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Love you to bats | ||
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@Kel I can understand that. @Bats Storr shouldn't be his scum read, hes actually putting some effort into the game and early on made a decent case about lian and tried to push it. No way scum storr does that early, he has not been lurky and has been involved and gives his thoughts basically whenever he asks. Palmar is not sure, hes probably third party. I'm town so yea | ||
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On October 10 2014 00:44 Palmar wrote: I'm going to read hopeless and obi at some point today. Might read damdred too, he's a good shot to be scum. You wound me Palmar | ||
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On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote: that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian? right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening. My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now. Could you talk more about the two that are bolded when you can. | ||
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On October 09 2014 12:30 Damdred wrote: When hopeless gets back could you answer what changed inbetween wanting to lynch myself and Lian near eod towards lian and kel for bitching? Also didn't see if you answered this hopeless could you go intno it | ||
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To start On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote: I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that. Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people. We see lian give Oats a townread for no reason at all in this post, in fact people who know Oats and have played with Oats are giving it serious thought that his over reaction is due to being scum read for something that he should not of been, over reacting is normally not in Oats but he did it here and very forcefully. Nothing he posted until he came back later was towny in the least, his town pass for Oats feels almost like TMI. At the same time, he discredits or throws doubt on the people that are pressuring or starting to scum read Oats. On October 07 2014 01:21 liancourt wrote: I see you claiming him as defensive and questioning his joke claim. You didnt need to scum read him. You were like the catalyst others did it for you. he points the discrediting at Bats specifically here throwing doubt on Bats, when bats did something that was really towny for him. He makes a few posts that I won't quote for length that somehow try to throw dirt on bats for not having a towny mindset but I think most of bats posts up to this point have been pretty towny. On October 07 2014 02:55 liancourt wrote: Never like lottery type things so I ll pass on the RNG lynch. I want to choose my own lynchee. In reverse logic theres a 78 percent chance to kill a town than a mafia so its against the odds. And besides you cant question lynch votes that were RNGed. They will just say oh it was random so it doesnt have any meaning to it. Unreadable. Also there is a possibility that people will keep posting until they get the number they want. So there is a wayto abuse it Lian really fights against the rng lynch, which looks really bad in hindsite of course, and a lot of his filter early is fighting against or throwing dirt/scumreading BH for his choice of the RNG lynch explaining that it is mafia favored.... Funny since we caught mafia (All hail rng lynch). He did not even consider that the person that it targeted just peaced out and the reaction that he had to it, it's almost like Lian tried to get the pressure off OO even before it started and tried to discredit the method. On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote: At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also. Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null. And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting. We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread. The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this. Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles. Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats. I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing. Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this. His scum list also, or rather his null list with random people. Everything he writes he can come off of fast. Later on he says that he is using elimination method to get to his scum reads. But hes not really there are plenty of people playing on the fringe that should be grouped in the scum group. And all of his reads are easy to come off of there are no real conclusions and even though he mentions OO as scummy he refuses to push him or any of his lynch. Instead he just puts them there almost as if hes soft pushing them and then leaves it alone even though he receives a bit of pressure from storr from it. Even though some of the people on his list have been doing things, his reads do not show much progression and he has not given much additional thought into them. He also discredits grack, and tries to throw dirt on the vig claim. Which makes little sense doing so. Overall I think hes the most scummy person in the thread, all of his reads are pretty thin and easy to come off of in pressure. His top scum reads were basically and are lurkers besides Storr who is actually doing stuff. Palmar is somewhat doing things he looks like his normal self and me. A lot of what he does is to discredit people and he does not pressure people, and looks like some of his stuff comes from TMI. Overall i'd say lynch him with fire (sorry for the rushed post running out of time) | ||
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Obi is town though so you guys be nice to him | ||
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I have a good bit of experience with Obi, he can correct me but I think we've played 5-8 games together. I know you do not like looking at other games to give yourself a bench mark about how to read your scum. However if you would look at Storm Mafia 2 (obi was scum), 2p2 (Obi was scum) his day one lurkiness was there, however he did nothing in those games to really bring attention to himself he brought attention to himself here. When he did get pressured as scum he retreated or made little comments without doing much else. here he sat around the whole time he was attacked and bantered back and forth and actually showed that he cared and honestly argued and fought his way out of his lynch today. And He looks really towny today in the way hes pressuring people and talking to him. Overall I think hes town. Theres a small chance that Obi could be scum in some universe that i'm not part of but I think until he does something stupid or claims scum hes town. | ||
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On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote: OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote: yeah i'll probably end up here anyways ##Vote: ObviousOne On October 08 2014 01:41 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm under no obligation to avoid policy lynches. Yells for bats to get the policy lynch to stop, reads like (correct me if i'm wrong) that you disagree with lurker lynch really. But jump on it anyway. Feels like a bus. I could probably see Hopeless being scum, filter is a lot of fluff, some contradictions not a lot of reads really, or flushed out reads. I'd probably put him as scum. | ||
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I've pressured people asked questions nd did a case. So not as unless slyly make out. Why he you singing? And in not ignoring you blazing up respond in depth when i hit a comp or better signl | ||
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However if you want make a case on me atm you need to revisit my filter. I didn't reread stores case before i did mine so if theirs overlay my apologies had more to st but ran out of time. However i think their are different views invite cases that hedge same conclusions | ||
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