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ok lovely, then I'll know not to take you seriously | ||
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That post only has slightly more useful information than MoonBear's. Lots of "suspicious" isn't really worth mentioning, you should be suspicious of everyone. Even "very suspicious" is pretty noncommittal for someone who's top on your scum list. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Wat---this is WAY more useful than MB---and considering you're voting for MB at the moment I'm not sure how you can only offer a bare distinction. If you're getting at semantics then forget the fact that he says suspicious a lot and look at who he specifically names as scum reads and in which order. Oh , the fact that Alaric actually came to conclusions is wonderful. I suppose it's more useful than I let on, but still, at it's core it's a big list post, which I tend to dislike. | ||
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Swaglord, what do you think of MB | ||
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On October 12 2014 10:04 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games. Do you have an actual scumread then, or are you just gonna continue saying "I hate policy lynches, but we probably should do one" over and over? | ||
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But listen guys - a quiet atmosphere is a scum atmosphere. The less discussion that occurs, the easier it is for scum to just walk around and do whatever they want. Mordek/Alzadar - do you still think 6ah is a worthy vote? Why? Would you want him dead over MoonBear? Do you have a scum read/reason for someone other than MoonBear? Same questions go for those voting Alzadar (6ah/Asmo) | ||
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On October 12 2014 22:57 WaveofShadow wrote: I would also like to note I may simply fallback to a Jeff lynch today. If he doesn't want to play he leaves my game. I still have no reason to believe he's scum. I understand policy lynches, but we learn nothing from lynching jeff today. If he flips green, then we killed an apathetic town, sure, we get rid of a useless appendage. If he flips red, then woohoo, but I've got a feeling that won't happen. You accused him, you "pressured" him, and he reacted pretty much the way I (and probably you) thought he would. He's disinterested in the game, which sucks, but I don't see red in his motives, just an angsty teen. | ||
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On October 12 2014 23:45 WaveofShadow wrote: It's not on the principle that he's Jeff. Read what I wrote. If he is not actively helping solve the game, there are two possibilities (I am not considering 3P for now): a) he is town, and by not helping us actively solve the game he is a massive question mark looming over our heads all game---we won't know what alignment he is and it makes it real easy for scum to keep him alive forever because there will be the possibility of him being mislynched/fucking us over at LYLO (look up what LYLO means) b) He is scum and by not contributing he is scum. Either way, not playing the game does not do us any good, and by removing him we remove a massive question mark that may affect us negatively down the road. I don't think I said anywhere that I'm going to lynch him today, only that I see it is a possibility. What I don't like is how so many people are just willing to let his behaviour slide. I'm with you on the possibility. I misunderstood and thought you were leaning towards a Jeff vote. But talk to me. You said you liked my post on MoonBear (and hated that you liked it). Any reason you're not more interested in looking to him for your vote? | ||
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I'm trying to look at the voting patterns. I don't think Swaglord is scum. He comes back with a big list post, but as far as list posts go, there was more than 0 content. Req makes an ok analysis and puts his vote on LT. Alright, cool, I'm glad Req started playing. A few hours later, a bandwagon has started and I'm not entirely sure why. LT, I'm not really convinced on mordek either. He looks as bandwagony as Jeff (albeit with a bit more post content), just on different vote targets. MoonBear's "defense" has left me very unsatisfied. | ||
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On October 13 2014 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Or ever. Plz LT. My reasoning is fucking ironclad but you did something recently to give me pause. On October 13 2014 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm having trouble with it honestly. My top 3 are between MB/Tolkien for first right now, then Asmo in 3rd. Asmo's posting has improved since the first one that made me call him out, but I've caught people on first/single posts before (and have also been wrong before as well) and I'd be super annoyed if I let that go and turned out to be right on him. Tolkien I could see getting lynched as town and not giving too many fucks as it is now, and MB's attitude is just....weird. Like I can't tell if he truly believes that the way he's been playing is satisfactory and is pretty content just to consistently shit on me/townplay without being helpful to the town itself---at the very least I think Req sort of realized some of the issues with his play (whether that in itself is towny or scummy is probably discussion for another day) I don't feel a strong pull to one over another right now, certainly not strong enough to try to push the town towards one or the other. Hmm actually I just thought of something. Think it'll be Tolkien for me right now. ##Vote: Lord Tolkien Yeah, you sound super confident in that vote. | ||
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On October 13 2014 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote: No, I expect you to do more. If you think that latest post was a buddying attempt you're sorely mistaken. The bolded is exactly why I don't think he's scum either, but pre-flip association IS a bit dangerous so I can't discount it completely. Essentially my reasoning on LT is the fact that the wagons at the time were him and MB...LT then unvotes MB...as scum there is absolutely ZERO reason to do that if MB is town and you can pull off a mislynch. MB could still be scum but I have other reasons to believe he may not be and I'm not sure I want to force the issue. What do you mean you don't want to force the issue?? YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR VOTE PLACED. You have no idea who you want to lynch, you're completely undecided and clearly having issues figuring it out (I know, this D1 is especially hard). You tell me to do more? No, you push the issue. I'm content with my vote on MoonBear. And I wasn't talking about you last post being buddy buddy. It's a general trend in your posting this game. | ||
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I was fairly certain I was on the right track, especially when the Swaglord bandwagon got some steam. But now the dust is settling and MB has a bunch of votes. I'm not as certain as I was before. | ||
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On October 13 2014 07:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Starting to see things my way, hmm? Ketchup has a point in that if we think MB is town, AND we don't think we can lynch scum today we should dump votes on a modkill because losing two towns would be terrible. it's not that I'm seeing it your way, I thought I was correct at the time and it's not that I don't think he's scum, but if he's gonna get modkilled anyway i'd rather not waste the lynch if he hasn't shown up by the time this league game is done I'll switch off him | ||
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