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On October 08 2014 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
his original scum reads were based on good reasons, people siding on the rng wagon and then doing nothing which he's subsequently updated and poe'd people down to those 3/4
No that's going against his philosophy of how to play mafia. So reads are not alignment indicative.
His struggle on oo alignment is fake as shit too. He doesn't want to pressure because rng, yet is content to call oo strange. How is that a mafia read. As town he shouldn't care about the rng factor concerning oo if he thinks that bh is likely town. Or even null since rng from bh isn't alignment indicative. Thus his caution on oo seems trumped up and fake.
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On October 08 2014 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote oo
I tshink this is the pretty clear choice for today.
On October 08 2014 02:07 Alakaslam wrote:
I don't care at this point ObviousOne gets a lynch
fantastic then you 2 won't mind at all giving your insight on my case against liancourt
and your thoughts about HF regarding how he responded to my case.
since you have nothing better to do
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On October 08 2014 02:19 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 08 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
i literally do not care what you say i am not lynching him today over OO OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it On October 06 2014 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job! I'm at work I think Liam is town
why, please explain
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On October 08 2014 02:27 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 02:24 StorrZerg wrote:On October 08 2014 02:19 batsnacks wrote:On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 08 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
i literally do not care what you say i am not lynching him today over OO OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it On October 06 2014 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job! I'm at work I think Liam is town why, please explain New people on this site get free town reads from me If you want a better explanation I'll be around for serious later
yes i'd like a better reason than policy
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batsnacks is probably my least favorite person on this site
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On October 08 2014 05:12 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 02:58 KelsierSC wrote:On October 08 2014 01:42 Holyflare wrote:On October 08 2014 01:40 KelsierSC wrote:
@bh i don't think anyone is seriously considering oo for the lynch because of the rng but because of his lurkiness and bad posts.
my main thing about lian is that he used this as his reason to lynch stor/dam over oo which just felt off to me.
@hf you seem to be defending lian for the same reasons you attacked obi. Lian hasn't really given concrete reads just gave everyone a null/weird and then said he would lynch inactives.
what makes lian different to obi ? lian has pushed things as scummy and made reads that make sense from someone that hasn't played with bh before and has posted thoughts on pretty much everything that has happened in the game whereas obi said he was reading, posted no thoughts about anything and then just tried to stop the bh scum reading nonsense while commenting on nothing relevant I agree he has been a part of a lot of the discussion but the end result is a lot of null reads and the strongest he can be on someone is that they are weird. He thinks OO is scummy which is great, who doesn't, but wanted to lynch stor/dama over him because he didnt want to follow RNG, even though at the time it was quite clear no one gave a fuck about the RNG anymore. did you read the big post from obi, what do you think of him now? It seems like a pattern here you have to put stamps on everything. Town stamp Null stamp Scum stamp People don't seem to be satisfied if I don't use one of these stamps. I'm giving my honest opinion in most of the discussions whether or not I strongly feel about them. The only discussion I felt strongly about was the one with BH and I was pushing him for scum hard, you guys don't think this is relevant because you got this prejudice/stereotype of BH's RNG as not "alignment indicative" and just flatly ignore the whole discussion as null. Yea if you just ignore that whole segment I'm so unsure of everything and I can't pressure anyone.
I see your pressure against BH as meaningless, since it could be done regardless of your alignment since you have made it apparent that you don't like to lynch via RNG. Hence you could push bh, regardless of your alignment, since its policy form your standpoint.
Also your stance to vote OO is why? "na nanna boo boo see i can vote ?"
I mean OO is afk. big woop?
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On October 08 2014 05:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 05:26 KelsierSC wrote:
@Palmar
Can you give your views on the Grak/HF/Obi interaction. Nope, haven't read any of it.
should we just policy lynch you for failure to play the game at this point?
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I feel palmars activity level could be higher along with his insight to the game, leaning town on him.
why? how he town read me, how he followed up with the read.
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On October 08 2014 06:04 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 05:44 StorrZerg wrote:On October 08 2014 05:12 liancourt wrote:On October 08 2014 02:58 KelsierSC wrote:On October 08 2014 01:42 Holyflare wrote:On October 08 2014 01:40 KelsierSC wrote:
@bh i don't think anyone is seriously considering oo for the lynch because of the rng but because of his lurkiness and bad posts.
my main thing about lian is that he used this as his reason to lynch stor/dam over oo which just felt off to me.
@hf you seem to be defending lian for the same reasons you attacked obi. Lian hasn't really given concrete reads just gave everyone a null/weird and then said he would lynch inactives.
what makes lian different to obi ? lian has pushed things as scummy and made reads that make sense from someone that hasn't played with bh before and has posted thoughts on pretty much everything that has happened in the game whereas obi said he was reading, posted no thoughts about anything and then just tried to stop the bh scum reading nonsense while commenting on nothing relevant I agree he has been a part of a lot of the discussion but the end result is a lot of null reads and the strongest he can be on someone is that they are weird. He thinks OO is scummy which is great, who doesn't, but wanted to lynch stor/dama over him because he didnt want to follow RNG, even though at the time it was quite clear no one gave a fuck about the RNG anymore. did you read the big post from obi, what do you think of him now? It seems like a pattern here you have to put stamps on everything. Town stamp Null stamp Scum stamp People don't seem to be satisfied if I don't use one of these stamps. I'm giving my honest opinion in most of the discussions whether or not I strongly feel about them. The only discussion I felt strongly about was the one with BH and I was pushing him for scum hard, you guys don't think this is relevant because you got this prejudice/stereotype of BH's RNG as not "alignment indicative" and just flatly ignore the whole discussion as null. Yea if you just ignore that whole segment I'm so unsure of everything and I can't pressure anyone. I see your pressure against BH as meaningless, since it could be done regardless of your alignment since you have made it apparent that you don't like to lynch via RNG. Hence you could push bh, regardless of your alignment, since its policy form your standpoint. Also your stance to vote OO is why? "na nanna boo boo see i can vote ?" I mean OO is afk. big woop? Thought as much you just think my discussion was null because you think its null when it wasn't for me. So we let afkers off scott free? Is that your policy of disregarding everything but tunneling on one person and everything he does? Like I said I'm suspicious of low lyers and OO is one of them. And after reading BH's post which I have said were townie and his arguement against OO i agree with him so I voted OO. Let me ask you this. Are you going to give me your opinion on others or are you going to scrutinize me for everything I do and having an opposite stance on everything? It'd be nice if you gave opinions on others rather than just me. It doesn't give much info on you except for the fact that you are just tunneling me. And after I'm gone town is left with nothing but your filter full of you attacking me. So, your thoughts on others if you will or I might change your stamp to scum.
im sorry you all ready town read me you can't change your mind right now.
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@liancourt care to update your stance on Damdred
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On October 08 2014 06:18 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 05:44 Blazinghand wrote:
IMO, liancourt, I don't really care about liancourt's null or town reads, just who the scumreads are. if you could focus on, say, who you think is most likely to be scum (Besides OO of course) that would be awesome Well damd scum. Half his filter is filled with questions and only a select few really address some form of issue. It's like he's acting to try and seem active but when really he is on nobody's radar and is low lying. There isn't anything worth mentioning where he put out a genuine case to someone. He just pokes and pokes around. He doesn't follow on anything.
Could you go into more detail.
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On October 08 2014 06:30 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 06:04 StorrZerg wrote:
I feel palmars activity level could be higher along with his insight to the game, leaning town on him.
why? how he town read me, how he followed up with the read. on what grounds he hasnt posted anything of worth yet
are you ignoring the 15+ posts he has made in the past hour or something?
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Still waiting for oo to come in lol
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It's not a fun lynch if there is no kicking and screaming
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On October 08 2014 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
It seems like a lot of people are scum reading Lian just because they disagree with a lot of his logic. But there's actually a lot of townie things about his filter and he's putting a lot of effort into the game.
Why the priority on "logic" when i feel the majority of people that are reading him scum has to do with how he scum reads people, and that he is very wishy washy with reads, and is only really scum reading inactives.
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On October 08 2014 08:05 liancourt wrote:
@storr you still havent given your reads on anyone else but me. you seem to be lurking around what is it
I'll change my read on you from town to scum because you just flatly disregarded my request
are you really that self centered? i guess you are
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On October 08 2014 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 07:42 StorrZerg wrote:On October 08 2014 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
It seems like a lot of people are scum reading Lian just because they disagree with a lot of his logic. But there's actually a lot of townie things about his filter and he's putting a lot of effort into the game. Why the priority on "logic" when i feel the majority of people that are reading him scum has to do with how he scum reads people, and that he is very wishy washy with reads, and is only really scum reading inactives. new to the forum. 5 page filter already. Low content game. Enough said really. You don't like that he's pushing people for supporting RNG but I think theres genuine reason for why he's suspicious of people pushing RNG.
I'm not pushing him on logic, so why are you reading my case as logic based.
I'm saying his reason for not liking RNG is policy. It doesn't matter his alignment for not liking rng, since its policy form his stand point, and stuff like this tends to be "policy" for most people, like wanting to lynch inactives, wanting to lynch people who lie etc.
I don't like him because of how he is very non committal to his reads. He is leaving gaps to go back on or change his reads freely. How he was asked directly "tell me who you think are scum" and his response is to make a list post of town, and jot off oo as town, but strange then 2 inactives palmar/myself as "scummy" (policy) and damd for just asking questions.
it really bothers me that you are looking at the case, and why people think him as scum for the wrong reasons.
I think he is mafia for X reason, you say people read him as mafia for y reason. doesn't add up. i don't like you grack
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On October 08 2014 08:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah Storr I reread your case I'm not following the difference between your X and my Y. You're saying he's scum because he's scum reading all of the inactives. The reason he doesn't want to scum read OO is because he's suspicious of the people pushing RNG because his logic tells him that supporting RNG is scummy. For Lian pushing RNG is not just some policy BH likes to do it's something BH is doing this game to avoid contributing analysis and that Slam/I jumped on to for the same reason. In his mind that makes OO less scummy I guess.
the point is he isn't actually calling anyone scum...........................
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On October 08 2014 08:42 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 08:37 StorrZerg wrote:On October 08 2014 08:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah Storr I reread your case I'm not following the difference between your X and my Y. You're saying he's scum because he's scum reading all of the inactives. The reason he doesn't want to scum read OO is because he's suspicious of the people pushing RNG because his logic tells him that supporting RNG is scummy. For Lian pushing RNG is not just some policy BH likes to do it's something BH is doing this game to avoid contributing analysis and that Slam/I jumped on to for the same reason. In his mind that makes OO less scummy I guess. the point is he isn't actually calling anyone scum........................... He's trying to solve the game though. He goes through the thread and picks out the things that he finds alignment indicative and has come up with a bunch of town reads. He suspects the people who haven't been posting because he hasn't found reasons for them to be town. You may not like the way he's playing the game but it doesn't make him scum.
so tell me why you he voted OO.
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