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On November 08 2014 08:19 sicklucker wrote: The only confirmed town gave us many reasons to vote him off Which confirmed town is this again? | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:21 Breshke wrote: Also superbia i just don't think you considerd my case on kush at all. It wasn't just because he was a lurker there was a distinct change in mood from pre game to during the game. No town would play like that. I'm sorry you couldn't make that connection yourself. I didn't think your case was good, pre-game is pretty OGI and doesn't have to mean anything. I'm a bit sour nobody listened, but at least we hit. Obi (Kelsier) is still the lynch for tomorrow as it stands. | ||
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On November 09 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Superbia why should people read you town? You hard defended mafia on D2, at least you could explain: 1) why did you read kush lazy town instead of mafia given kush's meta. 2) why do you actually read the people you read scum scum? For example why are sentinel and ff mafia and not "lazy town"? 1. I don't personally know kush's meta. I've half played with the guy once, but don't remember any interactions (I replaced in during d2 as scum, and conceded the same day. He was town). His behaviour reminded me of experienced players who just lost interest in the game, and I've never seen one flip scum. 2. Sentinel: I had a (cute/dumb) little play during d1 which pinged out Sentinel for me. After I pressured him his response seemed pretty terrible to me. Looked like he was trying to insert himself into a group. Doesn't help that he wrote a bit regarding someone (I believe FF) from a perspective in which they were confirmed town (i.e. probably a scumslip, town is never confident enough to assume other people are town d1), even though he had no real read on them. He had his vote on the cop at EoD1, and I don't think he ever gave a proper explanation (doesn't really matter either, because you can claim afk or whatever). Has done absolutely nothing during d2. FecalFeast: The FF I know is fine with pushing on almost everyone and I expect town-FF to be interacting with me throughout the game. This game FF has avoided me (though tbh I haven't been nearly as active as I've wanted to be), which is exactly what I expect his scum game to be (the game I was town and he was scum he was pretty afraid of me in scum QT). His d1 reads are forgetful. I remember his vote ended up on the cop, and he had some out of game reason to be afk during the very EoD (he did almost the exact same thing during the game I mentioned before, pretty sure I've never seen him afk during EoD when he's town, but admittedly, this is not strongly alignment indicative). His d2 play was basically tunneling on Kush without a good reason (imo), and I stand by my point that Kush was not really a good target. The fact that his vote didn't even end on Kush and he didn't even really help in the lynch doesn't help him at all. Obi/Kelsier: Killed the cop. Honestly, the whole "he wouldn't trade his life for the cop if he was scum" is fucking WIFOM, because we're apparently not killing him because of that fact? That's just catch-22 bullshit. I stand by my logic that Obi/Kelsier needs to be lynched during this game, unless it's over after the FF lynch (which it may very well be). | ||
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On November 09 2014 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well first of all one of your scumreads is town so why are you not trying to figure out which one? It's not like just "lynch these people and win" because you know, you can be wrong and if you are you are throwing the game with this attitude. Second, i think your read on kush is/was terrible and i do not know how you can in any way justify what you said about him. Especially when in the same game you replaced in i was mafia and didn't give a shit about the game due to time reasons (which i never said were the reasons). I basically did the exact same thing kush did in this game as mafia and you claim you "have never seen it before"... Again, you didn't explain what's the difference in kush's play that was more likely to come from lazy town than from mafia? That should be something any reasonable townie re-evaluates ESPECIALLY after the dude who calls kush scum because he cannot make himself play the game as mafia (Grack) dies on Night one. I find it almost ridiculous you didn't reconsider your read AT ALL after this all. Third, you seem to be suspecting people mainly for "killing the cop'". Well guess what, there were four votes on the cop at the end of D1 so it's physically impossible that voting for the cop would make one automatically mafia (because there is at least one townie who was voting for the cop -- in fact two because kush didn't vote for LS). So it cannot possibly be a reason someone is scum. You don't elaborate on WHY someone voting for the cop makes the mafia, you just lay out "this thing he did is scummy" without telling why. That's not a townie thing to do. People do stupid things all the time but stupid != scummy. Fourth, i find it quite amusing you find someone mafia for tunneling kush.. YOU FIND SOMEONE MAFIA FOR BEING RIGHT!?!?!?!? How stupid is that? In addition you only bring up this, not the fact that the dude who tunneled kush DIDN'T EVEN VOTE FOR HIM IN THE END OF THE DAY! (which in fact IS scummy). Look. You just fucking replaced in, so you don't have the whole timeline. I had an initial scum read on Sent and scum-lean on FF on d1. Then the cop gets lynched (who claimed) barely by 1 vote. This is not a fucking coincidence. I'm fucking sure there was at least 1 mafia who did not vote there. I have talked about this earlier in my filter. Again, voting on the cop is scummy because mafia don't have to waste kp (and risk a possible watcher, or medic save). Going into the night with the cop outing would not be too bad because of the relevant 2nd PR. About the kush thing and me replacing into a game, I think you are mistaken? I have only replaced into a game once, and I was mafia that game (it was Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2, iirc). I don't even think think you were in that game. Hell, I don't even think I have played with you before. I felt more strongly about other people that day than kush (namely Kelsier and Sent). Kush wasn't of any interest to me that day. Grack said his scum play was garbage so I was expecting to get a strong read on him as soon as he started playing. You would've known this had you been in the game from the start. Town here is probably Obi/Kelsier if I'd have a gander. I kind of liked Kelsier before he rescinded the cop claim 3 min before EoD. Had established a town read on him as d1 was coming to an end (had a slight scum lean on him before then). | ||
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On November 09 2014 06:54 sicklucker wrote: Sent or Superbia. Did either of you get roleblocked last night? If you did tell us in 5 minutes if your town you have to 100% tell us to confirm srejair. No. | ||
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On November 10 2014 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:My problem is the targets Superbia is proposing look really fucking good for me but otherwise his posting and activity -- compared to his earlier scum/town games does look way way way more like his scumplay. It's like he is more cocky and doesn't give any fucks about how he looks as town and in this game he seems more interested in how other people view him rather than convincing people his targets are mafia. What? That is some fucking bullshit son. What logic did I miss about Serejai being 100% confirmed town, btw? | ||
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So is he a newbie or a smurf? | ||
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On November 10 2014 07:35 Fecalfeast wrote: Tryhard newbie, I imagine. You think it's impossible? He said he watches allstar mafia all the time. I don't think it's completely impossible. However, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that newbie mafia is unlikely to post that much and basically speaks what's on their mind. I find myself agreeing with that read. I think the only way LS is scum here is if he's some sort of smurf, and is trying some sort of metagame thing. Which would probably never work out well in a newbie game. Care you explain why you think I'm town here? I have barely put any time into the game, how are you reading me? | ||
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