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On September 27 2014 01:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:16 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 01:07 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2014 00:24 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Like why take my word for it, you can make your own decision, right?
Are you uncomfortable with continuing to push your scum read? I read that and have similar feelings as hopeless on other people. GB in particular. Fecal as well. GB doesn't have any opinions on Hopeless. He hardly responded to what I wrote, and seemed more inclined to agree with me. His only opinion was associative reads based on people sheeping me, which has nothing to do with Hopeless. And why do you think I'm uncomfortable pushing my read? I am literally doing just that. I'm encouraging you to read his filter and tell me why he's town. In fact I think this response, especially the part where you say you agree with GB's feelings on hopeless, which are summarized here: On September 26 2014 22:50 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:46 Palmar wrote:On September 26 2014 22:45 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:Because I can be wrong, HF. Because I saw a sudden shift to hopeless, not in votes, but on arguments. And there is a possibility it's town realisation, but I'm afraid, for how the switch to hopeless was fast, that it could be also mafia driven. I think it's okay to have doubts on it. Don't you have? Do you have any information I don't? How was there a sudden change at all? Palmar posted a case on like 3 ppl which we commented on and then he asked for hopeless read/comments And then people just said "hey, hopeless is scum lololol". This is the point I'm at. I'm analysing scenarios, HF. He can be scum, as I've already said, but it could be mafia driven. You think it couldn't? It's literally me and HF Which one of us is scum? Hell HF is being useless. This is Palmar driven. Do you think my logic is off? Do you disagree with what I wrote in that big post on hopeless? Nope, my phrasing was wrong. I think your case is legit but the following posts sheeping you may not be. I've already said HF is scummy IMO. Btw in his scum play it is just like him to read someone as scum and then shifting his opinion. He did it awkwardly (in the way I see) with Haru and now he did it with me. On September 26 2014 23:01 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote:Filters time: On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest. That's reading way too much into something obviously thrown out as a wild guess. Like you're just creating talking points here. On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.
I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work) Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information? Lol... HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me. Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read. That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction. Why is it shallow? It's not particularly well explained but it's a perfectly valid observation. It makes Glowingbear dumb, but if glowingbear is mafia this is not why. Like I don't understand the connection that because GB is saying something stupid, or far-fetched, that he must be mafia? On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.
I'm gone for now, see you all later.
This feels like commentary with no conclusion. What's up with his comment on me here? Unless he's trying to be funny I just don't understand what the point here is. I don't know. I'm getting literally zero townvibes from Hopeless this game. Between doing very little, only committing to a single read (GB = Scum), then attempting to bury GB for what is at best very slightly scummy, I'd say Hopeless is a pretty good scum candidate today. I'm gonna throw this out, then read some more filters and see what I come up with. Currently he's number 1 on my list. First two quotes you've brought is slight scummy because he is hard scum reading me for things that aren't really indicative. Third post makes him look useless because who the fuck cares for what SK people do as policy lynch? It's just him pretending to be contributive. And then pretend that this is a reason to disagree with my read on Hopeless... is actually quite scummy in itself. Palmar, I agreed with you. I just think lynching Haru is better. I'm confused o.O Srsly that's what I said. Just do as I say pls. pls don't argue, is all over, you can sleep now. Use the force GB, trust me.
Kthxbai
Btw, Haru's last posts looks like town Haru.
So
Yeah
Good night.
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Oh and pls, srsly consider JAT as a lynch candidate day2. He does not sound like town this time 
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On September 27 2014 01:26 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:24 StorrZerg wrote:I had given jat a lot of town credit off 1 post when he read me. So i decided to reread him since i couldn't remember anything else. i like most of what he is saying/pressure he is applying. save for this. On September 26 2014 21:55 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 21:53 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you voting hopeless jat? Not convinced that he is a better lynch than let's say Sky. Since he isn't here it wouldn't pressure him at all. while he is right that sky is the better lynch. Sky is absolutely a train wreck right now. Even if hopeless1der isn't exactly around, i feel the pressure is more just on hopeless right now from his point of view. Yes. Lets switch to sky now. We can leave gb for later, when i turn on my d2 power mode and lynch all scums
Srsly bulbasaur? I've just unvoted and that's what you give me?
I don't trust your solar beam, sry
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On September 27 2014 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
he practically told us sky will flip town and he'll start scum reading batsnacks anyway
That is not what he is saying in that paragraph and you know it
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On September 27 2014 01:35 Superbia wrote:
HF, what the fuck dude. Read the fucking context (AND READ MY FILTER). I've explained before why I feel Storr is town, him backing off just adds to that. Bats is just like "yeah I guess we should back off like Storr said" (not exact quote) so no, he doesn't get fucking town points for that. Yeah, maybe my "skydragon flips town -> bats is probably scum" read is a bit extreme, but I don't think it's completely uncalled for here. Furthermore, it's for a later point in time anyway so I'm expecting to have a better read on bats then anyway.
If plenty of people jump on a certain person after he's been read scummy by others, then that fucking stands out to me. Two worlds:
Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard.
Sky is scum -> Less information, not going to draw any hard conclusions from this.
Stop wasting my fucking time dude, I don't have all the time and energy in the world. If you have questions fucking ask them, don't just start some shitty push on me because then I have to fucking walk through my entire thought process. Now I have to fucking go and my time could've been spent on something more productive. I'll be back before EoD.
Cool down, watch your tone and admit that it is okay to a town to find that suspicious, because it is. I am conscious that town could have that kind of logic, but it is pretty wrong and the conclusion HF brought isn't bizarre.
I still don't like the way you townread storr and scumread bats for the same reason. It is the same reason to me.
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"Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard."
Also, this logic is way, way off.
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On September 27 2014 01:41 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
"Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard."
Also, this logic is way, way off. Ugh real quick then, why?
Because you simply can't tell if at least one scum is jumping in the wagon.
It could be pure town.
Here, you're basically saying that there is one scum and that scum is batsnacks, when you should say batsnacks is scum, therefore, there is 1 scum in that wagon.
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On September 27 2014 01:45 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:44 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 01:41 Superbia wrote:On September 27 2014 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
"Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard."
Also, this logic is way, way off. Ugh real quick then, why? Because you simply can't tell if at least one scum is jumping in the wagon. It could be pure town. Here, you're basically saying that there is one scum and that scum is batsnacks, when you should say batsnacks is scum, therefore, there is 1 scum in that wagon. K you're town. Dont use that shitty quote on your signature. Use this: Glowingbear, you're adorable.
❤ Bear hug??
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Tbh I'm starting to believe Superbia might be scum, I think it's good to check him day2
I'll probably not be available at EoD tho :/
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On September 27 2014 01:54 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:44 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 01:41 Superbia wrote:On September 27 2014 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
"Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard."
Also, this logic is way, way off. Ugh real quick then, why? Because you simply can't tell if at least one scum is jumping in the wagon. It could be pure town. Here, you're basically saying that there is one scum and that scum is batsnacks, when you should say batsnacks is scum, therefore, there is 1 scum in that wagon. This is just how I feel about it at the moment. I feel there is a high chance that a scum voted there and I'm happy to read it as such at this point in time. I made a similar read last game and I got shit for it as well. Guess what? I was right. If we lynch Sky we either hit scum or we (or at least I) get information from the push on him. Though at this point I would rather lynch Fecal because I have a much heavier scumread on him than I have on Sky. Now there are people in my room annoying me to go with them so now I'm really gone.
Being right on one game doesn't make you logic good, Superbia.
Your only arguments are that batsnacks is scum for quickly withdrawing his vote and that, as there is at least one scum in the wagon (which could not be true), batsnacks is the scum.
Doesn't sound good, really.
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On September 27 2014 01:55 Palmar wrote:
whatever you guys have my permission to fuck this day up.
Enjoy!
I'm out.
ps. Lynch hopeless because it's what jesus would do.
He is the main wagon, I presume.
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He is not.
Sky dragon is.
Hmm...
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On September 27 2014 02:01 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:17 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 01:15 HaruRH wrote:On September 27 2014 01:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:07 HaruRH wrote:On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead. He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish) Evidence 1.On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. "I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help" Evidence 2.On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF. Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason. Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options. for this post, palmar is town. People who played in fanfic would know why. can you explain why? he 'jokes' about hating policy lynches in fanfic when i called him out for loving policy lynches but stating he hates them in fanfic (he does this shit all the time) and now he isn't deciding on policy lynching me immediately. This feels town to me. LOL I totally rescind my read now that Haru is actually playing. This is town Haru. Hence why your push was terrible. You started pushing someone that was clearly busy. All you had to do was wait and see. If haru followed true, he would have been posting. After worlds with no pressure. Your push literally acomplished nothing. Your read is now based off haru being active now and playing. So bad
I haven't read him town for him being active, I read him town because his posts sounded townish. I have a good grasp of how haru sound as town and how he sounds as scum.
You're scum this game, storr, and I'll prove it soon enough
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Town circle is the stupidest idea in a mafia game, IMO
So misleading...
I'd love to kill killing.
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On September 27 2014 02:13 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Town circle is the stupidest idea in a mafia game, IMO
So misleading...
I'd love to kill killing. That's cause you're mafia. I'm ok with mafia trying to lynch me, it's part of the game.
Yeah, right.
"Hey people!!! Please tell me your town circles so I can have a grasp of how you're reading me and my mafia team mates."
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On September 27 2014 02:17 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:13 Killing wrote:On September 27 2014 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Town circle is the stupidest idea in a mafia game, IMO
So misleading...
I'd love to kill killing. That's cause you're mafia. I'm ok with mafia trying to lynch me, it's part of the game. Yeah, right. "Hey people!!! Please tell me your town circles so I can have a grasp of how you're reading me and my mafia team mates." That's possibly the dumbest thing I've read all day.
Probably also the best, because it's probably the only thing you have properly read in this thread.
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On September 27 2014 02:17 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:01 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:17 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 01:15 HaruRH wrote:On September 27 2014 01:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:07 HaruRH wrote:On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead. He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish) Evidence 1.On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. "I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help" Evidence 2.On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF. Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason. Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options. for this post, palmar is town. People who played in fanfic would know why. can you explain why? he 'jokes' about hating policy lynches in fanfic when i called him out for loving policy lynches but stating he hates them in fanfic (he does this shit all the time) and now he isn't deciding on policy lynching me immediately. This feels town to me. LOL I totally rescind my read now that Haru is actually playing. This is town Haru. Hence why your push was terrible. You started pushing someone that was clearly busy. All you had to do was wait and see. If haru followed true, he would have been posting. After worlds with no pressure. Your push literally acomplished nothing. Your read is now based off haru being active now and playing. So bad I haven't read him town for him being active, I read him town because his posts sounded townish. I have a good grasp of how haru sound as town and how he sounds as scum. You're scum this game, storr, and I'll prove it soon enough Must be really be really hard to explain your change of view on haru? ( explain what he did that makes you town read him) so yeah, I'm going to pull that read you used for hf mafia for failing to continue pressure on haru. Wait, hf actually backed off for a reason he said. You have not. Secondly must be a bitch as mafia when you try and lynch a confirmed town.
If I say, I'll make Haru self aware and he will use it as scum. I'd rather say I believe he is town because his last posts sounded townish.
I haven't backed off when people said Haru is town. I backed off when I've got my own read from Haru, which is different from what HF did.
God, I want to lynch you so hard. (Not God. You.)
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On September 27 2014 02:21 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:19 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:17 Killing wrote:On September 27 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:13 Killing wrote:On September 27 2014 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Town circle is the stupidest idea in a mafia game, IMO
So misleading...
I'd love to kill killing. That's cause you're mafia. I'm ok with mafia trying to lynch me, it's part of the game. Yeah, right. "Hey people!!! Please tell me your town circles so I can have a grasp of how you're reading me and my mafia team mates." That's possibly the dumbest thing I've read all day. Probably also the best, because it's probably the only thing you have properly read in this thread. I can read the first word of each post and still have better reads than you. How you feeling about that?
I feel that this is basically you saying that you know people's alignments even before reading their posts.
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On September 27 2014 02:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:35 Superbia wrote:
HF, what the fuck dude. Read the fucking context (AND READ MY FILTER). I've explained before why I feel Storr is town, him backing off just adds to that. Bats is just like "yeah I guess we should back off like Storr said" (not exact quote) so no, he doesn't get fucking town points for that. Yeah, maybe my "skydragon flips town -> bats is probably scum" read is a bit extreme, but I don't think it's completely uncalled for here. Furthermore, it's for a later point in time anyway so I'm expecting to have a better read on bats then anyway.
If plenty of people jump on a certain person after he's been read scummy by others, then that fucking stands out to me. Two worlds:
Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard.
Sky is scum -> Less information, not going to draw any hard conclusions from this.
Stop wasting my fucking time dude, I don't have all the time and energy in the world. If you have questions fucking ask them, don't just start some shitty push on me because then I have to fucking walk through my entire thought process. Now I have to fucking go and my time could've been spent on something more productive. I'll be back before EoD. The red is just a flat out lie: Show nested quote +
StorrZerg gets a daypass for today! Reason is quite simple, I've seen Storr's scum game twice now (last game and watching mafia all-stars) and I'm pretty confident in identifying it (d2+).
can't read till day 2 ^ Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?
Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch? ^ not considering today can read later Show nested quote +Storr is scum: d1 he fools me, probably gets a misslynch. d2 I probably get a scumread on him and want to kill him.
Storr is town: d1 gets a pass, d2 I probably read him as town this day and rest of all days to come. ^ he will fool you on day 1 and day 2 you can read him thennnnnnnnnnnnnnn Show nested quote +Town:
StorrZerg - I've explained it before and the read is still the same. A thousand bonus townpoints for backing off on SkyDragon. Storr is going to stay in my towncircle unless something changes d2+. magically your town read evolves out of nothing and he gets 1000 town points for doing something relatively straightforward but apparently you've already explained how he he is town and now you just get angry when I know your filter better than yourself The rest of your post is exactly what I was talking about before, you're living in a super world where sky flips town and making associations based on that despite him not flipping, yet, for some reason, the alternative isn't worth your time exploring despite being an easier thing to do. ESPECIALLY as you're scum reading sky so that should be the universe you are living in.
This case is actually very good.
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On September 27 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:17 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:01 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:17 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 01:15 HaruRH wrote:On September 27 2014 01:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:07 HaruRH wrote:On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:
There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead.
He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish)
Evidence 1.
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"I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help"
Evidence 2.
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Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason.
Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options. for this post, palmar is town. People who played in fanfic would know why. can you explain why? he 'jokes' about hating policy lynches in fanfic when i called him out for loving policy lynches but stating he hates them in fanfic (he does this shit all the time) and now he isn't deciding on policy lynching me immediately. This feels town to me. LOL I totally rescind my read now that Haru is actually playing. This is town Haru. Hence why your push was terrible. You started pushing someone that was clearly busy. All you had to do was wait and see. If haru followed true, he would have been posting. After worlds with no pressure. Your push literally acomplished nothing. Your read is now based off haru being active now and playing. So bad I haven't read him town for him being active, I read him town because his posts sounded townish. I have a good grasp of how haru sound as town and how he sounds as scum. You're scum this game, storr, and I'll prove it soon enough Must be really be really hard to explain your change of view on haru? ( explain what he did that makes you town read him) so yeah, I'm going to pull that read you used for hf mafia for failing to continue pressure on haru. Wait, hf actually backed off for a reason he said. You have not. Secondly must be a bitch as mafia when you try and lynch a confirmed town. If I say, I'll make Haru self aware and he will use it as scum. I'd rather say I believe he is town because his last posts sounded townish. I haven't backed off when people said Haru is town. I backed off when I've got my own read from Haru, which is different from what HF did. God, I want to lynch you so hard. (Not God. You.) I still don't understand why you keep repeating this thing about me. Fully explain how it's scummy and what exactly you would have done when you made a case and then it was disproved by some evidence?
HF I'm not sure about you alignment anymore as I am starting to see you more townish. I am just showing Storr that my back off on Haru is completely different from yours. I'm not calling you scum for that anymore.
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