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SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 22:27 GMT
#396
On September 26 2014 07:20 Superbia wrote:
Sky's read on Hopeless reinforces what I'm thinking right now. Like he has something to say about pretty much everyone's alignment (no matter how wishy-washy) besides hopeless and bats. Game solved?


What do you mean "Game solved"? I don't trust anybody on the first day so I'm suspicious of everyone until more information comes to light during later days.

I actually was going to put you in place of Hopeless there because of your lack of interaction over the last 24 hours but Hopeless seems more suspicious somehow.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 22:40 GMT
#399
Bats is suspicious to me to a certain degree because he disappeared from the thread (I believe it could be that if he's scum, he's trying to stay out of any arguments that could get him lynched). Hopeless seemed to have a lot of opinions at the start but now doesn't seem to have as many. Keeps ripping into GB's very valid points and his responses come off as a little weird to me.

With that said, you're in 4th place for me. You haven't really spoken in the thread but then bring out a list and start throwing opinions and accusations around. In my experience, scum sits in the shadows and then starts flinging opinions and orders about later on in the day to try and sway votes. The fact that you gave Storr a "daypass" makes me immediately more suspicious of you considering that he's been saying strange things from his very first post in this thread. I'd like to know why you think Storr isn't scum this game? (Even though he seems to, in your eyes, play in a particular way in previous games)
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 22:54 GMT
#405
On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?

Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch?


Yeah, I'd be willing to take a gamble on him. I'd rather go for Storr though.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:02 GMT
#410
Seer is welcome to spy on me, I have nothing to hide.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:28 GMT
#421
On September 26 2014 08:18 batsnacks wrote:
Also this post is really scummy:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 01:07 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.


"His" is correct. :p

d1 claimers got lynched depending on what they were saying.

- If they claimed to be Town with nothing to back it up, they were seen as suspicious and people would vote to lynch them if their play-style doesn't match.
- Throwing out names on the first day was seen as suspicious.
- Feigning ignorance of a particular role was suspicious unless he weren't very bright in the first place (As one guy did when he asked the Mod in the thread whether getting no pm means that you're a Villager - We straight away knew that he was trying it, lynched him and he turned out to be Mafia)
- Changing votes repeatedly was seen as suspicious.
- Normally active players who become quiet were seen as suspicious.

There's no one answer to fit all situations really. There were also power roles so someone may have been saying something considered "weird" because they were the Seer, Doctor, Vigi or some other good role (And the last thing you want to do is get them lynched). There would be some hesitation to vote to lynch anyone on Day 1 but sometimes something is said that just doesn't feel right to several people.


It's a long post filled with info that makes zero conclusions about anything. Perfect mafia post. If I'm not voting GB today I'm voting skydragon.


I'm finding a lot of this very disconcerting because I keep having to repeat myself. Bat, what do those comments have to do with this game? People have asked me questions (Off-topic questions as part of a separate conversation, but questions) and I have replied to them. Those replies are completely independent to the game and should not be used within the game. They are clearly a separate conversation (I thought that was obvious) and I just cannot fathom why people keep quoting them as if it somehow has any bearing or relevance to someone's alignment or what's happening in the game.

Did you even read what that was in response to?
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:32 GMT
#424
Clearly missing the point and grasping at straws. Clearly deflecting suspicion and trying to make other people look scummy so just letting you know that I've voted to lynch you.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:34 GMT
#425
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:36 GMT
#427
Oh, there's plenty to talk about. I just find it odd that you're now getting so vocal when a couple of us have started claiming that you may be scum. Coincidences are a funny thing but I don't believe in them.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:41 GMT
#429
Even if that is the case, why are you shutting the conversation down by saying that there's nothing to talk about?

Convince me that you are not scum then? Why are you avoiding the issue?
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:51 GMT
#434
So a post made in response to a question asking "why d1 claimers got lynched on SK" is "scummy"? Really? Jesus Christ.

And did you really just say that I have to convince myself that you're not scum? And how would I be able to do that? Please enlighten me.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:53 GMT
#437
On September 26 2014 08:50 batsnacks wrote:
You are definitely trying to distance yourself from your bad reads.


What bad reads? No-one is confirmed Town right now so there are no bad reads. Everyone's effectively guessing for the most part. We could all be talking bs at this stage.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:56 GMT
#441
On September 26 2014 08:53 batsnacks wrote:I guess you can't convince yourself I'm not scum if you're scum. Sorry I should have considered that.

I mean wolf.


You haven't said anything worthwhile. Just deflected, deflected and deflected.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:58 GMT
#445
On September 26 2014 08:55 StorrZerg wrote:
yep all ready confirmed right here.


Self-confirmation doesn't make it so.

In that case, I'm confirmed Town as well. Because I said so.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 25 2014 23:59 GMT
#447
On September 26 2014 08:56 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 08:56 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 26 2014 08:53 batsnacks wrote:I guess you can't convince yourself I'm not scum if you're scum. Sorry I should have considered that.

I mean wolf.


You haven't said anything worthwhile. Just deflected, deflected and deflected.


YOU CAN"T AVOID ME FOREVER

##VOTE SKYDRAGON


YES I CAN!
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 00:00 GMT
#448
Nah, but seriously, just give me a moment. I'll respond to you, Storr.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 00:12 GMT
#455
@Superbia - What you said is a non-issue to me. Storr was most suspicious to me anyway, and ObiWan became suspicious once Storr said that he's probably Town. I added Hopeless as third most suspicious before your comment about my read on Hopeless so it doesn't mean anything. I was going to call out Bats once Storr said to push someone but then he decided to make an appearance so I didn't have to.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 00:19 GMT
#462
I would say Bats at this stage. Storr just doesn't seem as suspicious to me anymore.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 00:30 GMT
#467
On September 26 2014 09:20 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:19 SkyDragon wrote:
I would say Bats at this stage. Storr just doesn't seem as suspicious to me anymore.


Why? Your main read on Storr was that he was aggressive (correct me if I'm wrong here), which he still very much is.


That's true. I was making my reply to him (Thoroughly checking his comments) but noticed that he generally became less aggressive as the game has continued. My main issues with him still are that

- He confirmed himself and insisted that he was Town in his very first post
- He started pointing fingers at FF and GB within minutes of his first post
- He stated that ObiWan was probably Town, even though the guy had barely said anything of relevance at that stage
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 00:33 GMT
#469
I still think he's suspicious though but am far more suspicious of Bat now simply because he refused to defend himself against my accusations.
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 00:36 GMT
#473
On September 26 2014 09:33 GlowingBear wrote:
The problem is not pointing fingers at me and FF. it is how he made it.


Agreed. I just simplified it. What I meant was what excuses/quotes he used to argue that you and FF were bad.
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