On November 02 2014 06:25 Holyflare wrote: Where on earth did anyone think i was town reading damd because of flavour? That is quite literally the most terrible thing I've read from slam and jay. Not only does it have a maybe at the end but i explain the clear scum motivation for it straight afterwards. This shows that not only are 2 people in the game not reading anything to do with the important parts of the game (this whole damd debacle) but they quite clearly want to misrepresnt while doing so. Super super scummy
Also I'm not too bothered about damd for now i liked his notes and they pretty much aligned with my list. Will read the Kirby thing in a bit but it looked somewhat boring :p
I went to go look wtf you are talking about (post not directed at you?) and decided you are scum
Voted you
Now tell me why because until I did that I was townreading you and I am notoriously bad at reading
On November 02 2014 06:34 Holyflare wrote: I mean... Meh.. I read it and i can see why you think he is scummy but a lot of it is based on just unexplained reads which you never actually got him to explain so that doesn't make him scum it just makes him unexplained. A lot more people also talked heavily about the cat, one of them being jay who you super town read so not sure how you think kirby talking about it is scummy and then the rest is i dunno.... Just not scummy? Yeh voting for gb is weird but looking up the rng stats just seems like a lot of trouble to do and somewhat tedious for mafia to give a reason for unvoting someone who has the most pages in the game when he could literally just say that.
On November 02 2014 06:25 Holyflare wrote: Where on earth did anyone think i was town reading damd because of flavour? That is quite literally the most terrible thing I've read from slam and jay. Not only does it have a maybe at the end but i explain the clear scum motivation for it straight afterwards. This shows that not only are 2 people in the game not reading anything to do with the important parts of the game (this whole damd debacle) but they quite clearly want to misrepresnt while doing so. Super super scummy
Also I'm not too bothered about damd for now i liked his notes and they pretty much aligned with my list. Will read the Kirby thing in a bit but it looked somewhat boring :p
I went to go look wtf you are talking about (post not directed at you?) and decided you are scum
Voted you
Now tell me why because until I did that I was townreading you and I am notoriously bad at reading
I don't know why you have to go back when you didn't even write this that long ago and is a clear reference to me thinking damd is town because of a role which is clearly not the case to anyone that has read anything to do with damd
On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe
Why?
He is under the impression that it cannot be a scum role.
That's dumb
I see you now.
Although, what messed me up is something else hey?
Can you see it
The wishy washy ism? If there is a declarative player it is HolyFlare
On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote: 1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it 5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw 11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really 12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that 13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
potential people to add:
seuss jay tolkien
Stop the shitty list post. I WANNA A CASE DAMMIT. Preferably one that you don't directly misrepresent things.
i don't misrepresent anything you can quite literally say what you want but everyone else knows that what i said wasn't a misrepresentation and the only reason you're not on my list is the amount of butt hurt that you are displaying about it and the fact that you actually did something that wasn't talking about policy but it was on me so that's why you're close to being on my list again
On November 01 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote: HF always likes to put words & intent into posts that weren't ever there.
Does this as both alignments.
You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth.
HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise.
Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you.
I think you underestimate the ability of folks to use a persona; this is a persona that works for mafia play. (Not scum play; I mean the whole game). I doubt HF is personally egotistical on that level.
On November 02 2014 06:42 Holyflare wrote: It literally does not matter if i am wishy washy, "misrepresnting" or whatever. At the end of the day all i have to do is lead the town to lynch mafia and if you are posting about me representing YOU but then start posting about me town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make you look completely terrible.
This is to my point (about not seeing it as a personal thing- that this playstyle is a strat and a fairly good one) @jaybrundage
On November 02 2014 06:48 Holyflare wrote: This is just like rayn last game where i call him out for doing terrible scummy things and his reply is that I'm terrible and must be mafia.
You do realize you and Rayn are just two sides of a magnet, or a battery, in this
You are the live wire and he is the ground
You are the positive polarity and he is the negative.
He says "you suxxu you are skum I dknt Kare wut U SEZ u die now"
You say "whatteffer I am town mang so bakcofft PHUUL, you are not steering this ship I am"
I am saying I did not say you are misinterpreting everywhere. Just that this is your tendency. Also, I claim hypocrisy every time this comes up. I do most of the crap I accuse ppl of, like I just made a post about how RAYN is RAWR and you are pfft...; often times I am both
You have your RAWR and Rayn his PFFT... (Rayn is never calm) But generally! Yes
On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote: But there are two problems here: 1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off 2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.
The whole point or RNG, GB, is that I don't have control over who is lynched. Nobody does. It's RNG. If it was "I'm gonna use RNG, but only follow up on it if the guy is a lurker", that wouldn't be RNG, that would be "BH likes to talk about RNG but when the chips are down he folds" and I am not a guy who folds when the chips are down. I take RNG seriously, and yes, sometimes RNG lands on an active scum instead of a passive scum. That doesn't make it less valid.
On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote: Ok. I know for a fact that BH likes RNG. I also know for a fact that sometimes he uses this to generate discussion.
But there are two problems here: 1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off 2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.
It looks like he is trying to get town off the right track, because he is insisting on a mechanic that is going to lead on a mislynches. He is not reading the game and he is not caring for the game. You can see that he refuses to talk about anything else.
Who BH thinks is scum? Nobody knows. Who BH thinks is town? Nobody knows.
Passivity and creating confusion. Mafia traits. BH is mafia.
nah point 2 isnt relevant because RNGing then deciding to push that person defeats the purpose of RNG.
So yeah these are mostly bad reasons why BH is scum. If BH was town, he would do the RNG shit too. But he would do additional stuff like trying harder to convince people to jump on the RNG wagon.
Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum.
On November 01 2014 21:34 GlowingBear wrote: Slam, he had the chance to do it earlier. He came to the thread, someone sent him to dinner (lol) and he peace'd out. Why he didn't start the RNG that time and not now?
Eh, I wasn't really planning to do it, but it turned out I had to go to dinner and didn't have enough time to do any other voting strategy or do a bigger analysis of the thread. I'm 100% sure I already said this. Didn' you read my filter?
On November 01 2014 23:51 GlowingBear wrote: Ok oats. My first thought was that maybe we should lynch Kirby But after reading BH's previous games I want to lynch him so much.
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, sit back and watch it happen
