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Like who the fuck -- as town -- writes "This dude is mafia but BTW I AM A TERRIBLE PLAYER!!!" It's like begging to not be listened.
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On November 21 2014 01:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 00:19 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 20 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wwhy the fuck would being absolute be scummy? i must be mafia in every game then.... are you dense or some shit? read the thread No u. I know exactly what ve has said and there is nothing scummy in it. So either you are twisting the facts which makes you mafia, or maybe you should read the thread... Or maybe you just went insane. Idk yet. But we should still kill templar. I'll explain when i get off work and then you can all sheep me and i can be confirmed town. On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE is town. Slam is town. We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.
ritoky i am the king of vague statements. If I am saying that VE's logic doesn't actually make someone mafia etc etc and he's saying it does and I'm mafia for not seeing that and here you are defending ve's logic saying there's nothing scummy with it (thereby nothing wrong with it at all) how come you aren't scum reading hopeless at all!? either you: 1) Agree with ve and then you would be scum reading hopeless (you already said you don't think what ve did was scummy) or 2) you disagree with ve saying that hopeless is scummy and therefore agree with ME if the answer is number 2 then your post means nothing and is actually discrediting me for no reason because you aren't reading the thread, if your answer is number 1 then there's something wrong with your mindset because you don't scum read hopeless in your read post and you are probably mafia That is not the point Holyflare. My point is you called out VE's logic before you gave Hopeless a chance to defend himself (or overreact/scumtell whatever if he is mafia) against VE. At the time you at least must assume there is a chance that VE is town and Hopeless is mafia. Unless you had a really strong townread on Hopeless (which you didn't) you do not shut down cases on him, regardless of how good/bad the case is. It is just retarded (just like answering to questions asked from other people -- you know what i am talking about) and i don't really get why did you do that in the first place because i KNOW you think what i just said is a fact. That's why i called you weird. Now you seem to be having a scumread on Hopeless. Cool. Now why the hell are you fixated in VE??? You called his actions scummy but you do not think it makes him mafia. Fuck, let it go then if it does not make him mafia. What's the point???? You know VE, he "doesn't negotiate with terrorists" and i can't understand what are you possibly trying to achieve treating like you do -- from town perspective. It just doesn't make sense because he'll shut down towards you and you will at each other and if you are both town then fuck this game because it's gonna be ruined. That's my 2c on you, and if possible i'd like you to explain your actions i was talking about. Give me the town motivation because i do not see it. Also yes, i think Hopeless is quite possibly scum for his latest posts. When he got back to the thread i got the same impression you posted. I don't/didn't think VE had a good case. In fact i kinda liked how Hopeless answered the case. Oh yeah that's the third thing. Why was Hopeless' response to the case bad (that's why you think he is scum, right)? This is most assuredly NOT what happened and means you have read nothing of the interaction. VE's scum read on me is that i said his logic was bad WHILE saying hopeless' reaction was scummy. I can call out more than one person even if they are calling out each other because a) bussing is a major thing that's happening each game and b) my read on hopeless was weak and ve's push looked scummy I am not sure you understand what i was talking about in the part you colored red. I was talking about the fact that VE made a case on Hopeless. You called the case bad before Hopeless answered it. right?
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Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason.
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On November 21 2014 02:17 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 01:54 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 00:19 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 20 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wwhy the fuck would being absolute be scummy? i must be mafia in every game then.... are you dense or some shit? read the thread No u. I know exactly what ve has said and there is nothing scummy in it. So either you are twisting the facts which makes you mafia, or maybe you should read the thread... Or maybe you just went insane. Idk yet. But we should still kill templar. I'll explain when i get off work and then you can all sheep me and i can be confirmed town. On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE is town. Slam is town. We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.
ritoky i am the king of vague statements. If I am saying that VE's logic doesn't actually make someone mafia etc etc and he's saying it does and I'm mafia for not seeing that and here you are defending ve's logic saying there's nothing scummy with it (thereby nothing wrong with it at all) how come you aren't scum reading hopeless at all!? either you: 1) Agree with ve and then you would be scum reading hopeless (you already said you don't think what ve did was scummy) or 2) you disagree with ve saying that hopeless is scummy and therefore agree with ME if the answer is number 2 then your post means nothing and is actually discrediting me for no reason because you aren't reading the thread, if your answer is number 1 then there's something wrong with your mindset because you don't scum read hopeless in your read post and you are probably mafia That is not the point Holyflare. My point is you called out VE's logic before you gave Hopeless a chance to defend himself (or overreact/scumtell whatever if he is mafia) against VE. At the time you at least must assume there is a chance that VE is town and Hopeless is mafia. Unless you had a really strong townread on Hopeless (which you didn't) you do not shut down cases on him, regardless of how good/bad the case is. It is just retarded (just like answering to questions asked from other people -- you know what i am talking about) and i don't really get why did you do that in the first place because i KNOW you think what i just said is a fact. That's why i called you weird. Now you seem to be having a scumread on Hopeless. Cool. Now why the hell are you fixated in VE??? You called his actions scummy but you do not think it makes him mafia. Fuck, let it go then if it does not make him mafia. What's the point???? You know VE, he "doesn't negotiate with terrorists" and i can't understand what are you possibly trying to achieve treating like you do -- from town perspective. It just doesn't make sense because he'll shut down towards you and you will at each other and if you are both town then fuck this game because it's gonna be ruined. That's my 2c on you, and if possible i'd like you to explain your actions i was talking about. Give me the town motivation because i do not see it. Also yes, i think Hopeless is quite possibly scum for his latest posts. When he got back to the thread i got the same impression you posted. I don't/didn't think VE had a good case. In fact i kinda liked how Hopeless answered the case. Oh yeah that's the third thing. Why was Hopeless' response to the case bad (that's why you think he is scum, right)? This is most assuredly NOT what happened and means you have read nothing of the interaction. VE's scum read on me is that i said his logic was bad WHILE saying hopeless' reaction was scummy. I can call out more than one person even if they are calling out each other because a) bussing is a major thing that's happening each game and b) my read on hopeless was weak and ve's push looked scummy I am not sure you understand what i was talking about in the part you colored red. I was talking about the fact that VE made a case on Hopeless. You called the case bad before Hopeless answered it. right? HF's read on me is based entirely on my answering VE's case. wtf rayn. Also, your timeline picture is wrong on templar. He literally links the post "this post is based on". Its the one directly before his own. Well then it's even worse. I didn't even click the link because why would you need to say "hey this is the last post i saw when i started writing my post"?!?!?
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Also the fact that Templar's vote is on liancourt (who is almost definitely town) and him asking Holyflare if he reads him scum or not doesn't really help him.
So Hopeless, when you read Templar's post do you get the feeling he actually thinks VE is mafia?
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On November 21 2014 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason. The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB It doesn't matter. VE accused you of being mafia and Holyflare didn't let you answer. Holyflare speaks loudly for "do not answer questions directed to other people" which is basically the same thing this is.
I don't give a fuck how bad VE's argument was or how easy it would be for you to answer him as town/mafia. I give a fuck about the fact that Holyflare made it impossible for you to fuck up in case you are scum.
That's why it's not townie.
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On November 21 2014 02:23 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote: HOpeless rayn has posed his case will ou please answer me now? Templar isnt deadset on scumreading VE, he's just pointing out a bunch of things that show VE to be inconsistent. He's not really pushing an agenda, and I agree with basically everything he posted. Scum dont make that kind of post, they either call VE scum or pressure or do something. Templar just drops it at the end like he couldnt care less. Every single thing you pointed out here is a scumtell. You just labeled them as town. Good job.
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On November 21 2014 02:29 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:23 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote: HOpeless rayn has posed his case will ou please answer me now? Templar isnt deadset on scumreading VE, he's just pointing out a bunch of things that show VE to be inconsistent. He's not really pushing an agenda, and I agree with basically everything he posted. Scum dont make that kind of post, they either call VE scum or pressure or do something. Templar just drops it at the end like he couldnt care less. Incorrect. The bolded is a thing most scum do. They don't wanna call anyone scum. They wanna "contribute" without pissing off anyone.
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So templar did you or did you not think VE is mafia when you made your post?
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On November 21 2014 02:25 The_Templar wrote: Rayn, I said that I didn't understand the thread at first and it only made any sense if I read it backwards. I have lots of excuses for being a bad player because, surprise, I am a bad player. We can't all be as good as you are.
I linked that post because I wrote for a long time and I expected more activity Also this: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes? Like VE just claims town everywhere and your case becomes really bad?
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Also also why are you voting for a townie? Over a dude you have a case on?
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On November 21 2014 02:38 GlowingBear wrote: Hi Rayn I love you Who is scum? Templar. idk about Holyflare and Hopeless.
VE, Slam and probably Chezinu are town. everyone else are just background noise.
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oh yeah liancourt is town aswell but his posts are terrible so don't bother reading what he writes.
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On November 21 2014 02:41 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 The_Templar wrote: Rayn, I said that I didn't understand the thread at first and it only made any sense if I read it backwards. I have lots of excuses for being a bad player because, surprise, I am a bad player. We can't all be as good as you are.
I linked that post because I wrote for a long time and I expected more activity Also this: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes? Like VE just claims town everywhere and your case becomes really bad? I don't know Rayn, it was 4am Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question. thrawn is the only one who can use the "idk" excuse and he has 2/3 strikes already.
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On November 21 2014 02:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason. The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB It doesn't matter. VE accused you of being mafia and Holyflare didn't let you answer. Holyflare speaks loudly for "do not answer questions directed to other people" which is basically the same thing this is. I don't give a fuck how bad VE's argument was or how easy it would be for you to answer him as town/mafia. I give a fuck about the fact that Holyflare made it impossible for you to fuck up in case you are scum. That's why it's not townie. This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened VE posted the QT thingy. Your post is the following!
It is how it happened.
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On November 20 2014 16:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Post 100 in this quicktopic proves that Hopeless CAN NOT think I'm mafia here for thinking he's mafia because he's seen me play this game THIS WAY RECENTLY. It's true that the circumstances are a little different, I had replaced into that game and there was a lot of stuff to draw from in the thread - the salient point though is that I found a mafia for what may SEEM to be shaky reasoning IMMEDIATELY and pushed on it hard against one of the louder voices in the thread. IMMEDIATELY. He knows this is how I play as town, and now he would have you believe that he thinks I'm mafia. Don't believe his lies. YOUR POST IS THE NEXT ONE IN THE THREAD YOU CAN'T SAY THIS IS NOT HOW IT HAPPENED!!!
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On November 21 2014 02:44 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:41 The_Templar wrote:On November 21 2014 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 The_Templar wrote: Rayn, I said that I didn't understand the thread at first and it only made any sense if I read it backwards. I have lots of excuses for being a bad player because, surprise, I am a bad player. We can't all be as good as you are.
I linked that post because I wrote for a long time and I expected more activity Also this: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes? Like VE just claims town everywhere and your case becomes really bad? I don't know Rayn, it was 4am Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question. thrawn is the only one who can use the "idk" excuse and he has 2/3 strikes already. Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly.
let's lynch this guy already ok?
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On November 21 2014 02:49 Hopeless1der wrote: rayn whats your read on chez based on? Not relevant unless you wanna make a case and lynch him.
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On November 21 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:41 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason. The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB It doesn't matter. VE accused you of being mafia and Holyflare didn't let you answer. Holyflare speaks loudly for "do not answer questions directed to other people" which is basically the same thing this is. I don't give a fuck how bad VE's argument was or how easy it would be for you to answer him as town/mafia. I give a fuck about the fact that Holyflare made it impossible for you to fuck up in case you are scum. That's why it's not townie. This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened VE posted the QT thingy. Your post is the following!It is how it happened. The qt thing was scummy because it was wrong so hopeless' response is irrelevant and was bolstering on top of ve's already wrong exaggerated accusations. I don't care about a players response when someone is pushing a scummy agenda to get that response. But you don't think VE is scum?
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lol Holyflare you are the king of exaggerated accusations. i don't even know what you are writing right now it's too funny.
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