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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:33 GMT
#2850
On October 14 2014 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
i would have switched off hopeles yesterday and made a cluster fuck of the day today

Sure, or maybe not.

Don't care.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:39 GMT
#2858
On October 14 2014 00:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Looking at the votes slam and store would be good lynches because they didn't vote on obi.

And what happens when you pick the wrong one?

hint: we lose.

or well, I guess we get one more shot of perfectly lynching mafia tomorrow and poisoner the day after that (in that order, wrong order, and we lose).
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:40 GMT
#2860
Like I don't know why this is so hard. Do you guys not know what mylo means?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:46 GMT
#2867
On October 14 2014 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
we have power roles jesus fuck you are useless

Sure, a vigi and an unclaimed tracker or veteran or cop or something sounds about right. Maybe cop who has copped mostly nothing but people who have gotten killed, or tracker like that, or something.

Like it's just wifom.

If you're somehow telling the truth, we have vigi/roleblocker/medic. 4 blues is waaaayy op, so why the fuck would the host bother including a framer in the setup? Maybe to fuck with us, who knows? It's just as pointless as you claiming you must be blue because none have flipped and only one has claimed.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:49 GMT
#2872
On October 14 2014 00:43 KelsierSC wrote:
You have to walk me through how it is mlyo here


Assume we mislynch today (definition of mylo).

It's 6v1v1 today.

tonight (after ml) we'll be at 5v1v1.

Poisoner kill goes through, Mafia kill goes through. Poisoner submits a new kill.

tomorrow we'll be at 3v1v1

Even if we lynch the poisoner tomorrow, we lose. as we'll go to 3v1, followed by 1v1 (assuming again poisoner and mafia don't shoot each other).

So if we mislynch today, we have to 100% lynch mafia tomorrow (we can't lynch poisoner, as his kill is already submitted) and we then have to lynch poisoner the following day. So yes, there's a chance with perfect lynches in perfect order that this won't be mylo. But it's far safer to assume we're in mylo.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:52 GMT
#2877
On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner?

Yes, if he flips poisoner, that instantly gives us a free mislynch (we'll be at 4v1 tomorrow). And tbh, him overreacting (to the point he wanted to lynch me) for me suggesting a medic should just claim, suggests that he probably knows there is no medic, so I'm pretty sure he will flip 3p.

Like if I was town and in his situation I'd tell the medic to just fucking claim so we can clear shit up and "clear" 2 people.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:54 GMT
#2880
On October 14 2014 00:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Why is hf poisoner, because he didn't die n1? Sorry i cabt really backtrack the thread atn.

Because hopeless said so. Hopeless has no reason to lie there, it is almost 100% likely mafia hit holyflare on n1.

So my guess is hopeless got mad that hf rekt him and claimed in spite.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 15:56 GMT
#2884
On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner?

In fact because in all likelihood he is.

Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen.


We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target.

Why not?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:01 GMT
#2891
On October 14 2014 00:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Sorry palmar, you want to lynch hf on the basis that mafia said he was 3p

and because he reacted to you asking for medic.

you said hf was actually really towny.


but lynching storr or slam is too risky.

I'm trying to understand this but


I don't get what you don't understand. Do you think it's a bad idea for a medic who may have been on HF on night 1 to claim?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:05 GMT
#2894
On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner?

In fact because in all likelihood he is.

Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen.


We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target.

Why not?


Because I think he's town and I've given all of the reasons as to why this is. We are not lynching him because "3p looks town so HF might be scum for looking town."


Not why I'm lynching him. That simply explains how it adds up that someone can look town and yet not be town. I want to lynch him because there's no evidence we have a medic, because he completely overreacted to me suggesting a medic should claim and save his ass (like even if it's not the smartest move, we're basically going to treat him as town if he was indeed protected), and because mafia basically claimed to have shot him night 1.


On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare is not the poisoner and he most certainly isn't mafia. I am not lynching him and anyone voting him is claiming scum.

I am going to work. I will be back a few hours before deadline.


Anyone voting him is claiming having a brain. Like there's two people voting him right now and we can't both be scum? So your theory is already awful.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:05 GMT
#2896
On October 14 2014 01:03 KelsierSC wrote:
Is it possible mafia stakced with grak and killed oats n1?

Would you have shot Oats as scum n1 this game?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:08 GMT
#2900
On October 14 2014 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:01 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Sorry palmar, you want to lynch hf on the basis that mafia said he was 3p

and because he reacted to you asking for medic.

you said hf was actually really towny.


but lynching storr or slam is too risky.

I'm trying to understand this but


I don't get what you don't understand. Do you think it's a bad idea for a medic who may have been on HF on night 1 to claim?


absolutely because not only is that fucking retarded when he could save us and win the game instead of being at mylo tomorrow but killing me as a claimed rb'er who has done nothing but kill mafia would be absolutely retarded, instead of all this arguing why don't you tell us who mafia is and it's not damdred who was pushed by mafia all game long

Maybe Slam? He seems pretty happy that I'm focusing you and more than willing to jump on board. Although tbh maybe he simply has a brain.

It's not Kelsier at least, which was your option. Did you read the last few pages?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:18 GMT
#2915
On October 14 2014 01:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:05 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner?

In fact because in all likelihood he is.

Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen.


We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target.

Why not?


Because I think he's town and I've given all of the reasons as to why this is. We are not lynching him because "3p looks town so HF might be scum for looking town."


Not why I'm lynching him. That simply explains how it adds up that someone can look town and yet not be town. I want to lynch him because there's no evidence we have a medic, because he completely overreacted to me suggesting a medic should claim and save his ass (like even if it's not the smartest move, we're basically going to treat him as town if he was indeed protected), and because mafia basically claimed to have shot him night 1.


On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare is not the poisoner and he most certainly isn't mafia. I am not lynching him and anyone voting him is claiming scum.

I am going to work. I will be back a few hours before deadline.


Anyone voting him is claiming having a brain. Like there's two people voting him right now and we can't both be scum? So your theory is already awful.


if you say it's mylo why do you want the MEDIC to claim instead of just any other blue that would confirm that no medic probably exists, is it because you know there's a medic alive and you want him to be sniped?


I'm more than ok with any blue claims today. It's mylo, I already explained

On October 14 2014 01:09 Holyflare wrote:
if i'm shot n1 and poisoner i lose my vest, if mafia know im poisoner like you apparently somehow think they do why didn't they soot me yesterday!!?!? it's because it's a giant pile of wifom crap you are trying to push and useless and i haven't played like a poisoner at all and you haven't even read the game to know that


This is obviously bullshit. Mafia 100% thinks you're the poisoner, or at least that you could be poisoner. If they were sure you're town, they would've used the chance to shoot you last night because if they think you're a townie with medic protection, you couldn't have been saved that night and that window would be great for shooting you. Maybe they like the fact you can kill townies for them, who knows?

On October 14 2014 01:09 Holyflare wrote:
here i am pushing kelsier who actually probably adds up to being mafia or poisoner and you're trying to divert it off of him because "no he looks to town" and onto me because "hf looks too town and mafia said he's poisoner", ...........???


Accusing me of not reading the game while calling Kelsier scum is like.... so bad. Like he is genuinely trying to understand things here. He's very much town.



Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:18 GMT
#2916
On October 14 2014 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude!

Kelsier the mafia is between you and me

Palmar, what happens if we lynch mafia today?

Best possible outcome.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:23 GMT
#2929
On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He believed I had a red check on mafia
He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame
He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed
He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy
He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi


5 reasons he's mafia (and mafia specifically)

On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's probably poisoner if anything


So clearly he's poisoner?

HF, you ok?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:24 GMT
#2930
On October 14 2014 01:22 StorrZerg wrote:
there is 0 point focusing on psner today.

We lynch mafia today, don't give a fuck about 3rd party.

with that, palmar is being destructive.
+ i think his anger towards grack bad vig shots is fake.
leaning palmar today


Anger?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:24 GMT
#2931
And please elaborate on destructive StorrZerg. Explain in detail how I am being destructive today.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:29 GMT
#2936
On October 14 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
Tries to kill Holyflare but then says he should get a 100% pass??? [✔]


You have a problem with that? Like if the magical medic appears and claims to have protected you night 1, should I then instead start thinking you're mafia?

If it isn't likely you're poisoner, there is literally 0% chance you're scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:29 GMT
#2937
On October 14 2014 01:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He believed I had a red check on mafia
He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame
He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed
He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy
He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi


5 reasons he's mafia (and mafia specifically)

On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's probably poisoner if anything


So clearly he's poisoner?

HF, you ok?


the way he got irrate at me and fought me calling him scummy looked very much like he was "able to show how towny" he had been but it was in such a weird way that it looked much more like a poisoner than mafia, pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1

So if I think he's town you're clearly poisoner!

CHECKMATE.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 13 2014 16:32 GMT
#2942
On October 14 2014 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:28 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He believed I had a red check on mafia
He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame
He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed
He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy
He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi


5 reasons he's mafia (and mafia specifically)

On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's probably poisoner if anything


So clearly he's poisoner?

HF, you ok?


the way he got irrate at me and fought me calling him scummy looked very much like he was "able to show how towny" he had been but it was in such a weird way that it looked much more like a poisoner than mafia, pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1

So if I think he's town you're clearly poisoner!

CHECKMATE.


that doesn't make any sense whatsoever?


...

pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1


If he's town, you're pushing poisoner agenda.
Computer says mafia
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