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On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.
Unimportant. fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday. If you want to change the subject thats fine [] talk about liancourt [] talk about hopeless [] other [insert topic] I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch. And I don't think I'm going to change my mind. then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation. liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1. hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire" yet dives on Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game. yeah i'll probably end up here anyways ##Vote: ObviousOne at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk. i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this. Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while. because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference. In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go? Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"
Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia.
As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes.
I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze.
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On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian?
right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening.
My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now.
Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point.
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What's funny is that we've all already went over that OO would straight up tell people to bus him.
So no, I'm not giving you any town points for voting someone who blatantly doesn't try and sets out to get himself killed on day 1. Try again.
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No, but I can give you scumpoints for being a useless sack of scum.
Question: why is it that you intervened in the Holyflare/me fight, just to show no interest in ever fixing it or following up on it? You basically poured fuel on the flames earlier in the game and then left it alone completely. You've never shown any interest in figuring out what was going on in that fight.
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On October 10 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No, but I can give you scumpoints for being a useless sack of scum.
Question: why is it that you intervened in the Holyflare/me fight, just to show no interest in ever fixing it or following up on it? You basically poured fuel on the flames earlier in the game and then left it alone completely. You've never shown any interest in figuring out what was going on in that fight. fixing or following up on what exactly? why is it my responsibility to fix your shit? I didnt pour fuel on anything I was trying to get opinions from you to make holyflare shut up or explain "reason=filter"
You came to the conclusion that HF was town for no reason, despite him confusing the shit out of you early day 1, and you have yet to explain where either of those reads went or why. It has nothing to do with "fixing my shit" but it has everything to do with coming in, showing interest in moving the fight forward, and then doing absolutely nothing with it at all.
You pushed him to explain his read on me and then never bothered to do anything with anything. This is what normal mafia players would call "instigating."
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Gtfo, no it's not.
You are so fucking scum it hurts my eyeballs. Get lynched, sucker.
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On October 10 2014 01:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Obi you didn't answer my question
I'm ignoring whatever it is because I'm sure it's not really important.
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On October 10 2014 01:27 Damdred wrote:
Obi, I wish that you would of played d1 like this, its magical seeing you play when you are motivated.
:D
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On October 10 2014 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote:
@Hopeless, do you think Obi's push on you makes him mafia? tbh feels townie. Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:27 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:24 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No, but I can give you scumpoints for being a useless sack of scum.
Question: why is it that you intervened in the Holyflare/me fight, just to show no interest in ever fixing it or following up on it? You basically poured fuel on the flames earlier in the game and then left it alone completely. You've never shown any interest in figuring out what was going on in that fight. fixing or following up on what exactly? why is it my responsibility to fix your shit? I didnt pour fuel on anything I was trying to get opinions from you to make holyflare shut up or explain "reason=filter" You came to the conclusion that HF was town for no reason, despite him confusing the shit out of you early day 1, and you have yet to explain where either of those reads went or why. It has nothing to do with "fixing my shit" but it has everything to do with coming in, showing interest in moving the fight forward, and then doing absolutely nothing with it at all. You pushed him to explain his read on me and then never bothered to do anything with anything. This is what normal mafia players would call "instigating." What if the bolded is why he's town? I don't understand Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town.
TLDR: I am looking for easy targets so I will buddy up to HF despite thinking he was scum early on day 1.
Qed.
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On October 10 2014 01:35 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote:
@Hopeless, do you think Obi's push on you makes him mafia? tbh feels townie. On October 10 2014 01:27 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:24 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No, but I can give you scumpoints for being a useless sack of scum.
Question: why is it that you intervened in the Holyflare/me fight, just to show no interest in ever fixing it or following up on it? You basically poured fuel on the flames earlier in the game and then left it alone completely. You've never shown any interest in figuring out what was going on in that fight. fixing or following up on what exactly? why is it my responsibility to fix your shit? I didnt pour fuel on anything I was trying to get opinions from you to make holyflare shut up or explain "reason=filter" You came to the conclusion that HF was town for no reason, despite him confusing the shit out of you early day 1, and you have yet to explain where either of those reads went or why. It has nothing to do with "fixing my shit" but it has everything to do with coming in, showing interest in moving the fight forward, and then doing absolutely nothing with it at all. You pushed him to explain his read on me and then never bothered to do anything with anything. This is what normal mafia players would call "instigating." What if the bolded is why he's town? I don't understand Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town. TLDR: I am looking for easy targets so I will buddy up to HF despite thinking he was scum early on day 1. Qed. You show me where I actually scumread HF, go ahead.
It doesn't matter if you thought he was actually scum or not, but the issue is that when a player confuses you or looks scummy or whatever, you go after them and ask them questions and try to figure them out. You never, ever did this. The points behind the motivations of your HF/Obi interaction are still superscum and you have yet to explain them away at all.
I see no reason to ever move my vote, and if the others have any sense, they will sheep me to glorious victory.
GLORIOUS VICTORY, COMRADES.
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On October 10 2014 01:46 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:35 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote:
@Hopeless, do you think Obi's push on you makes him mafia? tbh feels townie. On October 10 2014 01:27 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:24 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No, but I can give you scumpoints for being a useless sack of scum.
Question: why is it that you intervened in the Holyflare/me fight, just to show no interest in ever fixing it or following up on it? You basically poured fuel on the flames earlier in the game and then left it alone completely. You've never shown any interest in figuring out what was going on in that fight. fixing or following up on what exactly? why is it my responsibility to fix your shit? I didnt pour fuel on anything I was trying to get opinions from you to make holyflare shut up or explain "reason=filter" You came to the conclusion that HF was town for no reason, despite him confusing the shit out of you early day 1, and you have yet to explain where either of those reads went or why. It has nothing to do with "fixing my shit" but it has everything to do with coming in, showing interest in moving the fight forward, and then doing absolutely nothing with it at all. You pushed him to explain his read on me and then never bothered to do anything with anything. This is what normal mafia players would call "instigating." What if the bolded is why he's town? I don't understand Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town. TLDR: I am looking for easy targets so I will buddy up to HF despite thinking he was scum early on day 1. Qed. You show me where I actually scumread HF, go ahead. It doesn't matter if you thought he was actually scum or not, but the issue is that when a player confuses you or looks scummy or whatever, you go after them and ask them questions and try to figure them out. You never, ever did this. The points behind the motivations of your HF/Obi interaction are still superscum and you have yet to explain them away at all. I see no reason to ever move my vote, and if the others have any sense, they will sheep me to glorious victory. GLORIOUS VICTORY, COMRADES. Player=HolyFlare I assert that your argument falls to pieces. I have nothing to explain here.
Not really. Saying that Holyflare is town because it's easier than trying to read him is basically the epitome of making up reasons to townread someone.
So you're still scum and you still need to get lynched.
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On October 10 2014 01:52 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote:
Where did my post go?
Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head. If you already answered this sorry but Was there something specific that HF said d1 that made you say wtf? I'm trying to think of what would make you say wtf if you're auto-town reading someone. All I remember HF doing d1 was sort of pressuring oats early then staying on OO for the rest of the day. hf and obi had a fight So? HF gets into fights like that every game and obi was pretty scummy, plus last game obi played perfect scum and fooled everyone and his posting d1 this game was similar. That's not very "wtf" to me.
Earlier in day 1 you said my posting wasn't the same.
Now it was the same?
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On October 10 2014 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote:
Where did my post go?
Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head. If you already answered this sorry but Was there something specific that HF said d1 that made you say wtf? I'm trying to think of what would make you say wtf if you're auto-town reading someone. All I remember HF doing d1 was sort of pressuring oats early then staying on OO for the rest of the day. What kelsier just said, +his narration of Oats (i didnt comment on this) + refusing to look at lian's atrocious reads + making up reasons that OO is scum. This was actually a huge point against HF at the time in my head, but I'll be damned if I say anything before OO flips town.
So let me get this straight.
HF didn't want to kill Lian.
HF was making up reasons as to why OO was scum, in yet you voted with HF on OO anyway.
If OO flips town, then that means that you only speak against the lynch after it happens anyway.
Can we please lynch this guy already.
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On October 10 2014 01:56 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:52 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote:
Where did my post go?
Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head. If you already answered this sorry but Was there something specific that HF said d1 that made you say wtf? I'm trying to think of what would make you say wtf if you're auto-town reading someone. All I remember HF doing d1 was sort of pressuring oats early then staying on OO for the rest of the day. hf and obi had a fight So? HF gets into fights like that every game and obi was pretty scummy, plus last game obi played perfect scum and fooled everyone and his posting d1 this game was similar. That's not very "wtf" to me. Earlier in day 1 you said my posting wasn't the same. Now it was the same? No. You aren't even doing that thing where you randomly show up and say "Hello" "Sup"
Hello.
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On October 10 2014 01:59 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 10 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote:
Where did my post go?
Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head. If you already answered this sorry but Was there something specific that HF said d1 that made you say wtf? I'm trying to think of what would make you say wtf if you're auto-town reading someone. All I remember HF doing d1 was sort of pressuring oats early then staying on OO for the rest of the day. What kelsier just said, +his narration of Oats (i didnt comment on this) + refusing to look at lian's atrocious reads + making up reasons that OO is scum. This was actually a huge point against HF at the time in my head, but I'll be damned if I say anything before OO flips town. So let me get this straight. HF didn't want to kill Lian. HF was making up reasons as to why OO was scum, in yet you voted with HF on OO anyway. If OO flips town, then that means that you only speak against the lynch after it happens anyway. Can we please lynch this guy already. I didn't vote with HF, I voted with the power of RNGesus on my side. Ye of little faith, woe betide you.
Yeah, HF just happened to be on the vote that he made up reasons to be on anyway, according to you.
I love how you bussed your partner and gained absolutely nothing from it.
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FUCK HE GOT ME.
I BETTER IGNORE HIM IN CASE HE SHITS ON ME EVEN MORE
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On October 10 2014 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
What do you guys think about damdred/his case?
There is no chance I lynch anyone but Hopeless today.
Damdred is town though.
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There's merit to it.
A good case doesn't necessarily mean that the accused is mafia. It could just mean that the guy posting it is paying attention and trying to piece things together.
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On October 10 2014 02:15 batsnacks wrote:
Last I saw obi you wanted to lynch Liam at the start of the day, then you said he's "actually doing stuff." I don't really know how you feel about him.
That makes two of us.
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Good luck to him then, because he's got 4 votes on him.
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