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Hopeless1der
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Hopeless1der
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On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote: Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while. because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference. In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go? | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 09 2014 11:12 batsnacks wrote: What do you think your scummiest post is? this one | ||
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top of my head is lian and kelsier for bitching about RNG for soooo long. Going to re-read though, try to get something out of any discussions that were actually around OO (as opposed to him being RNG'd). | ||
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On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote: then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation. liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1. hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire" yet dives on at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk. i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this. Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here" I dont see how any of this is scummy tbh. I'd argue my nonchalant vote on OO is more likely town than scum because it would be expected that I try to divert the lynch, no? And am I expected to bounce questions off of an afk OO? Just because I have a scumread on lian doesnt mean I'm so confident I'll try to derail a policy lynch on someone literally not playing the game. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening. My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now. | ||
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On October 10 2014 00:57 Damdred wrote: Also didn't see if you answered this hopeless could you go intno it I didn't yet, my thoughts are that there was never really an alternative wagon. wtf were scum doing if not trying to get someone else lynched? Either nothing at all, or trying to stop the lynch itself without putting another one in its place. So bitching about RNG for days seems like a good way maybe save OO without actually trying to save OO. On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point. and my vote on lynched scum for no other reason than shits and giggles. totes scumplayz | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: No, but I can give you scumpoints for being a useless sack of scum. Question: why is it that you intervened in the Holyflare/me fight, just to show no interest in ever fixing it or following up on it? You basically poured fuel on the flames earlier in the game and then left it alone completely. You've never shown any interest in figuring out what was going on in that fight. fixing or following up on what exactly? why is it my responsibility to fix your shit? I didnt pour fuel on anything I was trying to get opinions from you to make holyflare shut up or explain "reason=filter" | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You came to the conclusion that HF was town for no reason, despite him confusing the shit out of you early day 1, and you have yet to explain where either of those reads went or why. It has nothing to do with "fixing my shit" but it has everything to do with coming in, showing interest in moving the fight forward, and then doing absolutely nothing with it at all. You pushed him to explain his read on me and then never bothered to do anything with anything. This is what normal mafia players would call "instigating." What if the bolded is why he's town? | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote: @Hopeless, do you think Obi's push on you makes him mafia? tbh feels townie. Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town. | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: TLDR: I am looking for easy targets so I will buddy up to HF despite thinking he was scum early on day 1. Qed. You show me where I actually scumread HF, go ahead. | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote: Where did my post go? Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote: And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 10 2014 01:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It doesn't matter if you thought he was actually scum or not, but the issue is that when a player confuses you or looks scummy or whatever, you go after them and ask them questions and try to figure them out. You never, ever did this. The points behind the motivations of your HF/Obi interaction are still superscum and you have yet to explain them away at all. I see no reason to ever move my vote, and if the others have any sense, they will sheep me to glorious victory. GLORIOUS VICTORY, COMRADES. Player=HolyFlare I assert that your argument falls to pieces. I have nothing to explain here. | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote: If you already answered this sorry but Was there something specific that HF said d1 that made you say wtf? I'm trying to think of what would make you say wtf if you're auto-town reading someone. All I remember HF doing d1 was sort of pressuring oats early then staying on OO for the rest of the day. What kelsier just said, +his narration of Oats (i didnt comment on this) + refusing to look at lian's atrocious reads + making up reasons that OO is scum. This was actually a huge point against HF at the time in my head, but I'll be damned if I say anything before OO flips town. | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:52 batsnacks wrote: So? HF gets into fights like that every game and obi was pretty scummy, plus last game obi played perfect scum and fooled everyone and his posting d1 this game was similar. That's not very "wtf" to me. I saw logical flaws in what HF was pushing and pointed them out...thats basically all that happened. | ||
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