Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2

On October 23 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:

First one to get the amount of votes gets lynched.

On October 23 2014 11:26 Holyflare wrote:


gb let's enter a hypothetical world.. a game has just started and someone says that someone is mafia based on absolutely no posts at all

do you think it's based on real information that has been obtained from the game

orrr

a joke?

On October 23 2014 13:10 Fecalfeast wrote:

I remember you. How is this a logical play?

On October 23 2014 13:12 Fecalfeast wrote:

I thought you were leaving

On October 23 2014 13:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, obviously not, i guess

On October 23 2014 15:46 DrParnassus wrote:
If slam is town which I think he is, that's indicative of rayn being town as well. I doubt scum would be eager to clear a town slam since so many people have a hard time figuring out slam's alignment.

On October 23 2014 16:56 Holyflare wrote:
Glad we are doing things.... Either way, I've seen 2 people (robik and (storr??)) say that gb is town when he's posted literally nothing, not to mention that robik had called me and gb town but then retroactively wanted to take that back based on another post of mine which meant he hadn't actually read anything other than page 1 of the thread

Thrawn has some weird double association read which i don't like at all and is quite frankly weird to begin with because he is town reading one of the most unreadable players (as is rayn)

On October 23 2014 18:38 justanothertownie wrote:

Feels really fake.

On October 23 2014 18:40 justanothertownie wrote:



Hello Guilty Mafia Robik?! Unsubstantiated reads from the background + constant townclaiming sounds familiar.

On October 23 2014 19:54 liancourt wrote:
i'm totally mafai

On October 23 2014 21:41 Damdred wrote:
Sure its already been pointed out about robik and the comparison to guilty gear, while the initial town reads with no explanation is damning his lurkiness also seems antirobik which falls in line with the guilty mafiarobik.

Storr is my other scumlean just feels forced, the tunnel things feels off as well I'll have to reread another game I played with him but he says he doesn't tunnel as town.

On October 23 2014 21:44 liancourt wrote:
does everything have to be about gathering information and scum motivation...really i'm just here to see what reactions you come up with. I'm no good at reading ppl indirectly so I have to converse with them. I don't know about you, but I have to be in the convo to read accurately I can't read what others have and say this and that. So I'm making convo. Do you know why reading indirectly isn't very good? It's because you don't know what alignment the 2 people are. For all we know it could be 2 scum talking to each other acting god knows how. At least if I'm in the convo I know what motivation I have so I can figure out the motivations of my conversationee by seeing their reactions. taadaa first long first

On October 23 2014 22:16 StorrZerg wrote:
no, i see what you are doing as deflection from hf. since you are not coming to any conclusion to hf. since "nothing he has done isn't alignment indicative" i read this as a cop out.

On October 23 2014 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
Getript has kindly made me town

On October 23 2014 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Giving out townreads is just as important than giving out scumreads.
It helps people to figure out your alignment and reduces the chance of mislynchable ppl in case your read is correct.

On October 23 2014 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah, tell the player who has done the most today to do more. That sounds perfectly reasonable.

You for example might also be scum and I think I said that much already.

On October 24 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:

I gave this read on you. You even commented on it. Throwing out random townread from the sidelines claiming town like 2 times in your first 3 posts now you are claiming that storr and me are 2 town fighting. All of this is reminiscent of guilty mafia.
And you are blatantly lying if you are saying that I did nothing but tunnel on storr.

On October 24 2014 00:33 justanothertownie wrote:

I disagree. I think rayn really does value figuring out the people that he thinks are the most important (in other games that would be marv most of the times for example). Of course scumhunting is extremely important to townrayn but if you think that he puts no stake in townreads you are just being ridiculous.

On October 24 2014 00:51 StorrZerg wrote:
Who is thrawn in this game.

On October 24 2014 01:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Last post @Robik.

On October 24 2014 02:30 StorrZerg wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini

last one i played with him

On October 24 2014 02:45 IAmRobik wrote:

Read the first 2 pages of his filter.
Would lynch

On October 24 2014 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:


It's gun happen.

Robik, are you town?

On October 24 2014 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:


It's gun happen.

Robik, are you town?

On October 24 2014 04:21 Damdred wrote:
Who's scum gb

On October 24 2014 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:
I'm off & on

On October 24 2014 05:54 liancourt wrote:
Elaborate shit posting cos its better than dead thread i think.

On October 24 2014 06:17 DrParnassus wrote:
And no, I can't give any reasons why any of the people in that list are scummy because it's a PoE list. A few things have caught my eye so far but now isn't a useful time to talk about them.



Yeah, just caught up. And no to the request for reasoning, see the beginning of this post.

On October 24 2014 06:24 justanothertownie wrote:

I never said he gave good or well reasoned reads. But he most definitely gave reads as you see. I still have a hard time seeing a new scum player post like he did earlier. You seemed to be of the same opinion. Does this not matter anymore?

On October 24 2014 06:27 batsnacks wrote:




This follow up is weird and robik just sort of let it go and never said another word about GB. @Robik were you satisfied with this follow up and his town read on you?

On October 24 2014 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah, what we will do with GB is wait until he has time to post and if his play doesn't get considerably more towny then we can just lynch him as far as I am concerned.

On October 24 2014 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:

Can you quote me where he claimed that? That's news to me - I only know of his towngame here. And yes I also don't townread him for game related posts because most of them are pretty questionable. Apart from some posts on storr.

On October 07 2014 04:59 liancourt wrote:


I am from somewhere else. So in a way I am new but not new. Take what you will. So guess the smurf game is over.

How should a new player post?

Hi i am new here lets be friends?

On October 24 2014 07:54 liancourt wrote:
looks like marv can play after all

On October 24 2014 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not asking for a replacement. I will play and wreck mafia.

Getting out of work.

On October 24 2014 08:14 justanothertownie wrote:

Explain.

On October 24 2014 10:24 GlowingBear wrote:


Funny thing: you're also not trying.

Who do you want to lynch?

On October 24 2014 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
.: Brief case on lian

This post is horrible:



Reasons this post is bad: (i) of course most of day one must be about gathering information, and mafia game is about trying to understand mafia motivation. (ii) solely reactions won't help defining alignment as they can be faked or misinterpreted. (iii) doesn't matter if you don't know the alignment of people that are talking, you only have to read them and figure out who is mafia and why. (iv) knowing your motivation changes nothing regarding understanding other people's motivation.

But mostly, this is how he describes his gameplay. But this gameplay hasn't being like this.
Before this particular post, look at what he posted:

+ Show Spoiler [before bad post] +

And this particular one:



It doesn't seem like he is really interested in getting into conversation. He's mostly posting random and stupid things out of the blue. Then, regarding JAT pointing out stupid questions, he just says "bye bye", instead of tryingt to stick to the conversation.

So, he has 5 pages filter of bad 1 liners. Thread has 38 pages.
Who is scum in his view? Nobody knows.
What does he get from people's reaction? Nobody knows.

tl;dr = lian says he need to get into conversation to evaluate reactions, but he is not putting effort into getting into conversations and he is not giving reads on people's reaction. Just posting a lot of random jokes.
He is not interested in solving the game. Therefore, mafia.

On October 24 2014 12:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Controversial read of the game:
GB is town


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On October 24 2014 12:57 Holyflare wrote:
twat

On October 24 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik sucks.

On October 24 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote:

It's not even not jumping on it. He townread you pretty strongly for exactly those posts and defended you against me. Now he is saying GBs catchup that was in fact very very similar is the strangest thing he has seen in a while.
I also fail to see how giving the reads you got until you had to take a break for a while is that scummy.

On October 24 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik, what do you think of FF?

On October 24 2014 23:20 GlowingBear wrote:


In general.
I find you arrogant, but funny.

I just like to diss you

On October 24 2014 23:21 GlowingBear wrote:


Can you break down that read on Rayn a little bit more?

On October 24 2014 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:

I will tell you why this is problematic.

1) You can't compare rayns current towngame to his past games as you said yourself in this very post.
2) You can summarize his new towngame all you want but that does not convince me that he is mafia.
3) I am not voting him just because you want him out of the game because you don't like him.

On October 24 2014 23:50 justanothertownie wrote:

Rayn specifically said that he would have time this afternoon/evening which is pretty soon. If he doesn't show up then I will start getting suspicious but you played in fanfic and should know very well how he played there. So the line of reasoning you are showing here is not helping us win this game.

On October 25 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:

Yes, you did. It was the game HF completely fooled you. BHs failure of a game.
No, I am not impressed with his posts but he also posted nothing that I had any problem with so why the hell would I want to lynch him or even be embarassed about voting with him?

On October 24 2014 23:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Here is the problem, Robik: in this game, we have 3 or 4 people lurking (if you believe thrawn is): kush, Elvis, Rayn and thrawn.

Kush promised he was going to blow the thread with towniness, but he didn't . He brought the excuse that he is busy, but he did the same last game he was scum. He also was active. He was only responding when he was cited, which means he is reading the thread but not contributing.

Elvis has 3 posts. In one, he says FF and lian looks bad for terrible, terrible reasons. He also said I and thrawn looks bad and that he was going to tell us why later, but never did.

Rayn came to the thread, said he was busy, pointed out things, threw weird town reads and leader out.

I have nothing memorable from thrawn, which is really bad for him. I have to dive him.

So, between these four , you're trying to lynch Rayn, the only guy that said he was busy. And you're trying to lynch him based mostly on inactivity.

Why not considering the others?

On October 25 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:

That's great for you personally. But asinine as a townie.

On October 25 2014 00:07 justanothertownie wrote:

Anyone who has this mindset is just an idiot. Townies also have teammates to worry about. More of them.

On October 25 2014 00:11 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO GIVE SCUMREADS?

On October 25 2014 00:08 GlowingBear wrote:


Now, this is WIFOM.

On October 25 2014 00:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, you're saying that you have no scumread after 48 pages of thread.
Lol c'mon.

On October 25 2014 00:18 GlowingBear wrote:


You're saying that mafia is more likely to give excuses than town based on nothing. Your interpretation is WIFOM.
Whatever, you don't want to play the game. You just want to lynch Rayn.

On October 25 2014 00:36 Damdred wrote:
My head hurts but good morning,

question to robik what have I asked or said and not followed up on

On October 25 2014 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Robiks list is disappointing. Nothing really bad about it but there isn't a single hard stance in there. I mean yeah, you said you don't have strong scumreads and are hunting for town but there isn't even a strong townread in there. Every read has some kind of caveat.

On October 25 2014 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:

No, you aren't on my list for today. But the game could be so much easier if I knew you are town.

On October 25 2014 00:57 Damdred wrote:
Rob, it seemed like you were starting to scum read me in your list post and it was because I hadn't followed up. But your next post was that it probably wasn't correct just that I didn't follow up correctly? I'm not used to you being so wishy washy rob it makes me feel weird

On October 25 2014 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
afk - dinner

On October 25 2014 01:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Imma go eat breakfast, take your lunch robik

On October 25 2014 02:05 liancourt wrote:
At robik.

You found me scum earlier in the game and now u think im townie what changed ur mind?

On October 25 2014 02:27 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, your listpost does indicate this in a way.


What's up rayn? Isn't it time already?

On October 25 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean correct me if I am wrong but the 5 hours he was talking about are almost over, right?

On October 23 2014 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kush is like the most straightforward person to read and he just promised to play the game which is a clear towntell.
Gb on the other hand is tricky and could EASILY fake that post.

On October 24 2014 17:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's bullshit because you can then ask me "why" (like i cqught vivax in titanic III.

##vote: holyflare
Not trying to figure out my alignment which hd would do as town as we would wreck scum.
Talking about irrelevant stuff instead ox important tgings.
Not driving the discussion forward except for his vote, but one thing is clearly not enoough. And i don't believe the case as we are talking about bats here.
Terrible reads on various people.
Incapable of understanding basic logic which means not paying attention to why pdople post what they do.

On October 25 2014 03:28 liancourt wrote:


Then would u mind explaining why u didnt respond to my 8 point post that was in response to u and ff.

On October 24 2014 06:41 liancourt wrote:


1. Whats there to read?
2. You think i read ppl at the start of the game in my last game? I began reading properly day 3. Anything before that were mere guesses but i gave them anyway becauses the masses whined why i wasnt doing anything lol
3. Honestly i tried hard from the get go last game i admit that. My first game on a new forum i wanted to try my best so i did. Hmm but i got called scum for try harding.
4. I play mafia with different playstyles personas watever u wanna call them. I may even change while playing the game. I tried hard last game it was stressful no one believing u were town. This game i came with the fuck it all persona. I like to joke around and see how ppl react to me and give a few serious posts here and there.
5. There are others who havent even posted as much as me and havent even given half assed first impression reads like me dont know why u are calling me out all of a sudden.
6. I dont play with the normal mindset. My motivation while winning is a goal it isnt a primary goal to having fun while playing because you play to have fun. While i like to argue and debate i dont wanna call ppl names and swear at them. And getting called stupid while argueing with someone isnt my thing. I think i got called stupid a lot last game for being non productive but thats how i play. I ll take on any argument regardless of motivation whether it be pro town anti town because i enjoy the debating side of it.
7. Is asking me why i m not trying actually related to the game we are actually playing right now? If i were to have played lazily last game would it have looked normal?
8. I m bait. Hello fishes let me see how you react.

On October 25 2014 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik goes to scumlist.

On October 25 2014 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nvm you are prolly town.
But stop shitposting ok ?
What's your case on me? Meta read is shit and you know it.

On October 25 2014 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay. What read do you want me to explain?

On October 25 2014 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dou you think HF is trying to solve the game?
Like fuck!!! HE IS NOT!

On October 25 2014 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What do you want me to do?
I have given my scumreads.
I am confident of lyncing all of them.

Who do you want to lynch?

On October 24 2014 07:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +

0-3 so far as town and I'm already getting myself in a position to be mislynched D1.

Feels bad, man.

On October 25 2014 06:29 justanothertownie wrote:

That's not very clever.

On October 25 2014 09:26 GlowingBear wrote:


Gentlemen, here's an example of fluff.

"I wouldn't lynch storr I think"
"Kush and batsnacks my top 2 scums but I don't know..."
"I'm afraid to lynch thrawn but I would lynch town but I don't know..."

On October 25 2014 09:26 GlowingBear wrote:


Gentlemen, here's an example of fluff.

"I wouldn't lynch storr I think"
"Kush and batsnacks my top 2 scums but I don't know..."
"I'm afraid to lynch thrawn but I would lynch town but I don't know..."

On October 25 2014 09:28 Alakaslam wrote:

You are very late

Read b4 post as town or scum

I love being a hypocrite

But srsly you are not immersed at all

On October 25 2014 09:30 justanothertownie wrote:

That's not helpful man.

Quotes or it didn't happen.

On October 25 2014 09:31 Alakaslam wrote:
JAT said it for you rob

On October 25 2014 09:31 GlowingBear wrote:


JAT, only.

Why?

On October 25 2014 09:33 GlowingBear wrote:


Wow, I'm so offended.
When are you going to actually play the game though? Or are you going to be on the fence everytime?

On October 25 2014 10:00 justanothertownie wrote:

I wonder if he himself is able to understand that when he is sober.

On October 25 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:


HAPA! OH PLEASE GET ROBIK'S SLOT.

On October 24 2014 08:32 IAmRobik wrote:
batsnacks seems too calm and rational to be towm

On October 24 2014 06:27 batsnacks wrote:




This follow up is weird and robik just sort of let it go and never said another word about GB. @Robik were you satisfied with this follow up and his town read on you?

On October 25 2014 11:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Robik, we just lynched mafia and you are upset? Tsk tsk.

Anyways - good job guys. I am going to bed.

On October 25 2014 11:25 IAmRobik wrote:

I'm not upset. I'm happy. I fucking called that guy mafia the entire game I'm pretty sure.

On October 25 2014 11:29 DrParnassus wrote:


tbh everyone sorta did, or at least they had him in their lynch list

On October 25 2014 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:


I don't get the reads on kush, storr and FF.

On October 25 2014 11:31 Damdred wrote:
GB would ff and bs be bussing each other d1

On October 26 2014 14:29 liancourt wrote:
So who is x

On October 26 2014 12:20 Damdred wrote:
I'm the cop and had a green check on lian

On October 26 2014 15:00 IAmRobik wrote:

Is this a hard claim?

On October 26 2014 12:29 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd love to get Robik lynched