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On November 25 2014 13:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Lynch Priority
Templar (6) - liancourt, VisceraEyes, Fecalfeast, Chezinu, Damdred, ritoky
sicklucker (2) - Templar, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (2) - raynpelikoneet, sicklucker
liancourt (1) - Alakaslam
Well, damdred is probably mafia. He made a case on SL but did nothing to push his scumread and, in the end, he didn't vote for him.
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It doesn't matter damdy. Game will be over soon if we can confirm medics, but I'm positive this is the scum list
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On November 27 2014 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Glowingbear is mafia because he "doesn't know who is mafia" by his own words yet he refuses to lynch the doctorclaim who couldn't tell i am confirmed town on D2. 
Rofl where am I refusing it?
I'm just sure slam is mafia and I doubt chez is the roleblocker.
Everytime you call my reads absurd, I am right and you are wrong.
I'm not calling you bad, I'm saying you're not playing this game at your level. It's a shame that you still have no idea that I'm town.
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I actually said we don't have strong reads. I didn't say we don't have a grasp of who is mafia.
And we will still have this uncertainty day4
So I would rather risk and try to lynch the roleblocker instead. Which is slam or SL (probably more likely to be SL but too risky to lynch him IMO)
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On November 27 2014 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 21:19 ritoky wrote:
@rayn and VE: what do you think of these two people who claimed roleblocks?
FF claimed roleblock n1
SL claimed roleblock n2
if both are town, then we have 5 town and game is auto, do you believe their claims? FF is never going to be mafia. There were 3 blockable roles on N1. There is pretty much no mafia team in this world that doesn't use the roleblock on N1 because of "town credit". FF was not suspected for many people (tbh pretty much the only thing that mattered was me + Holyflare because we were actually starting to agree with each other). Neither of us thought he was scum, hell we were even both pushing townies as our #1 suspect so there is no reason NOT to try roleblock a possible medic/cop (vigi was gonna shoot into town anyways - regardless of who that was, because top 2 suspects were Hopeless and Templar). I don't know about SL's claim. The fact is they were bluehunting because they shot liancourt. But idk, if they believed him to be medic why not shoot for example me? It is perfectly possible that sicklucker is indeed mafia but that is for later. I think him and GB should be taken a hard hard look into because GB is saying dumb stuff. LIKE REALLY DUMB!!! There is no other possibilities for mafia. I wanna see what scum does now, but we are definitely lynching Chezinu today.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING WHARRGABRL
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On November 27 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2014 00:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I actually said we don't have strong reads. I didn't say we don't have a grasp of who is mafia.
And we will still have this uncertainty day4
So I would rather risk and try to lynch the roleblocker instead. Which is slam or SL (probably more likely to be SL but too risky to lynch him IMO) So your solution is to coinflip in LESS time? hahahahah
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Roleblocker is killed, vigi shoots, we can afford a mislynch day4
But whatever, I'm lynching slam, chez or SL today. Whatever town decides
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On November 27 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not calling you bad, I'm saying you're not playing this game at your level. It's a shame that you still have no idea that I'm town. At least i do not call confirmed townies mafia and not refuse to lynch confirmed mafia. It doesn't fucking matter if we lynch the roleblocker or not because VE shooting scum will put us to MYLO which is basically the same thing. WE DON'T EVEN GAIN A MISLYNCH DO THE MATH FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!
YEAH LIKE I REALLY REFUSED TO LYNCH MAFIA HOPELESS AND MAFIA TEMPLAR
O WAIT!
Whatever Rayn. I'll lynch anyone from the list I've said.
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On November 27 2014 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also you have done very well in lynching mafia in this game aswell GB.
At least i can get people to do what i say....
Mafia is very grateful for that. I hope they thank you for all the mislynches.
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On November 27 2014 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2014 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:On November 27 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 27 2014 00:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I actually said we don't have strong reads. I didn't say we don't have a grasp of who is mafia.
And we will still have this uncertainty day4
So I would rather risk and try to lynch the roleblocker instead. Which is slam or SL (probably more likely to be SL but too risky to lynch him IMO) So your solution is to coinflip in LESS time? hahahahah ... Roleblocker is killed, vigi shoots, we can afford a mislynch day4 But whatever, I'm lynching slam, chez or SL today. Whatever town decides we are 5-4. lynch mafia 5-3. mafia NK + vigi = 4-2 HEY LET'S MISLYNCH IN 4-2, OK?!?!?!? kthxbye
Oh yeah, you're right here. My bad.
Ok I'll stop arguing. Let's focus.
What do you think of my list?
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On November 27 2014 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2014 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:On November 27 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 27 2014 00:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I actually said we don't have strong reads. I didn't say we don't have a grasp of who is mafia.
And we will still have this uncertainty day4
So I would rather risk and try to lynch the roleblocker instead. Which is slam or SL (probably more likely to be SL but too risky to lynch him IMO) So your solution is to coinflip in LESS time? hahahahah ... Roleblocker is killed, vigi shoots, we can afford a mislynch day4 But whatever, I'm lynching slam, chez or SL today. Whatever town decides Why don't you lynch Damdred?
He is my weakest scumread.
I had him town for the most part of the game.
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Rayn, you're biased because of my bad vote day1.
Consider how active I am, how I'm dropping opinions on the thread. Consider the way in evolving my thoughts. Consider, specially, my effort into solving the game.
Through my perspective, game is completely solved.
You only have to figure out my alignment and the rest you can do by process of elimination, as you can see on my lynch post.
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Well, you're afraid of lynching SL and I'm afraid of lynching damdred, although he is most likely to be scum. Just to be safe, we should vote the people we are agreeing with.
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On November 27 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:wow Damdred voted for Templar because "Templar voted for SL for his reasons" which is what he had been pushing all game before. hahah.. Maybe i should also read unmemorable posts. Well that's better for SL and worse for GB, except that Damdred never voted for SL... mehhhh....
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VE, you'll probably have to convince Rayn that I'm town be dude he is refusing to see it.
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On November 27 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You have to pick from me, VE, FF, and ritoky...
So go ahead and pick.
If you read my list post you'll see that I'm putting Damdred as scum, but that he is my weakest read. You don't think I should lynch my strongest to my weakest first?
Think of it this way, Rayn: why would I, as mafia, say that I'm only afraid of lynching Damdred? Why would I doubt sicklucker's claim? Why would I be so open to do that mafia list?
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BUT if I had to pick one, I would pick two: you and ritoky, and chez would be medic.
Very very very unlikable, btw...
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YOU ASKED ME TO CHOOSE ONE AND I DID IN A VERY UNLIKABLE SCENARIO.
LYNCH ME THEN AND FUCKING LOSE THE GAME. I SOUND LIKE ELVIS. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M MAFIA. LYNCH ME.
LOSE
AGAIN
BECAUSE
YOU DON'T KNOW
HOW TO TOWN READ ANYMORE
I'M DONE
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On November 26 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 22:52 ritoky wrote:On November 26 2014 22:41 GlowingBear wrote:On November 26 2014 22:37 ritoky wrote:
i healed rayn again, thought the mafia wouldn't target VE cuz he can't shoot in fear of potentially losing the game. so i was deciding between protecting confirmed town or protecting my other town read: lian (in the event the mafia went hunting for medic). ultimately i figured protecting a confirmed versus a read was the better course; turns out i was wrong. Lol you thought of protecting lian? Lololol. Anyway, what do you think of the others things I've brought to light? yes, there was literally a 1% chance VE died last night in my mind, then rayn was confirmed, and i had 1 other town read who was role bait for days. it was basically a coin toss in my head. chose wrong. as for your points, i am a little confused by you at the moment, might be because i am about to go to sleep. but you seem to be REALLY overcomplicating this. if you're town you need to find 1 town read out of the non-ritoky,VE,rayn players left and then the game is auto from there. as for my personal opinions on who the 2 other towns are i am withholding those until everyone pleads their case or at least has had a chance to. also i would like to be more awake and thinking properly. Ok, so, this is from my perspective. If I consider every claim to be legit, this would be the list. Town1) GB 2) Rayn 3) VE 4) Ritoky 5) Chez 6) FF 7) SL Scum8) Damdred 9) Slam So, of course there are two people fakeclaiming. One fakeclaiming medic and the other fakeclaiming being roleblocked. I believe more in your claim than in Chez claim. But I find bizarre that you had no reaction to it. But I still believe in yours because I can see more of a scum chez than a scum Ritoky. Between FF and SL, I believe in FF claim. It's because at day one, mafia will try to roleblock because they have to block the vigi. FF fits the lurking blue mindset. On night 2, vigi wasn't going to shoot, and medic would probably heal between Rayn and VE. So what does scum needs to do? They need to kill an improbable heal and a possible blue. Liancourt was the option (I couldn't be because I tried to take a bullet on night1). The thing here is: THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THE ROLEBLOCK ABILITY. They can FAKECLAIM being roleblocked and get town credit. I think that is what happened here. Which makes the final list like this:
Town
1) GB
2) Rayn
3) VE
4) Ritoky
5) FF
Scum
6) Chez
7) SL
8) Damdred
9) Slam
Which is most probably the final list. The only thing that I'm hesitating a little is that damdred has being pushing SL the entire game. But the rest is most likely to be scum. Slam is certainly scum and I think he should be the lynch target today. plan for night3You're mostly confirmed town, ritoky, but if we still have any doubt on who is fake claiming, there is a way to solve it. If we lynch the roleblocker, vigis shot will go through. In case there is only 1 death, someone was healed. If it was vigis target, he just need to say "my target was healed". Then you just have to say who you saved and then you are confirmed. GG anyway.
It's not that I don't want to lynch damdred. I do t want to lynch him first because of the 0,000001% probability that I'm wrong.
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Ok Rayn, I've cooled down.
It felt over explained because I revealed all my thought process. I'm always trying to look all different scenarios, so I post them to try to eliminate every impossible option.
So, was it more likely that your heal claim was legit? Yes.
Was it possible that it came from a mafia, though? Yes.
I've scumread you not for that claim, but for misinterpreting me/ pushing me without considering all my other circumstances. Specially after my entrance. That VE thing was bullshitty.
Sometimes, I have a hard time to get my message to go through. I think explained them in detail would help people understand me and my POV. Because, yes, those four on my list are certainly mafia for me, but, as I said, I consider ALL scenarios, and I can see slam in all of them. That's why I want to lynch him first.
I've never pull out the donkey town with you in the game as mafia. I know it wouldn't work again.
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On November 27 2014 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I can't believe liancourt decided I was scum because for a bit no chupazi and rayn jumps on it so everyone just defaults to scum.
Then I go nuts on pc and all gb gets from it is "Nope still scum no insight"
SERIOUSLY
we have not lynched one mafia and I am near universally scumread and you expect insight to even be noticed if it miraculously happened under such pressure?!?!?!
You take me for that cool headed of an individual?!
1) Why do you assume I'm town?
2) You can still put us in the right direction if you're town, slam. I'll be waiting for it.
Because, seriously, if chez is really the medic, then it's his fault he will lose the game.
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On November 27 2014 03:13 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 18:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, I was roleblocked N1 and used that to see if continuing the afk lurker game would get me killed since I thought they were blue reading me. Better afkfecalfeast than a real blue, right?
SL being RB'd makes him a good town for now but why did mafia think medic was between SL and Lian? I had ritoky or Chezinu as blues myself. I softed medic at some point trying to take a bullit ill bring it up no one really caught on. I think it makes more sense for ff's claim to be fake. Since it was night one mafia is definitely going to use it with more targets but at the same time they would probably gas to not help anyone be semi confirmed. That being said we can both be real. The only medic candidates left were me ritoky and lian. Lian gets killed so its a 50/50 I get blocked im not shocked. Alright gonna finish catching up and find that.
And chez. Funny how in your mind you forgot to put chez. It's like you know he isn't the medic.
Scum slip.
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