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On September 26 2014 23:01 Palmar wrote: Killing's filter is quite awful too. I only have issue with one of his posts where he lists haru who had done nothing at the time in his town circle. Other than that i agreed with his summary list thing. What don't you like? Oh and his hopeless thing because fecal said it first but that could just be oversight. | ||
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In fact most of superbias reads are really superficial and sheeped (the bad kind with no extra thinking) and the fact he further calls fecal scum for reading sky as scum despite having sky as one of his own scum reads IS SUPER FUCKING SCUMMY | ||
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On September 27 2014 01:00 Holyflare wrote: Also the last I read of fecal I actually liked him so these people that are calling him scummy are super weird, superbia also called him scum because he didn't get called out....? In fact most of superbias reads are really superficial and sheeped (the bad kind with no extra thinking) and the fact he further calls fecal scum for reading sky as scum despite having sky as one of his own scum reads IS SUPER FUCKING SCUMMY Not to mention almost the entirety of his reads start to hinge on unflipped associations. | ||
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On September 27 2014 00:18 Superbia wrote: This is currently my world: Town: StorrZerg - I've explained it before and the read is still the same. A thousand bonus townpoints for backing off on SkyDragon. Storr is going to stay in my towncircle unless something changes d2+. Null (but special): batsnacks - His push on GB read town to me. But then he pushes on Sky which is really fucking easy at that point in time. He does instantly back off as soon as Storr does. This might just be scum trying to buddy up by sheeping Storr, which would mean that Sky is town. As such, I'm ready to put bats on my scum list if Sky flips town (which means I'm decently happy to lynch Sky today). Palmar - Palmar trying to take charge of town is scaring the shit out of me. Where was this Palmar last game? What changed? I like his Hopeless push, it's someone who I've felt might be scummy as well. But ugh. Does anyone have any information on Palmar's scumplay with links and shit? Because at this rate I'm never going to have a good read on him unless we lynch hopeless and he flips scum, which I'm not convinced about at this point in time. Palmar, what is your opinion on FF? Have you read what I've said about him? If so, what do you think? Scum: Fecalfeast - Read still the same, he hasn't done anything significant since I've given this read except go on Sky, which seems like a very fucking easy lynch/push at that point. The fact that no one else has pinged you out for this is also really weird. Scum should be on your fucking ass for this shit, but no one is. You're scum. SkyDragon (leaning) - You've been given some space, I'm expecting you to use this space before the EoD to come up with some good content. Failure to do so means I lynch you. Hopeless (leaning) - Palmar has given a decent push on hopeless already. His filter feels devoid of any kind of proactivity. Why are you fine with sitting back and just giving comments? Fucking do something (see below). I would also really like to see you start a push on someone. I'd prefer lynching FF and Sky (if he keeps lurking) over hopeless right now, but I think we have a somewhat decent shot of hitting scum here if we want to go down this path. At this point I would like a town/scum circle/list from the following people before EoD: - Hopeless1der - Glowingbear - ObiWanShinobi - HaruRH - FecalFeast - Batsnacks - justanothertownie - StorrZerg ##Vote: FecalFeast Just going to go out there and say this is almost the worst post in the thread. I said before and apparently superbia just criticised me for not reading it so I'll show you why it's ultimately terrible. First and foremost, his read on storr is so weird because it relies on storr stopping pushing on his scum read because a lot of pressure was on the scum read (many people have actually done this but superbia only focuses on storr here for no reason). Secondly, his null reads on Batsnacks and Palmar. Not only is his read on batsnacks super duper supppperrrr wishy washy it is ridiculous. He gives town points to storr for backing off on skydragon but then when batsnacks has supposedly posted towny things (in superbia's eyes) and then does the same thing as storr batsnacks could be scummy!?!?!? Not only that but then he further adds the scummiest thing ever in this paragraph that if skydragon flips town that batsnacks is scum. This is so uncalled for and makes so little sense that it screams scummy to me. His Palmar read is meh and he can't be bothered to research it for himself but it's not really anything to care about other than him only being able to trust palmar if hopeless flips mafia despite palmar pushing several people and not just hopeless. Now. Shit gets scummy. Not only does superbia scum read skydragon but throughout this entire post he has been saying people are scummy for scum reading and pressuring skydragon. Not only should this be contradictory to his own thought process but instead he should be determining the opposite reads, that the people pressuring his scum reads are more towny. Apparently just because he pressured sky when everyone else did fecal becomes somehow the scummiest out of EVERYONE in the game that did the same thing. Despite still scum reading sky. He also uses some crap about nobody calling him out for it which doesn't make any sense because what he has posted hasn't been too bad when I looked at it. Hopeless read is.... not really a read but w/e | ||
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On September 26 2014 09:38 Fecalfeast wrote: I really like batsnacks' post on GB, even if it is a little shallow with the 3rd person stuff. I was on SkyDragon's side until right about here. This post came out of left field and, especially in the context of his other posts, feels so wrong. I would have liked to give him the benefit of the doubt and lynch him day2 but his sudden switch from storr to bats was off, too. So three reasons listed why storr is suspicious and his biggest case was on storr originally yet he votes batsnacks So rather than vote someone you have real evidence on, you are voting for someone who wont respond to you? The guy who you have been scumreading all game literally called you out and voted for you yet you completely ignore him? ##vote: SkyDragon I haven't been playing much because I am moving house, I will be most active from 3pm-10pm PST ^ i like this post the most from fecal | ||
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On September 27 2014 01:35 Superbia wrote: HF, what the fuck dude. Read the fucking context (AND READ MY FILTER). I've explained before why I feel Storr is town, him backing off just adds to that. Bats is just like "yeah I guess we should back off like Storr said" (not exact quote) so no, he doesn't get fucking town points for that. Yeah, maybe my "skydragon flips town -> bats is probably scum" read is a bit extreme, but I don't think it's completely uncalled for here. Furthermore, it's for a later point in time anyway so I'm expecting to have a better read on bats then anyway. If plenty of people jump on a certain person after he's been read scummy by others, then that fucking stands out to me. Two worlds: Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard. Sky is scum -> Less information, not going to draw any hard conclusions from this. Stop wasting my fucking time dude, I don't have all the time and energy in the world. If you have questions fucking ask them, don't just start some shitty push on me because then I have to fucking walk through my entire thought process. Now I have to fucking go and my time could've been spent on something more productive. I'll be back before EoD. The red is just a flat out lie: StorrZerg gets a daypass for today! Reason is quite simple, I've seen Storr's scum game twice now (last game and watching mafia all-stars) and I'm pretty confident in identifying it (d2+). can't read till day 2 ^ On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote: Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days? Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch? ^ not considering today can read later Storr is scum: d1 he fools me, probably gets a misslynch. d2 I probably get a scumread on him and want to kill him. Storr is town: d1 gets a pass, d2 I probably read him as town this day and rest of all days to come. ^ he will fool you on day 1 and day 2 you can read him thennnnnnnnnnnnnnn Town: StorrZerg - I've explained it before and the read is still the same. A thousand bonus townpoints for backing off on SkyDragon. Storr is going to stay in my towncircle unless something changes d2+. magically your town read evolves out of nothing and he gets 1000 town points for doing something relatively straightforward but apparently you've already explained how he he is town and now you just get angry when I know your filter better than yourself The rest of your post is exactly what I was talking about before, you're living in a super world where sky flips town and making associations based on that despite him not flipping, yet, for some reason, the alternative isn't worth your time exploring despite being an easier thing to do. ESPECIALLY as you're scum reading sky so that should be the universe you are living in. | ||
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On September 27 2014 02:23 GlowingBear wrote: If I say, I'll make Haru self aware and he will use it as scum. I'd rather say I believe he is town because his last posts sounded townish. I haven't backed off when people said Haru is town. I backed off when I've got my own read from Haru, which is different from what HF did. God, I want to lynch you so hard. (Not God. You.) I still don't understand why you keep repeating this thing about me. Fully explain how it's scummy and what exactly you would have done when you made a case and then it was disproved by some evidence? | ||
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This is superbia's filter from his newbie game as town. Make any conclusions you wish. | ||
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On September 27 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote: I still don't understand why you keep repeating this thing about me. Fully explain how it's scummy and what exactly you would have done when you made a case and then it was disproved by some evidence? you're not escaping from this GB | ||
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On September 27 2014 02:36 GlowingBear wrote: I've seen you starting a strong case against a team mate and after some little time you backed off. It happened on the last game we were scum together. What people have brought was not evidence, was speculation. It was "I think he is lying" versus "I don't think he is lying". It's not strong enough to make someone say "you don't think he is lying? Ok I don't think he is lying either, then". Specially in the beginning of the game where it's easy to mafia to back up a partner with enough time to lead a mislynch to someone else. This is my explanation why it felt scummy. But the rest of your game started looking townish to me. The end. did you not read the thread at all?!?! I din't back off because of speculation. I pushed it when these people were saying that but then haru came in with his quote (evidence) that he meant blue!? On September 25 2014 08:42 HaruRH wrote: Yes. I didn't reveal i was blue yet at that point in the game. However, i obviously meant blue. | ||
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