and your confirmed. Then game two you come out and play the same way Isint it logical for me yo think your town?
No it's perfectly logical. For most of the people.
In this game however you don't really have reasons for thinking i am town other than meta.
Which you can't possibly have.
Because i CAN play well as mafia. I won't, but i CAN. And you can't know it, unless there is proof.
And you do not have the proof.
So therefore i think your read is shit. You are not basing your read on something i have done, you are basing it on something you are familiar with (past games) which you cannot know is a real reason as you have only one side to look at.
It's fishy.
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No my main reason was you were the only one to town read ve. Hes super town but many people scumed him
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but still you saId something else?!?!?!?
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On November 21 2014 05:32 sicklucker wrote:
Random ok heres who I like.
Rayn- Like his reads doing his usual aggressive townshit the fact he was the first one to call ve town I liked verymuch
FF- He accepted peace after a rocky game thats very towny to me
ve- Insanely confident I have a hard time believing he goes that hard on nothing if hes mafia.
ritoky - My top town I think Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee.
Who I dont like
Lian- Pretty self explanatory+ I already said why
templar - Said a few posts back
Holyflare - Over defensive not willing to commit to a scum read
Rest are null
Nope I said it in my post. Either way your picking on the wrong small things right now lets get on track.
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On November 21 2014 04:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kinda like rayn's posts on templar. Can anyone tell me how many games templar has played? If not I'll just check the database.
I'll admit I skimmed over a few of the essays people posted but from what I can tell VE is cool, rayn is cool, HF is ok, cheeze disappeared after realizing his art is inferior to mine so meh/null. Lian is lame but probably just lame town like others have said. Does slam have any meta regarding activity? It seems he has excuses for now but I wish he would post more.
I kinda want to policy lynch licksucker but that's based on an active game so it can wait.
no hard scumreads atm but people I will be looking at:
sicklucker
templar
hopeless
slam
cheeze sandwich
and the lurkers
and yes I am caught up
I played a TL+ game, Twitterverse Mini, Mission Mini, and 4 hour mafia. The TL+ one is not listed. I can try to describe it if you'd like.
On November 21 2014 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
Ok im on bored the templar scum train. Not rushing through the thread this time. Saying your bad in the second line of your first post and you didnt read it properly. I dont expect this from a 30k post guy. I expect him to have played a few games before can anyone tell me the meta here?. He never commits to his reads which is what id expect mafia to do. Also gives a end of post excuse to ignore the game and not read it in "the right direction"
30k posts is completely irrelevant. I am still not a good mafia player and I admit it.
I would like you to admit you made up that bolded part, because I said I didn't have time for everyone else at that time.
On November 21 2014 04:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
Okay I'll accept your olive branch but less blue hunting and random percentages that don't help, please.
Who is this directed at?
On November 21 2014 05:32 sicklucker wrote:
Random ok heres who I like.
Rayn- Like his reads doing his usual aggressive townshit the fact he was the first one to call ve town I liked verymuch
FF- He accepted peace after a rocky game thats very towny to me
ve- Insanely confident I have a hard time believing he goes that hard on nothing if hes mafia.
ritoky - My top town I think Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee.
Who I dont like
Lian- Pretty self explanatory+ I already said why
templar - Said a few posts back
Holyflare - Over defensive not willing to commit to a scum read
Rest are null
I find these to be very bad reads.
AFAIK Rayn always plays like this so I am still reading him as null. He is probably the only person I will check through a previous game of, preferably one of his games as mafia so I can see any differences.
FF: Don't base your reads on other games.
VE: No comment but I disagree.
ritoky: He's trying to keep the peace? Since when is peace helpful? Those vig shot threats were surely meant to create chaos?
Lian: No comment
Holyflare: I interpreted this as 6 scum reads. He's being defensive... because he's being accused. Big surprise there.
On November 21 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
Towny looking
7. VisceraEyes
6. raynpelikoneet
14. Alakaslam
8. Fecalfeast
4. liancourt
Could be towny
13. ritoky (maybe up a tier)
11. Chezinu (undecided whether up or down so middle but townyISH)
meh
2. The_Templar
3. KillerSOS
5. Hopeless1der
9. sicklucker
10. GlowingBear
12. Damdred
4 mafia is quite large heh.. you don't have a single scumread?  "how can you miss an obvious scum in templar?" that would be a quite exact quote from FFL2.
What?
On November 21 2014 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 06:16 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2014 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:
I'd have to look but I said aggressive style which a titanic game we played fits the bill rayn.
You always have a meh read on me on d1 hf but i shitposted in that game and tried to "protect" marv/HF as long as i could. i didn't post anything, i just posted a shitton and almost all of the people read me as town and then some fucking dumb vigi (who also read me as town but "didn't like me") shot me. so no, there is nothing like this game. in Titanic IV i posted absolutely 0 analysis on anything. Yes I would agree with you overall but you were still reasonably aggressive, which is what SL is townreading you on being aggressive. I think its null from you and not worth town reading you on content is your key I think but i found mafia. everyone remember this post and lynch (shoot) damdred when i lynch templar and he flips scum.
Too bad that's not happening.
Reading through GB's filter right now.
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On November 21 2014 04:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kinda like rayn's posts on templar. Can anyone tell me how many games templar has played? If not I'll just check the database.
I'll admit I skimmed over a few of the essays people posted but from what I can tell VE is cool, rayn is cool, HF is ok, cheeze disappeared after realizing his art is inferior to mine so meh/null. Lian is lame but probably just lame town like others have said. Does slam have any meta regarding activity? It seems he has excuses for now but I wish he would post more.
I kinda want to policy lynch licksucker but that's based on an active game so it can wait.
no hard scumreads atm but people I will be looking at:
sicklucker
templar
hopeless
slam
cheeze sandwich
and the lurkers
and yes I am caught up
You should go back and re-read VE/Rayn/HF considering they all seem to find huge flaws in each others' arguments from the very beginning.
Why do you want to policy lynch sicklucker?
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Is there a votecount anywhere?
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On November 21 2014 02:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Hi Rayn
I love you
Who is scum?
How common is sheeping Rayn? I haven't actually seen many of his games.
On November 21 2014 02:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok so we are discussing obs qt posts?
Because that's not very accurate instrument to catch mafia. Opinions change from game to game. The solidest proof of what I'm saying was damdreds case on me on Hearthstone. He read me scum for having different opinion from the one I had on FFL 2 mafia, and I was town in both.
Bring me something solid and constant, and thread-only. Reads differ from obs to thread because there is a difference on pressure.
I like this post the most, and it's why I don't like meta-reads. People do change ideas, methods of playing, and the players they are playing against (and their opinions of them), sort of every game. I prefer to stay only inside the thread, so I'm ok with most of the reads on me so far. (Although I have a pretty obvious style of play as both mafia and town that I refuse to/can't change).
While this isn't particularly relevant, it's how I am viewing the game which is probably important if Rayn fails to lynch me today.
On November 21 2014 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu following the Chezinu Rule is pretty townie Chezinu imo. Anyone disagree? Like yeah, he could do it as both alignments...but if you assume he's mafia then what do you think that means about Hopeless? And why does he unvote Hopeless only to vote sicklucker if he's mafia?
Anyone disagree with my line of thinking here? Like, if Chez is mafia then the assumption is that Hopeless is town (based on Chez voting for him), so Chez voting for sicklucker (also presumably town for Chez vote) doesn't make much sense if he's mafia. It doesn't really make sense from any perspective other than Hopeless/Chez mafia, which if that's the case then why does he vote for him in the first place?
For the moment I'm going to go ahead and say that I'll never lynch Chezinu today. 1st Paragraph) it's easier for mafia to follow a rule (or policy) than actually putting thought on the game. Following rules seems to be more scummy than townie to me. I can't understand your insistence in calling Chezinu town. I also don't understand why you say that Chezinu is probably town and then assumes it's a null tell right after and justifies calling him town using associative reads. Are you calling him town for using a rule or because you're doing associative reads? These are two different sources of read. Unvoting hopeless to vote sicklucker is a null tell. 2nd) Unflipped association. Lol. I prefer to think this way: "can this be done by a mafia? Is it more likely, less likely or equally likely to do as mafia?" And my answer is Yes and Equally likely. 3rd) For the moment or you're never going to lynch Chezinu? VE, you simply repeated your idea on both first and second paragraph. Your writing style doesn't look fluid, but fabricated, full of hesitation ("does anyone agree?" " for the moment I'll say I'll never lynch him) Meh, I found this post horrible.
Not much to say other than I completely agree with this post. I like how Rayn completely disagreed, and then read it again and suddenly agreed. What the hell did he misread in order to change his opinion that much?
On November 21 2014 06:19 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i misread something.
That post from VE is a big pile of ???????????????????????????????????????
VE, wtf? LOL NO.
Explain this post
(this is the equivalent of getting being a 6 year old getting called to the principal's office)
On November 21 2014 06:24 GlowingBear wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Us9aAH8.png)
I don't understand this picture.
And no there is no vote count.
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don't like:
lian - claimed mafia, being an unproductive dick. play the game or die. some people said "him being a dick means he is town"; i think that is garbage, i have been a giant dick before as mafia and so have many others. he is clearly reading the thread and refusing to provide content, can't get much worse than that d1. OH WAIT, he claimed mafia with his first post.
hopeless - shit reactions to pressure, overly defensive, made one post recently that was okay; but i don't let go of things very easily, so his shitty reaction sticks with me
fecalfeast - you my friend, were the first person to suggest lynching lurkers! congratulations, welcome to the only policy i have. the person who first suggests lynching lurkers is mafia 86% of the time.
don't understand:
chezinu - why is anyone town reading this guy? like people are hard defending him...and i don't even understand how they got a leaning town on him to begin with.
sicklucker - don't really understand your read on me in the slightest, i spent the early game fighting with VE; i don't feel like a propagator of peace
damdred - weak reads by his standards, fairly passive by his standards, has very narrow focus. not really sure what the hell he is doing right now.
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On November 21 2014 08:05 ritoky wrote:
don't like:
lian - claimed mafia, being an unproductive dick. play the game or die. some people said "him being a dick means he is town"; i think that is garbage, i have been a giant dick before as mafia and so have many others. he is clearly reading the thread and refusing to provide content, can't get much worse than that d1. OH WAIT, he claimed mafia with his first post.
hopeless - shit reactions to pressure, overly defensive, made one post recently that was okay; but i don't let go of things very easily, so his shitty reaction sticks with me
fecalfeast - you my friend, were the first person to suggest lynching lurkers! congratulations, welcome to the only policy i have. the person who first suggests lynching lurkers is mafia 86% of the time.
don't understand:
chezinu - why is anyone town reading this guy? like people are hard defending him...and i don't even understand how they got a leaning town on him to begin with.
sicklucker - don't really understand your read on me in the slightest, i spent the early game fighting with VE; i don't feel like a propagator of peace
damdred - weak reads by his standards, fairly passive by his standards, has very narrow focus. not really sure what the hell he is doing right now.
I'm going to look into the bolded ones first, probably followed by sicklucker.
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Templur, it's a red rain.
I thought it was self explanatory
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I'm just going to throw it out there that I didn't say we should lynch the lurkers, I said I wanted to look at them. Which means I want them to post.
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On November 21 2014 08:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm just going to throw it out there that I didn't say we should lynch the lurkers, I said I wanted to look at them. Which means I want them to post.
why are you so concerned about a policy read?
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So concerned as to comment on you misreading my post.
Reel me in boys, you got me.
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Liancourt
On November 20 2014 18:20 liancourt wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8NBC8aU.png)
Sick opening post
Figure out how many of the next 6 posts is claiming mafia. Hint: more than 5.
On November 20 2014 18:24 liancourt wrote:
##vote holyflare
just cos i can
On November 20 2014 18:31 liancourt wrote:
i'm bussing u HF :D
to get that sweet town cred :D
On November 20 2014 18:35 liancourt wrote:
no such thing as reasoning on day 1
u go with the chupazi lol
On November 20 2014 18:41 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:39 Holyflare wrote:
lian do something productive please no. i aint reading through past shit. never helped me in the past and no one listened to me anyway so fuck it lol i'm tunneling u for sweet town cred
On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:really wtf is with the votes
On November 20 2014 18:52 liancourt wrote:
stop voting for bloody mafai i'm telling you to bus HF like we had that chat in the quicktopic goddamn it.
Hey look, a decent post!
On November 20 2014 18:56 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 16:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 16:01 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:56 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 15:53 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:52 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 15:50 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:49 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 15:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote:
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claims town -> hey guys this is my mafia meta -> does exactly what he says his mafia meta is.
you can believe your read all you want, but seems more like you just waiting to take a shot at one of the early posters trying to get a cheap "gotcha" moment. whether that's from a town mindset or a mafia mindset at this point i am unsure, but i think as of now it leans more scummy to me. certainly more than anything anyone else has posted. you shouldn't bring up last game cuz then i will have to dig up your reads and we will see how little we should believe this read of yours. This is LITERALLY what you just did to me. I didn't "gotcha" anything about Hopeless, he did some things, and I explained why I thought they made him mafia. I didn't "catch" him doing anything. You're the one who is saying I'm mafia for doing this, and YOU are doing this. What does that make you ritoky? and i think your description of how you formulated a read on hopeless is the exact same process as to how i formed a read on you. doesn't really matter now though, i am less skeptical of you just making crap up after hopeless overreacted. Why do you say I overreacted? On November 20 2014 15:33 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well there's a vote for you and a link to your filter. That's case enough for me, for reasons I provided. If you WANT to, I GUESS you could answer MY points.
What value is there in "deciphering" chez's snowflake or figuring out what the blue thing is on Chez' first picture? I wanted to know what the painting was in the first one, and then wondered wtf the snowflake was about. On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Is that going to help you get a read on Chez? Not really. On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think it's more likely that you just wanted to appear contributory. You even throw in a "we" there talking about the special snowflake, implying that you're a part of town. "Implying?" What the fuck is this VE, you have no grounds to call me scum and yet already you're turning confirmation bias bullshit. bolded part is a massive overreaction to someone calling you scum for a shaky reason at best 1 hour in. to me overreactions imply a person has something to hide. He took an already shaky premise and twisted the word "we" into a scumread. That is fucking ludicrous and I will not stand for it. then advance the game in a more positive direction rather than just sitting there whining about it and being defensive? that falls in the OMGUS VE category. But you don't think I'm mafia Hopeless, and if you do that PROVES you're mafia. Because you're a good player and you know that this is how I play as town. As mafia I'm totally different, I lurk hard, and I come in with big posts and then play defense. That's my style, and that's how I win. OR lose. what kind of logic is that lol i think ur mafia, so i must be mafia too lmao
...well it's actually trying to make a point. I approve of this post because it points out how recklessly confident VE is, to the point of being ridiculous. Saying, "I always play like this as town, so you shouldn't think I'm mafia" is basically claiming town. It's also WIFOM, if I correctly understand the definition of this. So, liancourt is perfectly reasonable to ridicule this post.
Continuing wall of 0-content posts:
On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6nl9cSB.png?2) really wtf is with the votes Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad? stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions? There is no reason to vote hope the votes are bad same thing LOL What was the point of your question mafia? i change my vote templar is mafai
NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS
On November 20 2014 19:02 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah this has been pretty productive.
In summary:
I think Hopeless is mafia based on interactions/reaction.
I think Holyflare is mafia based on him defending Hopeless at a weird time (right after he reacts poorly to my pressure) for a weird reason (apparently feigning contribution to appear contributory is NOT scummy?), and under weird circumstances (he agrees that the reaction to his only other scumread is scummy). On top of everything else, he just keeps trying to discredit everything I do and say as senseless when I've been very clear about everything I've done this game.
I think Chez is town because he drew a very cool picture of me. Also he pointed out Hopeless and I agreed with him.
Rayn will explain his thoughts and then I'll give my read on rayn.
I have no idea what lian is doing. But he's voting for HF so we can be friends for now.
Templar's post is bad, but I don't think it makes him mafia. It's an awful big post and a lot of effort for mafia to go to. IF he's mafia then why does he make that post? Like, I'm not the lynch today in any world, ever. If he wants to fight me about that fine - but why does he do that as mafia?
Yes I've exaggerated a bit about how sure I am of my reads, but the reasoning is in the thread - if you disagree with it fine, just say why. Yo Mafia is bussing each other like hard ons ve hf hope templar mafia
He asked everyone "wtf are you voting hopeless" earlier. I don't think he clarified why he subtly switched to mafia.
On November 20 2014 19:08 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm going to bed, liancourt seems scummy to me. I'd unvote ve but im on my phone. fucks off and gives no reason why i'm scummy just flinging shit around = mafia
Reminds me of someone...
On November 20 2014 19:58 liancourt wrote:
u dont even know whats so scummy about me
u just dont understand why i'm doing this so u vote me lol
no wait...ur voting me because i piggy backed on someone calling u salty
stop being salty and play the game
We are only 1/3 of the way through day 1 so having this many terrible, scummy posts is actually quite impressive.
Anyway, I have a gut feeling that he might come back and start cleaning up his mess instead of spreading it across the room, but I'm likely to be keeping my vote on him until he either does so or dies.
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On November 21 2014 08:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Templur, it's a red rain.
I thought it was self explanatory
Oh. I thought blood for some reason >.>
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On November 21 2014 08:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm just going to throw it out there that I didn't say we should lynch the lurkers, I said I wanted to look at them. Which means I want them to post.
I liked that part of the post
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Oh I didn't see your question templar. I want(ed) to lynch licksucker because of things that may or may not change based on the result of the other active game. Which, again I will not talk about.
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On November 21 2014 08:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh I didn't see your question templar. I want(ed) to lynch licksucker because of things that may or may not change based on the result of the other active game. Which, again I will not talk about.
Right, sorry.
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