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DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 20:40 GMT
#1123
On October 25 2014 05:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, thrawn while you are hopefully answering my last post to you 2 concrete requests. Now would be the time to explain this:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 06:39 DrParnassus wrote:

9. kushm4sta

I think I'm exempt from having to explain this read so I'm not gonna waste time going into it unless ends up as a lynch or something



I have a very good track record of reading kush, yet people often argue with me about my kush read even though Ive proven time and time again that I can usually read him correctly. I'm done fighting that battle unless he's up for lynch or something.
On October 25 2014 05:29 justanothertownie wrote:
and this:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 10:40 DrParnassus wrote:
eh, ff probably isn't mafia after all



I made that post yesterday, after FF got shat on by half the thread and got a bit flustered. But he decided to come back to the thread and play the game, not only that but he had a positive attitude. He came back within an hour and that looks like a town who decided to care.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 20:43 GMT
#1125
On October 25 2014 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 05:31 DrParnassus wrote:
On October 25 2014 05:23 liancourt wrote:
On October 25 2014 05:19 DrParnassus wrote:
On October 25 2014 05:16 GlowingBear wrote:
THRAWN

WHO
IS
MAFIA


if I had an answer to that I'd share it. i realize that makes it hard for people to read my alignment but I'm not just going to fabricate a scum read just to appease you guys.



Theres 56 pages of stuff. Surely someone is acting unnatural


hf maybe

I have little to no experience playing mafia with 7/12 players in this game with and the way said people play mafia confuses me. So yes I find most people's behavior to be unnatural, I'm a bit lost atm but I should be around up till the lynch so if you need to vote for me then find something else to talk about in the meantime beause I will provide content and prove myself town later.


I am pretty sure you played enough games with slam, rayn, HF, me, kush and maybe storr/robik? Sorry if I don't really believe your promise to prove yourself later on right now.



slam + rayn + hf + you + kush + robik + myself = 7
13-7 = 6

Oh damn I was 1 off, I must be mafia.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 20:50 GMT
#1130
On October 25 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 05:40 DrParnassus wrote:
On October 25 2014 05:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, thrawn while you are hopefully answering my last post to you 2 concrete requests. Now would be the time to explain this:
On October 24 2014 06:39 DrParnassus wrote:

9. kushm4sta

I think I'm exempt from having to explain this read so I'm not gonna waste time going into it unless ends up as a lynch or something



I have a very good track record of reading kush, yet people often argue with me about my kush read even though Ive proven time and time again that I can usually read him correctly. I'm done fighting that battle unless he's up for lynch or something.
On October 25 2014 05:29 justanothertownie wrote:
and this:
On October 24 2014 10:40 DrParnassus wrote:
eh, ff probably isn't mafia after all



I made that post yesterday, after FF got shat on by half the thread and got a bit flustered. But he decided to come back to the thread and play the game, not only that but he had a positive attitude. He came back within an hour and that looks like a town who decided to care.

To the Kush thing:

1) He is up for lynch. Like you are yourself.
2) You don't need to fight me about it. I just want you to explain why you think so.

To the FF thing:

I disagree. I actually think FF has been very negative all game even though he was nothing like that in the towngames I remember playing with him.


the transition happens on page 3 of his filter.

ANd yeah he's kinda negative in general, that's something I even commented on earlier about most of his posts were snark one liner comebacks to anyone who needed to talk to him. Then while reading his filter I saw these pregame posts:

On October 23 2014 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 02:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 23 2014 01:43 IAmRobik wrote:
what if I type it like this ?

On October 17 2014 02:16 geript wrote:
Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
11. Trying to rules lawyer the host.
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.


Keep pushing it.
+ Show Spoiler +
all in good fun, but seriously, you know the rules



Doesn't say he can't rules lawyer the cohost



On October 23 2014 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Meanwhile FecalFeast and Alakaslam have to worry about whether to eat before or after deadline. So close to early and late dinner times, ugh.

What a + Show Spoiler +
non-existant
inconvenience for us west-coast NA people.



I know he's not being negative here but he has a somewhat similar attitude in that he likes to make sarcastic jokes and poke at people, so I think that might just be his personality
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 20:52 GMT
#1133
Annnnnd he mentioned something about irl issues pissing him off so unless you think that's the type of lie he'd tell as mafia, it explains his general negative attitude.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 20:53 GMT
#1134
On October 25 2014 05:52 IAmRobik wrote:
What are you even doing this game Thrawn? Like seriously? WTF is going on?


Idk, I came here to play a game of mafia, not see who can come up with the sickest burn.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 20:57 GMT
#1137
On October 25 2014 05:51 IAmRobik wrote:
Are you seriously quoting a post from before the game started?


My point is a good one. JAT thinks ff's negative attitude is indicative of a scum mindset. I would agree, except I suspect there mightbe reasons why he's negative other than his alignment. He could just have a negative attitude because that's his personality, or he's having a bad day, and I've provided evidence suggesting both of those things could be true. I'm not sure what you don't understand.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#1139
glowingbear, damdred isn't up for lynch. do you think that's the best use of your vote?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 21:10 GMT
#1143
JAT can you give me a tldr of your thoughts on FF
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 21:12 GMT
#1145
.... lol
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 21:33 GMT
#1152
On October 25 2014 06:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Fecalfeast:

The biggest part is the tone read. I was in his first game (he was town) and I actually had a townread on FF for almost the whole game from the start. Partly because he seemed comfortable and jokey.

I am not seeing this here. He is rather negative.

He also made some posts that I think a towny wouldn't because they don't gain any information or because the answer to them is obvious. Posts posted to have posts basically. Examples:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait GB you just said you were going to make a case on lian then you quote 1 post from robik and because he was unsure in one sentence, voted him.


Were you really going to make a case on lian?


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 13:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 23 2014 13:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On October 23 2014 11:26 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2014 11:23 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm town again. Yay
And game is already weird.

DP, why do you think one of you is mafia?


gb let's enter a hypothetical world.. a game has just started and someone says that someone is mafia based on absolutely no posts at all

do you think it's based on real information that has been obtained from the game

orrr

a joke?

this post sucks almost enough for me to rescind my towm read on hf.

I thought you were leaving

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait so lian you are more worried about arguing points you don't actually believe (ie shitting up the thread) than winning?

Are you srs?

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 08:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 24 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 24 2014 08:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 24 2014 07:31 batsnacks wrote:
On October 24 2014 07:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
That's what I call needlessly arguing in a mafia thread. Shitting up the thread. Arguing a point just because you like to argue and not because you think the person presenting the point is wrong is anti-town, is it not?


The way you worded it though was Liam is "more worried about arguing points [he] [doesn't] actually believe" i.e. anti-town reasons.

The emphasis is on Liam arguing for anti town reasons. It's a tone thing I guess.

Do you think Liam is arguing this game for anti-town reasons?


Yes. I think arguing people for 'fun' rather than arguing to find scum or gain real information is anti-town.


Ok, Sherlock. But that is not the point. The point is do you think lian is scummy for saying this? And if you think so - why?


I think this, in combination with his fluffy filter, makes him look scummy. He says he loves to argue and debate no matter what yet I don't see one real argument from him this game.

I have nothing more to add to my read on lian, really. If you think he looks towny or non-aligned please tell me why so I can stop shitting up the thread myself?

^ He went on about that point a while complaining how it is anti town. No shit.

He is downplaying himself time and time again (-> not lighthearted or confident):
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ah, I didn't know you meant brand new, Storr. I still consider myself new, tbh.

Misinterpretations are my specialty

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 07:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 24 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
fecal is like super serious this game

0-3 so far as town and I'm already getting myself in a position to be mislynched D1.

Feels bad, man.

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 10:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
I thought I had a decent case on lian but nobody saw him the way I did so I dropped it.

I'm not so good at tunneling.

Who would you lynch, robik?


The rest of his filter isn't giving me a towny enough impression to counter all the scummyness I just presented.


Yeah I see what you're talking about....

meh

I have to leave for at least an hour, I'll think it over while I'm gone
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 23:12 GMT
#1195
kush what makes you think slam parking his vote on me is a scum tactic? he did that many times as town on omgus regardless of my alignment
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 23:21 GMT
#1200
On October 25 2014 08:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 08:12 DrParnassus wrote:
kush what makes you think slam parking his vote on me is a scum tactic? he did that many times as town on omgus regardless of my alignment


its a lazy vote regardless


do you expect more from him?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 23:27 GMT
#1202
On October 25 2014 08:23 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 08:21 DrParnassus wrote:
On October 25 2014 08:20 kushm4sta wrote:
On October 25 2014 08:12 DrParnassus wrote:
kush what makes you think slam parking his vote on me is a scum tactic? he did that many times as town on omgus regardless of my alignment


its a lazy vote regardless


do you expect more from him?


on omgus he just won an endgame as the only scum left. so im extra wary of him atm.


The reason slam is voting me is basically the same reason anyone else is. Nobody has a case against me or has tired to explain scum motivations behind my posts, the votes are on me because I was lazy the first half of the day, and because people are bad at meta. Are any of them scum for doing what you think makes slam scum?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 23:31 GMT
#1204
i'm not getting lynched and idc about slam, I'm trying to figure out what you're doing
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 23:46 GMT
#1208
I might be coming around on this FF thing but I need to finish reading those qts elvis posted.

Btw, I was looking at the huge elvis post while researching FF and it's a good post. He has a well developed and consistent thought process regarding his FF read so I don't think elvis is a good lynch for what that's worth.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 23:49 GMT
#1211
idk if that was a question directed at me or just an observation, but lets not get into it because I think even considering lynching elvis is a waste of time
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 25 2014 00:03 GMT
#1228
yeah ofc
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 25 2014 00:18 GMT
#1244
batsnacks

+ Show Spoiler +

-useless "fight" with slam. I can appreciate lighthearted fun but there's always a difference between a townie having fun and mafia pretending to be a townie having fun. When a townie is joking with another player there is often a hint of suspicion underneath the trolling, as if the townie might actually just be playing good cop in order to catch another player off guard. When mafia pretends to bea townie having fun, the emphasis is 100% on the fun without any hint of possible scumhunting hidden underneath the fun. batsnacks seems to be forcing his jokes on top of that.

-I think kush's wk post makes sense. There is no reason for batsnacks to flatter robik so much unless bat is scum and robik is town.

-uselss questions as someone else pointed out. maybe holyflare? stuff like this:

On October 24 2014 07:20 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Storr are you saying you have not found lian scummy at all this game and your vote was actually just because he said he was baiting you?

I missed your post where you accepted him as a new player, so I guess I have been skimming a little but I read your post more serious.



FF you said that something about Liam preferring anti-town arguments but he never said that, this is what he said:

Show nested quote +
I ll take on any argument regardless of motivation whether it be pro town anti town because i enjoy the debating side of it.


So did you skim that post or are you just reaching for reasons to scum read the guy who's "shitposting"?


He may as well ask "Are you town or mafia?"

-other than the unhelpful questions that won't find mafia, he's spent most of the game talking about fecalfeast

I think all the above has been covered already. I have one more thing though:

On October 24 2014 06:56 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 06:52 DrParnassus wrote:
On October 24 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
I think robik looks pretty solid. I like how he's posting; he's focused, not all caps, consolidated, no personal dramas, that stuff is what reminds me of hard to get along with robik. @DrParnassus what about robik this game seem hard to cooperate with? Could you quote an example? You did say -everything about the way he's playing- reminds you of that.


it's his attitude in general, his arrogance


Is it arrogance or non-cooperativeness? Or is his arrogance making him hard to cooperate with?

I asked robik a question he apparently has already answered and he answered it again for me and didn't even call me dumb.

Are you sure you're not just biased because he said you were mafia?


The bolded part suggests batsnacks knows I'm town. I wouldn;t be biased in the way batsnacks suggests if I was mafia. His statement only works if he's pretty sure about me being town.





DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 25 2014 00:38 GMT
#1288
I changed my mind about FF again, he's town. He's one of a few people doing useful things right now. People who do useful things with -2 hours till deadline with an undecided lynch are usually town.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 25 2014 00:42 GMT
#1295
On October 25 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 09:38 DrParnassus wrote:
I changed my mind about FF again, he's town. He's one of a few people doing useful things right now. People who do useful things with -2 hours till deadline with an undecided lynch are usually town.

I don't think I agree with that statement.


Well if he was mafia he could have just left his vote on a townie (me) and fucked off till deadline
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