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On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia.
Meh
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@ff what are you talking about. Give me an example of what you mean, where my logic is wrong
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On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi.
However the logic is from the Palmar lynch. Being if you think either me or obi is town, it's in your best interest to look in the group of 4. Since from your view point ff, you have to know , 2 out of the 3 are scum if obi is mafia, or all 3 are scum.
I'm trying to pit you 4 against each other to see who picks what and why.
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So ve you think 1 or 2 mafia pushed palmar
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Doesn't matter I await your detailed town reads on jat, superbia, ff. As well as at least 1 scum, if not 2 scum reads from those 3.
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On October 02 2014 15:04 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:58 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi. However the logic is from the Palmar lynch. Being if you think either me or obi is town, it's in your best interest to look in the group of 4. Since from your view point ff, you have to know , 2 out of the 3 are scum if obi is mafia, or all 3 are scum. I'm trying to pit you 4 against each other to see who picks what and why. Explain to me why you and obi are a group because you both voted palmar? What about the palmar vote is so alignment indicative that is basically nullifies you and obi from the conversation?
Because I'm town, and I've explained my actions on palmar.
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VE mafia, tunnels the easiest person he thinks he can that is town for the win. He doesn't want to be in this mess of a game, i don't blame him.
Town VE, upset sure. I don't think he tunnels this badly though. He seemed to care about figuring out the game, but clearly he doesn't care.
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On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia.
1. i'm being very reasonable. I want to look at 4 people today, and i want opinions on those 4 people. I'm trying to drive town in a productive discussion on the game.
2. sure i do, i'm doing it now. I don't know if you are scum. You happen to be online and are chatty. I'm trying to figure out your alignment, yet i'm being stone walled by your persistence that 1 or both obi has to be mafia, when it is impossible we are both mafia.
3. arguing with people you are very sure about as scum is pointless. If i was sure you happened to be scum, i'd be pressuring other people to read you. Instead, i'm asking people to look at it within the group of 4, and name their scum pairs. Because i want people to generate information, i want to figure this game out. You are avoiding progression of the game.
4, congratulations, my play is "different" than my other "town games" i'm sorry, what exactly is so odd and different from my town play, vs the passive meh mafia play i had last game?
5. The palmar swtich confirms me as town.
6. Trying to logically deduce my options to figuring out the game is poor? It is poor to get everyone on the same page, to lynch a correct mafia, by eliminating options? I deeply apologize for trying to figure the game out. For giving you room to respond to my questions.
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On October 02 2014 15:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also it's funny that you think YOU are the easiest person to lynch this game. What because ONE other person thinks you're mafia? That makes you the easiest lynch? OKAY STORR!
in your eyes maybe.
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Whatever, I'm not doing it tonight, but I'll look at the the group of 4 tomorrow. Are you happy?
I suppose it isn't "tomorrow" (well technically it is) I await you to keep to your word before its to late.
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@ve why did you completely dismiss superbia for "trying to figure rl the game out" and not wanting to deal with him?
While you are fighting with someone who clearly is trying to figure out the game this day?
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On October 02 2014 20:24 batsnacks wrote:
FF or Store is fine. Would prefer Store right now. I'm kind of burnt out on this game.
bat you can't be serious right now....
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On October 02 2014 21:25 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 21:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 02 2014 20:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 20:24 batsnacks wrote:
FF or Store is fine. Would prefer Store right now. I'm kind of burnt out on this game. Vote for Storr and we'll bring this game back to LIFE. I voted store first Well....I mean, I know...I'm just sayin. Don't move it. Cause there's literally no way Storr is town. He's never town in a million years in this game.
why not. i am town.
You guys shouldn't be letting VE run this lynch today, who hasn't read the entire game, who doesn't know the interactions of everyone or why i was being town read by super hard by killing, palmar.
and town read at the end by HF.
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On October 02 2014 17:52 batsnacks wrote:
Store is a good lynch today. Anyone who wants proof open his filter and ctrl-f "dumb town." Town doesn't call themselves dumb town that many times.
guess we have a new base example for next game when i call myself dumb town as town like this game.
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On October 02 2014 17:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm going to bed.
##vote: Obiwanshinobi
this is literally a throw away vote atm.
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On October 02 2014 16:55 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 16:13 StorrZerg wrote:
@ve why did you completely dismiss superbia for "trying to figure rl the game out" and not wanting to deal with him?
While you are fighting with someone who clearly is trying to figure out the game this day?
You aren't. You are telling everyone else to do it, but dictating who they should be looking at as if you already have the game figured out. You are pushing a non town agenda in limiting the lynch and currently voting the towniest player in the thread. You are NOT trying to figure out the game from my perspective. You are trying to win the game as mafia.
YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING TO PROVE YOU ARE TOWN. NOTHING YOU HAVE HALF A DAY OF ACTIVITY.
ALL MY ANTI TOWN BADNESS THIS GAME MAKES ME MORE TOWN THAN YOU EVER CAN BE IN THIS GAME.
if i was tryign to win the game, i would be forcing the lynch onto a townie which i very well would know, or i would be busing hard. Doing neither because I DON"T KNOW WHO MAFIA IS AND IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE FUCKING GAME
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On October 02 2014 20:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 07:04 StorrZerg wrote:
@jat mafia would gain more for palmer going first. Thing is its very likely the whole palmar lynch was done by just town. Hell if obi is scum, he gets someone else to hammer /help. AND mafia don't kill holyflare in that situation.
wat This still doesn't even make the slightes bit of sense. So why did mafia kill HF btw.? Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. That is not logical. Not even a bit. You aren't improving your odds of lynching scum by removing Obi from the equation one bit. Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 10:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Voting VE.
Not sure which of the 4 i like the most as town. But Ve makes sense for now, I really liked my case against haru, I don't like how he is playing this day. First his sudden aggression on myself. And now his refusal to move off obi, even though his case isn't that great.
I've asked him to explain more, and instead i'm met with "not listening to you any more" and his persistence on pushing obi.
And refusal to look into more detail on the list of 4.
I am baffled at how anyone could think that VE is the scummiest here. Haru was fucking scummy, yes. But if you look at VEs play today and call it mafia I am calling you mafia. Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 11:30 StorrZerg wrote:
Personally. I think jats play has been super lack luster. Can't remember anything about his play or impact in the game. With out diving back into his filter.
WHAT? Then who was the one pushing the hardest for lynching Skydragon yesterday? ME. And that's not the only thing I did this game that you can't possibly have forgotten. You can call me scummy for pushing a mislynch but you can't give me this shit. Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:35 StorrZerg wrote:
Most of this isn't a read on obi, rather observations of the game involving him, and logically it's better for town to be lynching within the named 4.
4. I dont. Again it's my logic train. I really don't have a solid read on him, and I'm not lynching him, so I don't care about him all that much.
Repeating the same bullshit does not make it any more true. This is fucking idiotic if you are town. Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 15:09 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 14:26 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia. If you think his town play is drastically different this game and were basing your townread on him on his switch to palmar alone how could you call him confirmed town ever? Seems weird to call someone confirmed town just to call them mafia after they point a finger at you... I have a clearer picture of his motives now that I've seen him play this cycle. Like, look at how he townreads Haru until it's convenient for him. I couldn't even FIND his case on Haru because there WAS no case. I assumed there was one because he said there was, and when he pointed out what he was calling his case and I read it, that really made me look at his posting this cycle. Look at how he's treating Obi - he refuses to call him town, but gives several reasons WHY he thinks he's town. He's either keeping his options open or he's going for the win WITH Obi THIS cycle - that would explain his nonsensical push on the other 4 players AND his wishywashy attitude about Obi. Storr was pointing a finger at me long before he voted for me. He was calling me mafia before I even posted (he was reading Haru mafia remember) so I called him confirmed town WHILE he was pointing a finger at me. If you thought YOUR observation was weird, CHEW ON THAT. This is a very good post. Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 15:53 StorrZerg wrote:
VE mafia, tunnels the easiest person he thinks he can that is town for the win. He doesn't want to be in this mess of a game, i don't blame him.
Town VE, upset sure. I don't think he tunnels this badly though. He seemed to care about figuring out the game, but clearly he doesn't care.
How the fuck are you the easiest person to tunnel for him? I thought you were "confirmed town" from the Palmar lynch? Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 16:04 StorrZerg wrote:
5. The palmar swtich confirms me as town.
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because HF was going to not push on obi or storr today, because he thought everyone on palmar was probably town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows.
Your looking for mafia who thrive on bats play, who haven't really been pressured by bats.
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By convincing town people that i am town. I can help them eliminate obi, and look at the other 4. They have a 66% shot at hitting mafia or even 100% if obi is town.
LIKE THIS WHOLE FUCKING PLAN DOESN"T MEAN SHIT IF I GET RAIL ROADED.
like i'm sorry i'm trying to be the god damn mayor of this crap. and what is mafia doing? sitting by...
where is super where is FF what are they doing to progress the game?
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Why can't we kill super. HE is literally doing nothing today.
Reminder day 1, 3 town stayed on sky (confirmed)
The hopeless wagon has 3 unconfirmed in order of vote, fecal jat obi. with the last 2 being out on odd wagons. Super on fecal, with the "yeah ill let town sort it out afk" and haru on super "cuz busy:
Day 2. Haru stays on killing. does nothing.
2 town push bats, with an unconfirmed obi.
3 town push jat in killing, sky, myself
palmar dieing words lynch haru
Where is fecal this day, insta votes SD, then switches to sky, then goes back. THIS IS WEIRD.
Day 3, pushes SD no surprise.
Point is FF at this point in the game is just "dazed and confused" with literally 0 input on how the game should be going right now.
I would say jat is trying to figure the game out, i'm less inclined to be lynching him today.
I'd love to lynch FF, Super today.
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Seriously guys, just look at the votes, where have active towns been. ALWAYS AT THE FRONT OF THE LYNCHES PUSHING.
LOOK at the people who are alive with outlying votes, who get on cases late. This game isn't that complicated of mafia pushing THAT FUCKING HARD day 2 to switch a lynch. I HAD FUCKING 0 reason to kill palmar as mafia. He was town reading me hard, and wanted to lynch haru.
I wanted to lynch VE hard today. Why would i fucking kill someone like this unless i was with ve............................ Like seriously use your heads guys, follow the logic its there i swear. If i'm mafia, i'm playing for the god damn win this day, i'm not killing HF in a million years cause i would be town reading him today, and pocketing him. I would have 100% killed the uncontrollable batsnacks who happens to be confirmed town.
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