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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 09 2014 23:09 GMT
#2021
I agree its unlikely but we have people like Elvis who still think I'm not town, and that scum roleblocked themselves two nights in a row so... Devils advocate.

Let's assume its correct; that puts me, bats, and rayn as confirmed town. Rayn was Immaterial, right? So that means Immaterial probably afked in shame after lynching the cop. Not relevant but humorous.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
November 09 2014 23:09 GMT
#2022
can mafia not-kill?
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 09 2014 23:09 GMT
#2023
On November 10 2014 08:08 Elvis! wrote:
Superbia what if rayn is mafia?
He's now "confirmed townie" for not shooting one night?
Isn't that a trade mafia would make?


Just explained why. He can't justify being alive if the game reaches final 3.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 09 2014 23:10 GMT
#2024
On November 10 2014 08:09 Serejai wrote:
I agree its unlikely but we have people like Elvis who still think I'm not town, and that scum roleblocked themselves two nights in a row so... Devils advocate.

Let's assume its correct; that puts me, bats, and rayn as confirmed town. Rayn was Immaterial, right? So that means Immaterial probably afked in shame after lynching the cop. Not relevant but humorous.


I still don't know why you're confirmed town.
Minimal effort.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2014 23:10 GMT
#2025
The fact that 3 out of the 5 of you missed the medic claim here is really sad. Ive been saying for a long time no one reas my posts. Also stop calling me LS thats lighting strike and confusing the shit out of me/
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
November 09 2014 23:11 GMT
#2026
Ok I guess mafia can't not-shoot. This changes things.
Still not byting bats and rayn being confirmed.
What if bats lied? Would the real medic cc? No, because he's maybe not stupid.
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 23:12 GMT
#2027
On November 10 2014 08:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 08:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 10 2014 08:03 Serejai wrote:
Mafia could have not attacked for whatever reason. We have no way of knowing whether or not a shot went off now that the rules in the op have been changed.


This is kind of my concern.

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.


Then rayn is mafia and had to have known 100% where the save is going to be? And then has to explain how is he still alive as confirmed town AND as an experienced player if the game reaches final 3?


He didn't have to know anything: everybody knows where the medic save would have gone if we had one, so having a no-kill would be completely justified if medic never claimed.

I still don't know if bats' claim is serious or not; for some reason my brain doesn't think so.

I think someone already brought up that mafia might not have the option of no-killing.

We are seriously impeded by the fact that we aren't reading the OP properly.
Retired.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 09 2014 23:12 GMT
#2028
Actually real medic has to CC unless he has a hard town-read on Bats because else we probably straight up lose the game.
Minimal effort.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 09 2014 23:12 GMT
#2029
On November 10 2014 08:07 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 08:05 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm not going to live in a world where mafia doesn't shoot.


Taken from the OP

Show nested quote +
Mafia Goon
Every night, the mafia team must choose a player to kill, and a team member to perform the kill.


I don't think mafia can no kill


is this rule still accurate?
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
November 09 2014 23:13 GMT
#2030
but then medic dies next night.
I don't see medic ccing.
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2014 23:13 GMT
#2031
On November 10 2014 08:07 Elvis! wrote:
So there is a couple of cases where I don't agree:
Since they don't want a confirmed townie, they blocked someone else the second night, thus his claim is wrong.
They blocked themselves 2 times which you already pointed out.
Since a lot of people (me included) haven't been particularily clever this game, someone might not out themselves being blocked in fear of getting lynched.
As Serejai posted they could have not shot for whatever reason. So medic could have been blocked, and medic doesn't wanna out before lategame because he's gonna get killed if he does.
This is the same reason why I think bats outing of being medic is either really stupid or wrong (could still be town or mafia).
Like if he's mafia, the real medic wouldn't cc, since claiming medic is retarded before endgame.

I'm not saying this is a lot of propability.
But it's not 100% and there could be mafia strategy behind it.


I don't think you are thinking about this right elvis.

If they blocked someone else the second night where is the CC?

Also yes ive pointed out they could block themselves twice but did you actually read that post. If bats is telling the truth or even if he isn't mafia obviously went for a kill which was a high priority medic save. Why would they run the risk of letting the medic get a save. They wouldn't use their roleblock twice on themselves. I really believe they thought serejai was medic because grack was easily who i thought was going to be medic saved N1 so they probably thought they stopped serejai from healing him.

Why would you get lynched for saying you were blocked? This is a terrible mindset you are thinking more about your own survival than giving town the information they need to win

Also from what the Op says i don't think they can no kill.

So for you to believe that serejai isnt town you need to think mafia is willing to waste their roleblock two nights in a row and are willing to try and kill a high priority target who was likely to be medic saved.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2014 23:14 GMT
#2032
If bats claim isn't real im not going to be impressed because of how annoyed he got at KSC
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2014 23:15 GMT
#2033
People who are like 95% confirmed town to me

bats
serejai
rayn

people who we should not vote off
breske
elvis ( not as sure but meh)

If we hit on sent we just vote off ff, superbia, obiwan and me in any order and we win the game
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
November 09 2014 23:15 GMT
#2034
what if mafia roleblocks the person performing the night kill?
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 09 2014 23:16 GMT
#2035
Yo SL, can you explain to me how I went from confirmed town to probably mafai? I asked this before. Just tell me how it happened in your mind.
Minimal effort.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2014 23:16 GMT
#2036
On November 10 2014 08:13 Elvis! wrote:
but then medic dies next night.
I don't see medic ccing.


medic would 100% cc here. A 1 for 1 trade here grantees us a win especially if you believe sent is mafia
Bat is not bad enough to make a fake claim here anyone its set in stone
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 09 2014 23:17 GMT
#2037
On November 10 2014 08:15 Elvis! wrote:
what if mafia roleblocks the person performing the night kill?


So now Serejai is mafai with Rayn?
Minimal effort.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
November 09 2014 23:18 GMT
#2038
On November 10 2014 08:09 Elvis! wrote:
can mafia not-kill?


Mafia must submit a kill every night, and a person to send in the kill. It's possible for mafia to fail to kill someone if a Doctor makes a save.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2014 23:19 GMT
#2039
On November 10 2014 08:16 Superbia wrote:
Yo SL, can you explain to me how I went from confirmed town to probably mafai? I asked this before. Just tell me how it happened in your mind.


You were never confirmed town you were my top town. I agree I was a little wissy wassy here but rayn made alot of sense and now hes confirmed town. Also theres so many nearly confirmed towns now that your just on the chopping block by default (along with me)
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 09 2014 23:23 GMT
#2040
What exactly did rayn say that made you change your mind?
Minimal effort.
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