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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2014 22:43 GMT
#401
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2014 22:44 GMT
#402
I think I like Storr's request here as well. Mind starting a push on someone?
Minimal effort.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 25 2014 22:45 GMT
#403
serious note. you are being way to oblivious to what people are saying in the thread. You go scum on someone who town read me. I'm not sure why you didn't ask him to explain his read, instead its scummy.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 25 2014 22:53 GMT
#404
On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?


This is wrong :/ you should consider everyone.
I'm adorable.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 22:54 GMT
#405
On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?


Yeah, I'd be willing to take a gamble on him. I'd rather go for Storr though.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
September 25 2014 22:57 GMT
#406
All you need to win this game is a town circle of 7 (including yourself).

Killing
Storr
Superbia
HF
Haru
Hopeless

I personally think that's a strong town circle. Basically just need 1 more and game is easy rares especially since seer will probably come out with red or green on someone scummy tommorow. I really wanna hear reads from obi and bat.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 25 2014 23:00 GMT
#407
On September 26 2014 07:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?


This is wrong :/ you should consider everyone.


sorry baby girl. i'm just to town for you
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2014 23:01 GMT
#408
On September 26 2014 07:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?


This is wrong :/ you should consider everyone.


Can you explain why? This is how I see it:

Storr is scum: d1 he fools me, probably gets a misslynch. d2 I probably get a scumread on him and want to kill him.
Storr is town: d1 gets a pass, d2 I probably read him as town this day and rest of all days to come.

Worst case scenario we trade 1 townie for 1 scum, best case scenario I don't waste my time reading someone who is town on d1 and increase chances of hitting scum overall.

Keep in mind, this all is if I have no read on Storr d1, and I currently think he's likely town (I don't see any of his scum play).

Just give your opinion if you really think I'm doing something wrong here and let's move on. I'm not lynching storr today, end of story.
Minimal effort.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 25 2014 23:02 GMT
#409
On September 26 2014 07:54 SkyDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?


Yeah, I'd be willing to take a gamble on him. I'd rather go for Storr though.


ok so then push me. make a detailed read, quote some posts. explain why i'm scummy.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:02 GMT
#410
Seer is welcome to spy on me, I have nothing to hide.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2014 23:03 GMT
#411
On September 26 2014 08:02 SkyDragon wrote:
Seer is welcome to spy on me, I have nothing to hide.


???
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2014 23:04 GMT
#412
What is this WIFOM garbage.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2014 23:04 GMT
#413
On September 26 2014 07:57 Killing wrote:
All you need to win this game is a town circle of 7 (including yourself).

Killing
Storr
Superbia
HF
Haru
Hopeless

I personally think that's a strong town circle. Basically just need 1 more and game is easy rares especially since seer will probably come out with red or green on someone scummy tommorow. I really wanna hear reads from obi and bat.


How are you reading hopeless town?
Minimal effort.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 25 2014 23:12 GMT
#414
On September 26 2014 08:02 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:54 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?


Yeah, I'd be willing to take a gamble on him. I'd rather go for Storr though.


ok so then push me. make a detailed read, quote some posts. explain why i'm scummy.


@SKYDRAGON

seriously stop dodging
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 25 2014 23:14 GMT
#415
I'm not completely caught up yet but I still think GB is mafiawolf.

On September 25 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Storr is mafia because of this:

This post stinks:

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On September 25 2014 09:20 StorrZerg wrote:
(1) i'd lynch fecal for the donkey entrance to the game.

the overly troll attitude fecal has with the caps locks, and insta vote on holy is really throwing off scum vibes. Deff would lynch.


On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.

Lol I actually like your case holyflare


"yeah right"

Also i don't like the GB entrance to the game

On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.

Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now


(2)unless im missing a game he just played, last game he was scum. seems odd to lead with a lie.


(1) very has reason to call someone definetely scum. I did that no geript last game. There is nothing alignment indicative in fecal's entrance and that makes storr look bad.

(2) storr was scum with me and I clearly stated on the qt that I wanted to be town. I was mafia for 3 games and I wish I was town on this, which I am. I never lied.

The way he is disliking entrances looks like he is trying to pretend to be an aggressive town.

Also, he gives Haru free town pass for his entrance and also obiwan. None has alignment indicative posts.

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On September 25 2014 10:11 StorrZerg wrote:
obi probably town too.


I'm on a phone and I'm too lazy to search for the town pass on Haru now.

storr is my strongest scum read the moment


Here's his case on storr. He says storr is pretending to be aggressive town by disliking entrances. That is a weird thing to say. How can GB tell the difference between someone who is pretending to be aggressive town and someone who actually is aggressive town based on so few posts? Imo he can't and is just making stuff up.

He also scum reads storr for saying someone is "definitely" mafia and says he said the exact same thing as scum last game. Well, look at this:

On September 25 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Naaaah. I'm positive storr is scum.
##Vote: Storr


He did it again this game.

I also think this post is scummy:

On September 25 2014 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.

Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.

I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work)


Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information?

Lol...

HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me.


Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read.

That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction.

btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.
I'm gone for now, see you all later.



It can be shallow, but at least I'm the only one trying to get people talking. Nothing is in the way of updating my reads the more people starts to talk. If you lynch me, you'll be lynching a townie for stupid reasons and you'll soon lose the game as much as you lost our last one


The "at least" in that sentence is really scummy to me. It's a tone thing. It's like he's really saying "I'm mafia but at least I'm the only one trying to get people talking." It's also scummy how he says he's the -only- person getting people talking. GB made a case against HF earlier for dropping his case against HaruRH. I'm not a mind reader but I think HF made that case to get people talking. So GB is scum reading HF for trying to get people talking -- while saying he, GB, is the only contributor in the thread.

I also think this post is scummy:

On September 25 2014 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok

Glowningbear's first scum team guess: Haru, HF, Storr

Gonna have dinner and give reasons


GB is referring to himself in the third person here in order to distance himself from his reads that he doesn't actually believe in. How can he be confident he's caught the whole scum team and solved the game? Later when he's drunk he posts this:

On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia


So now GB has found 4 mafia... HF is mafia for getting people talking with an early case, Haru is mafia for unflipped assosiations, storr is mafia because GB can tell somehow that storr is just pretending to be aggressive town, and JAT is mafia because ???


Speaking of reads, GB is frantic this game about "getting reads." He is addicted to reads and needs an intervention. He wants to convince us so badly that he is trying to get reads that he can not stop saying it:

On September 25 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
It won't help me getting reads if you use day1 just to charge your solar beam.


On September 25 2014 09:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Asking about holyflare's case to everyone is my way to get people talking and getting reads from them.


On September 25 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Why I think Haru is scum:

He doesn't want to talk much, not letting me getting reads:


On September 25 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Why not talking? He should be helping us with reads day1.


On September 25 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm done with the reads. I'm going to get ready for a party.


On September 25 2014 11:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Because I want people talking about people so I can get reads.


On September 25 2014 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Nothing is in the way of updating my reads the more people starts to talk.


On September 26 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Sorry, I'm guilty of getting people to talk to get my reads instead of immediately attacking both HF and hope.


On September 26 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
I think that is good to register and to get reads.


On September 26 2014 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Gut feelings VS actual reads. Actual reads won.


On September 26 2014 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
It could be totally wrong but at least I would get people talking more so I can have more reads


batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 25 2014 23:18 GMT
#416
Also this post is really scummy:

On September 26 2014 01:07 SkyDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.


"His" is correct. :p

d1 claimers got lynched depending on what they were saying.

- If they claimed to be Town with nothing to back it up, they were seen as suspicious and people would vote to lynch them if their play-style doesn't match.
- Throwing out names on the first day was seen as suspicious.
- Feigning ignorance of a particular role was suspicious unless he weren't very bright in the first place (As one guy did when he asked the Mod in the thread whether getting no pm means that you're a Villager - We straight away knew that he was trying it, lynched him and he turned out to be Mafia)
- Changing votes repeatedly was seen as suspicious.
- Normally active players who become quiet were seen as suspicious.

There's no one answer to fit all situations really. There were also power roles so someone may have been saying something considered "weird" because they were the Seer, Doctor, Vigi or some other good role (And the last thing you want to do is get them lynched). There would be some hesitation to vote to lynch anyone on Day 1 but sometimes something is said that just doesn't feel right to several people.


It's a long post filled with info that makes zero conclusions about anything. Perfect mafia post. If I'm not voting GB today I'm voting skydragon.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
September 25 2014 23:21 GMT
#417
On September 26 2014 08:04 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:57 Killing wrote:
All you need to win this game is a town circle of 7 (including yourself).

Killing
Storr
Superbia
HF
Haru
Hopeless

I personally think that's a strong town circle. Basically just need 1 more and game is easy rares especially since seer will probably come out with red or green on someone scummy tommorow. I really wanna hear reads from obi and bat.


How are you reading hopeless town?


Yolo read off of one post, although I like what else he has said. He's my weakest town atm but at least when I read his posts I thought he was town.

On September 25 2014 11:40 SkyDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 11:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ugh, this SkyDragon guy is making me super fucking paranoid.

Who puts so much emphasis on their newness besides mafia? Posts like that are going to make sure nobody listens to you.


I'm just being honest, mate. Didn't realize that it would make you paranoid, lol. The truth of the matter is that I'm leaning on you being more Town than most others because of the paranoia. I mean, what Mafia member goes crazy paranoid over what alignment someone may have? You could be feigning the paranoia but I don't think so.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
September 25 2014 23:22 GMT
#418
woops I quoted the wrong thing
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
September 25 2014 23:23 GMT
#419
On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.

Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.

I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work)


Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information?

Lol...

HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me.


This post basically said exactly what I was thinking at the time.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2014 23:25 GMT
#420
All right, fair enough. Going to read bats massive wall now. Still waiting on Sky.
Minimal effort.
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