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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:09 GMT
#139
On October 06 2014 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
anything that gets people talking is a legitimate strategy, nothing was even happening at the time

Again, you completely miss the point.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#140
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:19 GMT
#147
On October 06 2014 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
and you don't think what you're doing is inevitably a greater waste of time!?

no?
Im defending myself. GOOD
Im creating useful content. GOOD
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:19 GMT
#148
On October 06 2014 23:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok, so basically Oats is screaming because he got accused for making a joke, but now a lot more people are scum reading him as a result of this screaming.

I'm left wondering why he didn't just say it was a joke instead of getting super defensive.

because I thought it was really self-evident.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:20 GMT
#149
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:20 GMT
#150
No right?
Yes, im confirmed town.
Grack is up in the air.
But probably town.
HF latching onto this point is really weird and scummy.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:27 GMT
#153
On October 06 2014 23:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?

lol actually no. I would probably wait to see if something like this ends up happening.

I'm just saying because you're so insistent that what Batsnacks did was shit for finding mafia and then you argued that the first people to join the claim would be town. Which should actually make Batsnack's plan helpful as now you're town reading people for claiming.

Bat didnt know this though.
Which still makes his plan shitty. But lucky.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 14:28 GMT
#154
On October 06 2014 23:26 batsnacks wrote:
Oats if you are in fact "contributing" shouldn't you be thanking me? I did enable these "contributions" of yours. I feel like you're annoyed with me for allowing you to contribute.

Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early?

You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally.

What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 15:09 GMT
#161
On October 06 2014 23:34 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:26 batsnacks wrote:
Oats if you are in fact "contributing" shouldn't you be thanking me? I did enable these "contributions" of yours. I feel like you're annoyed with me for allowing you to contribute.

Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early?

You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally.

What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me?


I agreed with HF a lot last game and he was town. I'm agreeing with him this game already so, tentatively town.

I'm voting you because I think you're scummy.

Also lol at "accidentally"

You claimed on accident now?

The whole argument is not planned by you, therefore it's an accident.

Holy flare, there have been a grand total of 10 pages in this game. Why do you want me to come up with a page long sheet of nonsense? You only have one scumread. And all your reasons are weak as hell and based on your misunderstanding of the situation. The reason why I think that is scummy is because you are stuck in a mindset that is biased. You want to call me scum and are looking for reasons to back that up. Town would do it the other way around.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 15:09 GMT
#162
On October 06 2014 23:37 Damdred wrote:
When I first read the interchange I was pretty sure that it was a joke, but oats reactions throughout the rest of the thread is just weird. Oats why are you so defensive? I've never seen you play like this after getting called scum, you usually do not react at all just go on about your day, so whats up

Read the thread.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 06 2014 15:38 GMT
#166
On October 07 2014 00:16 batsnacks wrote:
Game didn't start on page 1

Bat traps too strong

I was guessing. Sue me.

Slam, bats is lucky because although his plan didn't produce his desired result or any result he would've expected, it produced something that isn't useless. So he unintentionally helped us. Which makes him lucky.
It isn't a very big point, I don't know why you guys keep harping about it
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 01:27 GMT
#375
Who's following the random lynch liancourt?

Batsnacks, I am utterly sorry for the abuse I heaped on you and your plan yesterday. I went on and on and on totally unreasonably. My bad. Your plan was fine.

Hf, I called grack probably town because he's the only other one that jokingly claimed.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 06:53 GMT
#511
The obi stuff is interesting. He doesn't defend himself in any meaningful, rational way. Just gets irrationally angry and hf and starts a fight. I would expect scum to not be so foolish and actually defend themself with better stuff.
Too bad to be scum is my current read.

Keilsar or whatever his name is is scummy for reasons.
So is oo.
I think there's definitely scum in the lurkers so lynching into there is fine. Liencourt never responded to my question
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 06:55 GMT
#512
Yeah that town read on obi completely doesn't make sense. Tmi?
Why doesn't Kelseir give a read on hf? Who knows.
Why didn't you Kelseir?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 07:28 GMT
#520
like this bit right?
I think Obi is quite clearly town, Since he got in the game he has been active and questioning Dama and Lian seems like the correct angle as both appear a bit scummy ( I read Dam as town but that is because I played with him before)
he seems to be reading the game the same way as me. Doesn't like the RNG nonsense and wants town to discuss something else. He seems genuinely pissed off with HF voting him out the blue.

How has he been questioning damdred and lian?
How is disliking the RNG nonsense townie?
How is he pissed off?
And how does this come together to make him totally totally town?
What do you disagree with HF/Grack?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 07:30 GMT
#523
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 07:46 GMT
#531
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 09:55 GMT
#552
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 10:50 GMT
#570
Yeah cool you changed my mind. Great job kelsier.

##unvote
Liancourt and oo might be scum.
Liancourt cause he has no scum reads other than "they did nothing"
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 17:07 GMT
#644
##vote oo
I tshink this is the pretty clear choice for today.
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