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On September 26 2014 19:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 15:38 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:I like batsnacks like 10x more now and I DO agree with his case. However, with the reaction skydragon started displaying right after i'm getting the unflipped association that sky might be mafia and gb town  Could you explain this? Sure. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote:
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that. This post. Sky disregards the entirety of batsnacks long posts about GB in like 1 or 2 sentences even though the case was pretty good. The bolded just seemed super weird in context because it's like "hey can't you see this guy is blatantly doing this!" when in actual fact he isn't really and it just seemed he knew GB's motives better than anyone else in the game did.
This is not him disregarding bats post, it's him believing bats is wrong.
The actual fact is yes, I was clearly doing that, and I said so. But people are for ing a mislynch on me anyway, and it was working
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JAT maybe scum or holyflower
Still deciding between storr, hopeless and batsnacks
I can't tell exactly why now
I have a great fear hope will flip town
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On September 26 2014 21:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 21:57 GlowingBear wrote:
JAT maybe scum or holyflower
Still deciding between storr, hopeless and batsnacks
I can't tell exactly why now
I have a great fear hope will flip town ................................. how are you reads so wildly different from almost EVERYONE in the game?!
Because if almost everyone in the game has the same reads, something is wrong.
People easily dropped their scum read on me to push in JAT, specially after palmar said I was town for something you had enough time to understand from me.
This can be just mafia saying "ok we can mislynch GB tomorrow because he is bad, lets shift for someone else"
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On September 26 2014 22:23 Holyflare wrote:You make absolutely 0 comment on hopeless So why is it scummy if people have stopped pushing you if you are town and going after someone you think is quite possibly scummy!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Because I can be wrong, HF. Because I saw a sudden shift to hopeless, not in votes, but on arguments. And there is a possibility it's town realisation, but I'm afraid, for how the switch to hopeless was fast, that it could be also mafia driven. I think it's okay to have doubts on it. Don't you have? Do you have any information I don't?
I'd rather lynch Haru today. (1) he just dropped a vote on me and left (2) lurks the entire day one without being confirmed town and (3) says he is busy because he is in LOL world, and this is bad because (i) he can use his phone to do some more posting between games, (ii) if he is busy, why he took the time to take a photo and post it here just to prove he is busy? (Like BH saying he is moving) and (iii) LOL sucks
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On September 26 2014 22:37 Palmar wrote:
Haru is a stupid policy lynch.
Hopeless is far more likely to be successful.
Why is it a policy lynch and why is it stupid?
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On September 26 2014 22:41 Holyflare wrote:
I think i posted myself and a lol event in wembley when i was town just to appease ppl rather than post stuff so not particularly convincing
I'll call it bullshit everytime someone says he isn't playing because he is busy, but takes the time to prove he is busy instead of actually playing.
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On September 26 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +Because I can be wrong, HF. Because I saw a sudden shift to hopeless, not in votes, but on arguments. And there is a possibility it's town realisation, but I'm afraid, for how the switch to hopeless was fast, that it could be also mafia driven. I think it's okay to have doubts on it. Don't you have? Do you have any information I don't? How was there a sudden change at all? Palmar posted a case on like 3 ppl which we commented on and then he asked for hopeless read/comments
And then people just said "hey, hopeless is scum lololol".
This is the point I'm at.
I'm analysing scenarios, HF. He can be scum, as I've already said, but it could be mafia driven.
You think it couldn't?
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On September 26 2014 22:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 22:45 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:Because I can be wrong, HF. Because I saw a sudden shift to hopeless, not in votes, but on arguments. And there is a possibility it's town realisation, but I'm afraid, for how the switch to hopeless was fast, that it could be also mafia driven. I think it's okay to have doubts on it. Don't you have? Do you have any information I don't? How was there a sudden change at all? Palmar posted a case on like 3 ppl which we commented on and then he asked for hopeless read/comments And then people just said "hey, hopeless is scum lololol". This is the point I'm at. I'm analysing scenarios, HF. He can be scum, as I've already said, but it could be mafia driven. You think it couldn't? It's literally me and HF Which one of us is scum? Hell HF is being useless. This is Palmar driven. Do you think my logic is off? Do you disagree with what I wrote in that big post on hopeless?
Nope, my phrasing was wrong. I think your case is legit but the following posts sheeping you may not be.
I've already said HF is scummy IMO. Btw in his scum play it is just like him to read someone as scum and then shifting his opinion. He did it awkwardly (in the way I see) with Haru and now he did it with me.
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On September 26 2014 22:48 Palmar wrote:
you're like this close to have your permission to have opinions revoked GB.
HAHAHAHA ok.
I'm just posting what I think. It's up to you to evaluate if I'm right or wrong because I was incapable of leading town anyway.
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On September 26 2014 22:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 22:50 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:46 Palmar wrote:On September 26 2014 22:45 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:Because I can be wrong, HF. Because I saw a sudden shift to hopeless, not in votes, but on arguments. And there is a possibility it's town realisation, but I'm afraid, for how the switch to hopeless was fast, that it could be also mafia driven. I think it's okay to have doubts on it. Don't you have? Do you have any information I don't? How was there a sudden change at all? Palmar posted a case on like 3 ppl which we commented on and then he asked for hopeless read/comments And then people just said "hey, hopeless is scum lololol". This is the point I'm at. I'm analysing scenarios, HF. He can be scum, as I've already said, but it could be mafia driven. You think it couldn't? It's literally me and HF Which one of us is scum? Hell HF is being useless. This is Palmar driven. Do you think my logic is off? Do you disagree with what I wrote in that big post on hopeless? Nope, my phrasing was wrong. I think your case is legit but the following posts sheeping you may not be. I've already said HF is scummy IMO. Btw in his scum play it is just like him to read someone as scum and then shifting his opinion. He did it awkwardly (in the way I see) with Haru and now he did it with me. Who sheeps and who doesn't sheep has nothing to do with the validity of the case. Either you think I'm right on hopeless or wrong. Go figure out which one you think I am. When you've realized that I'm more likely to be right, vote him.
Yes, it has. A well written case on a townie from a townie is a gift to mafia. I would totally sheep you if I were mafia.
I'll re read the case and tell you what I think
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On September 26 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote:Filters time: Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest. That's reading way too much into something obviously thrown out as a wild guess. Like you're just creating talking points here. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.
I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work) Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information? Lol... HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me. Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read. That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction. Why is it shallow? It's not particularly well explained but it's a perfectly valid observation. It makes Glowingbear dumb, but if glowingbear is mafia this is not why. Like I don't understand the connection that because GB is saying something stupid, or far-fetched, that he must be mafia? Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.
I'm gone for now, see you all later.
This feels like commentary with no conclusion. What's up with his comment on me here? Unless he's trying to be funny I just don't understand what the point here is. I don't know. I'm getting literally zero townvibes from Hopeless this game. Between doing very little, only committing to a single read (GB = Scum), then attempting to bury GB for what is at best very slightly scummy, I'd say Hopeless is a pretty good scum candidate today. I'm gonna throw this out, then read some more filters and see what I come up with. Currently he's number 1 on my list.
First two quotes you've brought is slight scummy because he is hard scum reading me for things that aren't really indicative.
Third post makes him look useless because who the fuck cares for what SK people do as policy lynch? It's just him pretending to be contributive.
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On September 26 2014 22:54 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 22:51 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:48 Palmar wrote:
you're like this close to have your permission to have opinions revoked GB. HAHAHAHA ok. I'm just posting what I think. It's up to you to evaluate if I'm right or wrong because I was incapable of leading town anyway. If you allow yourself to think like this, all mafia has to do if one of their scumbuddies is being voted is to bus the fuck out of him, and you will defend him because "the wagon might be mafia driven" Trust me, I understand what you're trying to do, but it's generally a terrible idea to judge someone's alignment on the actions of others. For example, JAT and HF say I might be right on Hopeless. That doesn't say anything about Hopeless. Only Hopeless posts as Hopeless, and thus only posts made by Hopeless should be used to evaluate Hopeless. All I did was draw attention to him in order for you to read him. You cannot judge Hopeless' alignment based on what HF does. HF could be bussing, HF could be jumping easy town lynch, HF could be town and agree with me, and HF could be town and wrong. There's literally nothing you can know about Hopeless based on what HF does, simply because HF is not Hopeless, they're different people.
You're right palmar.
I'm convinced.
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I forgot about killing too and I think he is playing very close to hopeless style
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Can we lynch killing, please? His argument on palmar is retarded
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I want to lynch Haru. I've already give reasons why. Now, there's possible scum not wanting to lynch Haru. I want to lynch Haru. Lets lynch Haru.
##Vote: Haru
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Storr, it's not a pressure vote, it is a kill vote because, again, Haru is back giving reasons why he is busy and not actually playing the game.
Haru, bbylicious, this is nawt scumbear talking, dis is towniebear
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On September 27 2014 01:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 00:24 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Like why take my word for it, you can make your own decision, right?
Are you uncomfortable with continuing to push your scum read? I read that and have similar feelings as hopeless on other people. GB in particular. Fecal as well. GB doesn't have any opinions on Hopeless. He hardly responded to what I wrote, and seemed more inclined to agree with me. His only opinion was associative reads based on people sheeping me, which has nothing to do with Hopeless. And why do you think I'm uncomfortable pushing my read? I am literally doing just that. I'm encouraging you to read his filter and tell me why he's town. In fact I think this response, especially the part where you say you agree with GB's feelings on hopeless, which are summarized here: Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 22:50 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:46 Palmar wrote:On September 26 2014 22:45 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:Because I can be wrong, HF. Because I saw a sudden shift to hopeless, not in votes, but on arguments. And there is a possibility it's town realisation, but I'm afraid, for how the switch to hopeless was fast, that it could be also mafia driven. I think it's okay to have doubts on it. Don't you have? Do you have any information I don't? How was there a sudden change at all? Palmar posted a case on like 3 ppl which we commented on and then he asked for hopeless read/comments And then people just said "hey, hopeless is scum lololol". This is the point I'm at. I'm analysing scenarios, HF. He can be scum, as I've already said, but it could be mafia driven. You think it couldn't? It's literally me and HF Which one of us is scum? Hell HF is being useless. This is Palmar driven. Do you think my logic is off? Do you disagree with what I wrote in that big post on hopeless? Nope, my phrasing was wrong. I think your case is legit but the following posts sheeping you may not be. I've already said HF is scummy IMO. Btw in his scum play it is just like him to read someone as scum and then shifting his opinion. He did it awkwardly (in the way I see) with Haru and now he did it with me. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 23:01 GlowingBear wrote:On September 26 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote:Filters time: On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest. That's reading way too much into something obviously thrown out as a wild guess. Like you're just creating talking points here. On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.
I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work) Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information? Lol... HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me. Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read. That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction. Why is it shallow? It's not particularly well explained but it's a perfectly valid observation. It makes Glowingbear dumb, but if glowingbear is mafia this is not why. Like I don't understand the connection that because GB is saying something stupid, or far-fetched, that he must be mafia? On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.
I'm gone for now, see you all later.
This feels like commentary with no conclusion. What's up with his comment on me here? Unless he's trying to be funny I just don't understand what the point here is. I don't know. I'm getting literally zero townvibes from Hopeless this game. Between doing very little, only committing to a single read (GB = Scum), then attempting to bury GB for what is at best very slightly scummy, I'd say Hopeless is a pretty good scum candidate today. I'm gonna throw this out, then read some more filters and see what I come up with. Currently he's number 1 on my list. First two quotes you've brought is slight scummy because he is hard scum reading me for things that aren't really indicative. Third post makes him look useless because who the fuck cares for what SK people do as policy lynch? It's just him pretending to be contributive. And then pretend that this is a reason to disagree with my read on Hopeless... is actually quite scummy in itself.
Palmar, I agreed with you. I just think lynching Haru is better.
I'm confused o.O
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On September 27 2014 01:15 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:07 HaruRH wrote:On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead. He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish) Evidence 1.On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. "I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help" Evidence 2.On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF. Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason. Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options. for this post, palmar is town. People who played in fanfic would know why. can you explain why? he 'jokes' about hating policy lynches in fanfic when i called him out for loving policy lynches but stating he hates them in fanfic (he does this shit all the time) and now he isn't deciding on policy lynching me immediately. This feels town to me.
LOL I totally rescind my read now that Haru is actually playing.
This is town Haru.
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