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On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead. He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish) Evidence 1.Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. "I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help" Evidence 2.Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF. Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason. Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options.
for this post, palmar is town. People who played in fanfic would know why.
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On September 26 2014 10:08 SkyDragon wrote:
Of course I was. You guys play differently to what I'm used to. Hell, pushing someone to prove that they're not scum like what happened to you wouldn't have resulted in your opponent deflecting it and insisting that I prove to myself that you're not scum. Like what? Who says that? Lol.
I read enough to know that anyone who starts going 'yea I'm a newbie, don't understand you guys etc' are scum trying to make themselves look tow.
Sky joins the wolf club.
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On September 25 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:Why I think Haru is scum: He doesn't want to talk much, not letting me getting reads: Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. Why not talking? He should be helping us with reads day1. Now, based on unflipped associations (WHICH IS BAD AND IT IS BEING CONSIDERED ONLY AS SECONDARY ARGUMENT): Haru and HF being scum make sense considering the bad case. HF makes a bad case on Haru which can be easily dropped off (like HF considered doing, "overlooking"), so he looks town for putting effort and Haru is no longer questioned after the case is dropped. Also, I can easily see Haru giving this idea on th mafia qt, presenting quotes to HF (this last one is EXTREME WIFOM, tho). Haru is my weakest read
oh yea, lynching your weakest read is the best idea ever good job
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On September 27 2014 01:11 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:07 HaruRH wrote:On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead. He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish) Evidence 1.On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. "I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help" Evidence 2.On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF. Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason. Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options. for this post, palmar is town. People who played in fanfic would know why. can you explain why?
he 'jokes' about hating policy lynches in fanfic when i called him out for loving policy lynches but stating he hates them in fanfic (he does this shit all the time) and now he isn't deciding on policy lynching me immediately. This feels town to me.
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On September 27 2014 01:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Storr, it's not a pressure vote, it is a kill vote because, again, Haru is back giving reasons why he is busy and not actually playing the game.
Haru, bbylicious, this is nawt scumbear talking, dis is towniebear
You can't be town if you're serious about lynching me bby
Now give me your wolf pelt
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On September 27 2014 01:24 StorrZerg wrote:I had given jat a lot of town credit off 1 post when he read me. So i decided to reread him since i couldn't remember anything else. i like most of what he is saying/pressure he is applying. save for this. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 21:55 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 21:53 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you voting hopeless jat? Not convinced that he is a better lynch than let's say Sky. Since he isn't here it wouldn't pressure him at all. while he is right that sky is the better lynch. Sky is absolutely a train wreck right now. Even if hopeless1der isn't exactly around, i feel the pressure is more just on hopeless right now from his point of view.
Yes.
Lets switch to sky now. We can leave gb for later, when i turn on my d2 power mode and lynch all scums
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On September 27 2014 01:29 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:26 HaruRH wrote:On September 27 2014 01:24 StorrZerg wrote:I had given jat a lot of town credit off 1 post when he read me. So i decided to reread him since i couldn't remember anything else. i like most of what he is saying/pressure he is applying. save for this. On September 26 2014 21:55 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 21:53 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you voting hopeless jat? Not convinced that he is a better lynch than let's say Sky. Since he isn't here it wouldn't pressure him at all. while he is right that sky is the better lynch. Sky is absolutely a train wreck right now. Even if hopeless1der isn't exactly around, i feel the pressure is more just on hopeless right now from his point of view. Yes. Lets switch to sky now. We can leave gb for later, when i turn on my d2 power mode and lynch all scums Srsly bulbasaur? I've just unvoted and that's what you give me? I don't trust your solar beam, sry
well, it worked for the games i tried it on, and i caught town and scum accurately. Like to 0.05mm accuracy.
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On September 27 2014 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
"Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard."
Also, this logic is way, way off.
Because as mafia, you wont immediately jump onto a wagon and it could be likely that theres no mafia on the wagon at all.
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On September 27 2014 01:44 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:41 Superbia wrote:On September 27 2014 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
"Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard."
Also, this logic is way, way off. Ugh real quick then, why? Because you simply can't tell if at least one scum is jumping in the wagon. It could be pure town. Here, you're basically saying that there is one scum and that scum is batsnacks, when you should say batsnacks is scum, therefore, there is 1 scum in that wagon.
K you're town.
Dont use that shitty quote on your signature. Use this:
Glowingbear, you're adorable.
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On September 27 2014 02:10 Killing wrote:
Haru what is your town/mafia circle?
I don't do these childish things in d1 LOL
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On September 27 2014 02:13 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 27 2014 02:10 Killing wrote:
Haru what is your town/mafia circle? I don't do these childish things in d1 LOL So you just pray that mafia gets lynched?
Why do you even need a list to lynch mafia? Is it some sort of restriction you set upon yourself? 'alright lets play this game with a handicap, where I only ever lynch in this arbitrary list I created'?
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On September 27 2014 02:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:30 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:17 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:01 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:17 GlowingBear wrote:
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LOL I totally rescind my read now that Haru is actually playing.
This is town Haru.
Hence why your push was terrible. You started pushing someone that was clearly busy. All you had to do was wait and see. If haru followed true, he would have been posting. After worlds with no pressure. Your push literally acomplished nothing. Your read is now based off haru being active now and playing. So bad I haven't read him town for him being active, I read him town because his posts sounded townish. I have a good grasp of how haru sound as town and how he sounds as scum. You're scum this game, storr, and I'll prove it soon enough Must be really be really hard to explain your change of view on haru? ( explain what he did that makes you town read him) so yeah, I'm going to pull that read you used for hf mafia for failing to continue pressure on haru. Wait, hf actually backed off for a reason he said. You have not. Secondly must be a bitch as mafia when you try and lynch a confirmed town. If I say, I'll make Haru self aware and he will use it as scum. I'd rather say I believe he is town because his last posts sounded townish. I haven't backed off when people said Haru is town. I backed off when I've got my own read from Haru, which is different from what HF did. God, I want to lynch you so hard. (Not God. You.) I still don't understand why you keep repeating this thing about me. Fully explain how it's scummy and what exactly you would have done when you made a case and then it was disproved by some evidence? you're not escaping from this GB I've seen you starting a strong case against a team mate and after some little time you backed off. It happened on the last game we were scum together. What people have brought was not evidence, was speculation. It was "I think he is lying" versus "I don't think he is lying". It's not strong enough to make someone say "you don't think he is lying? Ok I don't think he is lying either, then". Specially in the beginning of the game where it's easy to mafia to back up a partner with enough time to lead a mislynch to someone else. This is my explanation why it felt scummy. But the rest of your game started looking townish to me. The end. did you not read the thread at all?!?! I din't back off because of speculation. I pushed it when these people were saying that but then haru came in with his quote (evidence) that he meant blue!? On September 25 2014 08:42 HaruRH wrote:Yes. I didn't reveal i was blue yet at that point in the game. However, i obviously meant blue. HaruRH
09-21-2014
06:37 AM ET (US)
Meh.
Tired of blue roles.
6/11 blue in my games. Do you call this evidence??? REALLY??? Because mason is sooooooo different from vt
Yes it is very different.
Especially with an afk guy as your partner.
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On September 27 2014 04:23 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:19 Palmar wrote:
where the hell is your case on FF?
Btw, I started his filter, and he seems to have a pretty casual/joking attitude early game. Sure it's easy to fake as mafia, but I'm not sure it makes him one, but I'm only like 1/3 through. My first big post elaborates on his behaviour and how I feel he's being two contradictory things at the same time (confident and apologetic). After this post the only thing he does is join in on an easy push on Sky, which is very easy and just nothing. I feel like he isn't being proactive and he isn't trying to find scum. He can only get scummier if he actually hard claims mafia.
... youre claiming mafia right?
##Vote:superbia
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Right, everyone should switch to superbia now. He basically claimed scum.
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Let me break down why this is basically a mafia claim:
My first big post elaborates on his behaviour and 1)how I feel he's being two contradictory things at the same time (confident and apologetic). After this post the only thing he does is 2)join in on an easy push on Sky, which is very easy and just nothing. I feel like 3)he isn't being proactive and he isn't trying to find scum. He 4)can only get scummier if he actually hard claims mafia.
1) Being contradictory is not alignment indicative. Even your teacher contradicts himself sometimes.
2) Like what HF said, this hinges on the fact that sky is town. Perfect information.
3) Oddly enough, both superbia and fecalfeast have the same sized filter. I found more interesting and actual reads inside fecal's filter than superbia. + Show Spoiler +On September 26 2014 09:38 Fecalfeast wrote:I really like batsnacks' post on GB, even if it is a little shallow with the 3rd person stuff. I was on SkyDragon's side until right about here. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:02 SkyDragon wrote:
Seer is welcome to spy on me, I have nothing to hide. This post came out of left field and, especially in the context of his other posts, feels so wrong. I would have liked to give him the benefit of the doubt and lynch him day2 but his sudden switch from storr to bats was off, too. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 09:30 SkyDragon wrote:On September 26 2014 09:20 Superbia wrote:On September 26 2014 09:19 SkyDragon wrote:
I would say Bats at this stage. Storr just doesn't seem as suspicious to me anymore. Why? Your main read on Storr was that he was aggressive (correct me if I'm wrong here), which he still very much is. That's true. I was making my reply to him (Thoroughly checking his comments) but noticed that he generally became less aggressive as the game has continued. My main issues with him still are that - He confirmed himself and insisted that he was Town in his very first post - He started pointing fingers at FF and GB within minutes of his first post - He stated that ObiWan was probably Town, even though the guy had barely said anything of relevance at that stage So three reasons listed why storr is suspicious and his biggest case was on storr originally yet he votes batsnacks Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 09:33 SkyDragon wrote:
I still think he's suspicious though but am far more suspicious of Bat now simply because he refused to defend himself against my accusations. So rather than vote someone you have real evidence on, you are voting for someone who wont respond to you? The guy who you have been scumreading all game literally called you out and voted for you yet you completely ignore him? ##vote: SkyDragonI haven't been playing much because I am moving house, I will be most active from 3pm-10pm PST
4) So nothing else can get scummier? Superbia is just picking on the low hanging fruit at this point. Lynch without mercy.
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His 'reads' are basically list posts that I can also do to make myself the king of town. And you know how Haru likes list posts. not at all.
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On September 27 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
FecalFeast: Superbia
Skydragon:: Killing, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der:: Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie. ObiWanShinobi
superbia:: HaruRH
Killing:: Glowingbear
Alright, this vote count is more accurate than yamato's final vote count.
I am going to make some assumptions here:
1) You just have to accept that I am town.
2) Almost all wolf were on hopeless. It is NOT possible that all the wolf were superbia,killing storrZerg. However, there certainly is 1 or 2 wolf amongst these 3.
2 wolfies between:
Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie.
1 wolf between: Killing, storrZerg, superbia.
I distributed my wolfreads as such because 1) mafia always try to vote on the largest wagon to not feel left out. 2)at least/most 1 mafia would split off and vote some random player.
I am very certain that glowingbear was killed because he was right. There was no way they killed him for the lulz when there is HF,palmar, jat etc as town. He is also not overwhelmingly town. In fact, he smelt scum to me for a while.
His wolf reads were: killing, storrzerg, batsnacks
I am going to say that i too think killing was wolf. Not superbia.
I am also going to say that HF is maybe town. But i still need to see what he is going to do.
Therefore, my lynchlist for d2 is(in order of scumminess):
Killing
batsnacks
skydragon
I am still unsure of skydragon and less unsure of batsnacks, but i am quite sure of killing. Lets lynch him. It will reveal tons of info too even if he flip town.
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Why is killing wolf and why lynching killing gives tons of info:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 26 2014 23:26 Killing wrote:I woke up, here's my summary of what I've read overnight: -I believe obi is more town than previously. I've liked a lot of what he's said but I actually like this post the most. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 09:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Mind meld with GB.
Don't know if I like. I townread people off of retarded things. I'm actually prepared to add him to my town circle tbh. -Batsnacks argument with SkyDragon was really interesting to read but some of the parts read to me like someone that is low on content knowning they need to provide. I don't really know what it says about their alignment interaction (town-town, town-mafia). -I think SkyDragon or GB will be our best lynches today. SkyDragon because he's still been the scummiest to me with all the complaining and shit. It just feels like mafia getting mad that they are getting called mafia for the wrong reasons. -@HF: You're one of my strongest town atm. I like your town circle but below that I think you have shit messed up. -PALMAR FUCKING MAD THAT HIS TEAM IS LOSING SO HE'S TRYING TO MAKE A CASE ON HOPELESS. I also think he's mad that my town circle is god tier amazing so he's trying to lynch me. When I roll town, I just assume everything I'm doing is right so when people go against me, I'm always highly suspicious that I'm just about to truck mafia and they are getting mad at about it. -I don't know if you guys get mad when vts tell the seer who they think they should check but I think palmar is a really great check. He had unsubstantiated reads at the start of the day who ended up being scum read and then he backed off of them and I believe that now he's trying to start a BW onto hopeless when his partners are under fire. Other than that, I also think GB would be a good check. A lot of people are trying to kill him ( including myself), if he flips mafia then good stuff and if he flips town, I think that's also good info. IN B4 PALMAR STARTS YELLING AT ME great stuff can't wait Updated Reads: Town -Storr -HF -Haru -Obi -SuperBia -Hopeless (u mad palmar??????) Leaning -Fecal -Bat Neutral -JAT ( I don't know why he's neutral considering he's actually posted a lot. He's like when I read a reading for class and then you get to the end and realize that you literally didn't read a single thing and you'rel ke teh fuck where did the time go but it's ok you move on anyways no re-reading) Mafia -Sky -GB -Palamr Sorry if I troll too much, I think that's everything. I'll be around for a couple hours
He have been trying really hard to get gb lynched for the latter half of his filter. His reads on obiwan and HF were stupid. Townreading obi because of a dumb post, and townreading hf, whom people suspected for a non-reason?
also, you know how haru likes listpost. Not at all. In fact, I have realised that more mafia uses list post to add content to their filters than town.
Next, I don't like anyone who townread me on d1. It should be second nature to think I am scum if you played enough mafia. You could say I always purposely act like this d1 just to fish for reactions.
(wifom alert) Also, given how the person he wanted the seer to check died, it may be some sort of play to make seer useless for 1 more day since the seer just checked the person dead.
Either way, I have a real strong feeling killing is wolf.
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On September 27 2014 23:43 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 22:46 HaruRH wrote:Why is killing wolf and why lynching killing gives tons of info:+ Show Spoiler +On September 26 2014 23:26 Killing wrote:I woke up, here's my summary of what I've read overnight: -I believe obi is more town than previously. I've liked a lot of what he's said but I actually like this post the most. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 09:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Mind meld with GB.
Don't know if I like. I townread people off of retarded things. I'm actually prepared to add him to my town circle tbh. -Batsnacks argument with SkyDragon was really interesting to read but some of the parts read to me like someone that is low on content knowning they need to provide. I don't really know what it says about their alignment interaction (town-town, town-mafia). -I think SkyDragon or GB will be our best lynches today. SkyDragon because he's still been the scummiest to me with all the complaining and shit. It just feels like mafia getting mad that they are getting called mafia for the wrong reasons. -@HF: You're one of my strongest town atm. I like your town circle but below that I think you have shit messed up. -PALMAR FUCKING MAD THAT HIS TEAM IS LOSING SO HE'S TRYING TO MAKE A CASE ON HOPELESS. I also think he's mad that my town circle is god tier amazing so he's trying to lynch me. When I roll town, I just assume everything I'm doing is right so when people go against me, I'm always highly suspicious that I'm just about to truck mafia and they are getting mad at about it. -I don't know if you guys get mad when vts tell the seer who they think they should check but I think palmar is a really great check. He had unsubstantiated reads at the start of the day who ended up being scum read and then he backed off of them and I believe that now he's trying to start a BW onto hopeless when his partners are under fire. Other than that, I also think GB would be a good check. A lot of people are trying to kill him ( including myself), if he flips mafia then good stuff and if he flips town, I think that's also good info. IN B4 PALMAR STARTS YELLING AT ME great stuff can't wait Updated Reads: Town -Storr -HF -Haru -Obi -SuperBia -Hopeless (u mad palmar??????) Leaning -Fecal -Bat Neutral -JAT ( I don't know why he's neutral considering he's actually posted a lot. He's like when I read a reading for class and then you get to the end and realize that you literally didn't read a single thing and you'rel ke teh fuck where did the time go but it's ok you move on anyways no re-reading) Mafia -Sky -GB -Palamr Sorry if I troll too much, I think that's everything. I'll be around for a couple hours He have been trying really hard to get gb lynched for the latter half of his filter. His reads on obiwan and HF were stupid. Townreading obi because of a dumb post, and townreading hf, whom people suspected for a non-reason? also, you know how haru likes listpost. Not at all. In fact, I have realised that more mafia uses list post to add content to their filters than town. Next, I don't like anyone who townread me on d1. It should be second nature to think I am scum if you played enough mafia. You could say I always purposely act like this d1 just to fish for reactions. (wifom alert) Also, given how the person he wanted the seer to check died, it may be some sort of play to make seer useless for 1 more day since the seer just checked the person dead. Either way, I have a real strong feeling killing is wolf. ROFL. I wasn't trying to get him lynched. I was trying to lynch SkyDragon the whole fujcking day. I was actually townreading GB closer to EoD. I didn't post it or anything, probably should have. If I was mafia, why would I try to flip a town vote to a town vote when I'm under suspicion. I townread people for retarded ass shit, you can either get mad about it or start listening. I'm usually right. Also, lists are god like. Maybe you should try it sometime, SO YOU STOP MISLYNCHING TOWN.
lists are horrible. And it doesn't help town at all.
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On September 27 2014 23:44 Killing wrote:
ALSO I WOULDN'T FUCKING KILL GB CAUSE SEER WOULD CHECK HIM. Seer isn't even fucking listgening to me. I would be seer hunting, not seer check hunting.
I said that was wifom. It was just some nonsense off the top of my head. Why the reaction? Is it because I was right on something?
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