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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:28 GMT
#914
*continuation*
Which is also why I am calling him stupid, and not scum anymore (after breshke claimed to not be tracker).
Because he is town in my book, but is pushing the wrong wagon forward, and we might lose because of it.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:29 GMT
#915
On October 14 2014 17:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:43 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 16:25 Breshke wrote:
Abuse if you are town the scum team is 100% loaf and ff you need to understand this. Seriously show me reasons why fecal is town.


The reason fecal is town is because rad and loaf are scum.

On October 14 2014 16:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Abuse you have to consider the loaf/breshke team. Look at this breshke guy.


What else do you want me to see?

what r u doin abuse


abuse stahp


As I said, that read fell apart when breshke claimed to not be tracker.
That statement cleared Rad.

See below:

On October 14 2014 16:52 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:47 Breshke wrote:
Ok the dream of not having our tracker outed isn't going to happen. Abuse you assume it is either me or rad that is the tracker i had the same thought about you. If it isn't you then it is Rad.

I know you said one of us scum one tracker but do you really think i wouldn't take that easy fake claim if i was mafia.


So you are saying you are definitely not tracker.
Crap.
Well then it's either FF or Rad, so Rad is the clear for now, he's just not as bright of a cookie as I thought.
Either way, loaf is 100% scum.
Hopefully rad stops being... like this, after loaf flips.
Can find the last scum tomorrow after the NK, which will give us tons of info.

I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:33 GMT
#919
On October 14 2014 17:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:28 abuse wrote:
*continuation*
Which is also why I am calling him stupid, and not scum anymore (after breshke claimed to not be tracker).
Because he is town in my book, but is pushing the wrong wagon forward, and we might lose because of it.


Well we all have to vote the same person or it's all screwed anyway. mafia wins if any 1 of the 3 town are split


I am not voting for anyone else than loaf today.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:39 GMT
#921
On October 14 2014 17:32 Breshke wrote:
Abuse you do realise tracking the same eprson both nights isn't that donkey. It isn't like cop mafia chooses who does the night actions so a mafia report saying no actions or w/e doesn't mean they are green. I think Rad's list was believable and wouldn't be surprised if it was the real one.

Also Rad you need to take this into perspective. Abuse thought i was tracker. Let's assume he is mafia. He thinks i tracked him N2 so his partner was 100% the one who submitted the night action. This means whoever you tracked if they came back no action or whatever they are very very very likely not abuses partner. So this kind of makes the lynch easy for today. Whoever you tracked last night cannot be abuses partner. This means if you tracked ff or loaf we lynch the one you didn't track as they are confirmed mafia.

I hope this makes sense i can explain it if needed.


your point only makes sense if I am scum, and I am not scum.
Also I do not believe at all that what he said were his tracks were his actual tracks. I don't believe he would track the same person twice.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:40 GMT
#923
On October 14 2014 17:34 Rad wrote:
I'm too tired to continue with this tonight. Lynch is in 12+ hours and I'll try my hardest to be keeping up when I can (in and out for about 5 hours before the lynch hopefully).


here we go again. Is there like a single day/night phase where you have not said something like this?
Sure, go off, don't pay much attention to this, this is like literally the turning point to us losing or not.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:43 GMT
#925
On October 14 2014 17:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:40 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:34 Rad wrote:
I'm too tired to continue with this tonight. Lynch is in 12+ hours and I'll try my hardest to be keeping up when I can (in and out for about 5 hours before the lynch hopefully).


here we go again. Is there like a single day/night phase where you have not said something like this?
Sure, go off, don't pay much attention to this, this is like literally the turning point to us losing or not.

To be fair at best he's pacific time which is 1:40am, eastern is 4:40am


To be not fair, he should have been here much earlier than midnight then.

I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:50 GMT
#929
On October 14 2014 17:45 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:39 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:32 Breshke wrote:
Abuse you do realise tracking the same eprson both nights isn't that donkey. It isn't like cop mafia chooses who does the night actions so a mafia report saying no actions or w/e doesn't mean they are green. I think Rad's list was believable and wouldn't be surprised if it was the real one.

Also Rad you need to take this into perspective. Abuse thought i was tracker. Let's assume he is mafia. He thinks i tracked him N2 so his partner was 100% the one who submitted the night action. This means whoever you tracked if they came back no action or whatever they are very very very likely not abuses partner. So this kind of makes the lynch easy for today. Whoever you tracked last night cannot be abuses partner. This means if you tracked ff or loaf we lynch the one you didn't track as they are confirmed mafia.

I hope this makes sense i can explain it if needed.


your point only makes sense if I am scum, and I am not scum.
Also I do not believe at all that what he said were his tracks were his actual tracks. I don't believe he would track the same person twice.

No abuse because if you arn't scum lynching in ff and loaf would still be a confirmed scum how can you not see this? Seriously we can confirm the game doesn't end today.


I don't understand this.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:51 GMT
#931
On October 14 2014 17:47 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:34 Rad wrote:
I'm too tired to continue with this tonight. Lynch is in 12+ hours and I'll try my hardest to be keeping up when I can (in and out for about 5 hours before the lynch hopefully).

I'm not saying anything more about the tracker nonsense abuse has created as a non-red track is useless and anyone could just claim tracker at this point. Anymore talk about tracker that isn't talking about a RED hit is scummy as fuck because it puts the tracker in danger even if we do lynch scum today.

My vote stays.

If you are tracker and you don't hop on the main wagon by eod you are donkey-est tracker NA 2014


You're an idiot.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:40 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:34 Rad wrote:
I'm too tired to continue with this tonight. Lynch is in 12+ hours and I'll try my hardest to be keeping up when I can (in and out for about 5 hours before the lynch hopefully).


here we go again. Is there like a single day/night phase where you have not said something like this?
Sure, go off, don't pay much attention to this, this is like literally the turning point to us losing or not.


Stop trying to make it sound like I don't give a shit. I play when I say I can and I have to sleep now because it's 4:45am. Normally I go to sleep an hour ago. Then I have to wake up and work. Eat a dick.


Sucks when somebody tries to do something like that, huh? Like try to make everyone think you are forcing a vet claim or something.
What you are saying here, is that you work for like 22hrs a day, and I have a tough time believing that. P.S. Dick confirmed delish.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 08:52 GMT
#932
On October 14 2014 17:51 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:50 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:45 Breshke wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:39 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:32 Breshke wrote:
Abuse you do realise tracking the same eprson both nights isn't that donkey. It isn't like cop mafia chooses who does the night actions so a mafia report saying no actions or w/e doesn't mean they are green. I think Rad's list was believable and wouldn't be surprised if it was the real one.

Also Rad you need to take this into perspective. Abuse thought i was tracker. Let's assume he is mafia. He thinks i tracked him N2 so his partner was 100% the one who submitted the night action. This means whoever you tracked if they came back no action or whatever they are very very very likely not abuses partner. So this kind of makes the lynch easy for today. Whoever you tracked last night cannot be abuses partner. This means if you tracked ff or loaf we lynch the one you didn't track as they are confirmed mafia.

I hope this makes sense i can explain it if needed.


your point only makes sense if I am scum, and I am not scum.
Also I do not believe at all that what he said were his tracks were his actual tracks. I don't believe he would track the same person twice.

No abuse because if you arn't scum lynching in ff and loaf would still be a confirmed scum how can you not see this? Seriously we can confirm the game doesn't end today.


I don't understand this.


Do you or do you not think I am town.


I do think you are town, yes.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 09:13 GMT
#937
On October 14 2014 17:57 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:52 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:51 Breshke wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:50 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:45 Breshke wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:39 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:32 Breshke wrote:
Abuse you do realise tracking the same eprson both nights isn't that donkey. It isn't like cop mafia chooses who does the night actions so a mafia report saying no actions or w/e doesn't mean they are green. I think Rad's list was believable and wouldn't be surprised if it was the real one.

Also Rad you need to take this into perspective. Abuse thought i was tracker. Let's assume he is mafia. He thinks i tracked him N2 so his partner was 100% the one who submitted the night action. This means whoever you tracked if they came back no action or whatever they are very very very likely not abuses partner. So this kind of makes the lynch easy for today. Whoever you tracked last night cannot be abuses partner. This means if you tracked ff or loaf we lynch the one you didn't track as they are confirmed mafia.

I hope this makes sense i can explain it if needed.


your point only makes sense if I am scum, and I am not scum.
Also I do not believe at all that what he said were his tracks were his actual tracks. I don't believe he would track the same person twice.

No abuse because if you arn't scum lynching in ff and loaf would still be a confirmed scum how can you not see this? Seriously we can confirm the game doesn't end today.


I don't understand this.


Do you or do you not think I am town.


I do think you are town, yes.


Do you think Rad is town


Yes I do, please get to the point already D:
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 09:42 GMT
#954
On October 14 2014 18:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait a sec abuse.

I am bussing loaf is what you are saying?


I see you as town for now aswell.
Currently the only scum that is 100% certain for me is loaf.
Not enough information to tell who the 2nd one is yet. Hence why more info is needed, which we will have tomorrow after the nightkill.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 10:12 GMT
#959
On October 14 2014 18:25 Breshke wrote:
Okay fuck it i'm writing it all out again I don't care that Rad said don't talk about tracker stuff because i think we are in a terrible position with two of the people i think are town fighting with each other.

So abuse you thought i was the tracker even though i had said i tracked you last night in my hypo. So unless you had thought about this otherwise it sets up two worlds.

1. You are not mafia therefore ff and loaf are scum

2. You are scum and your partner world 2.1 being ff and 2.2 being loaf submitted the night action. We then look to what the tracker did as it is fairly obvious the tracker hasn't got a hit.

2.1 The tracker tracked loaf and got that he didn't follow anyone. As it is semi confirmed that you abuse didn't submit the night action for the above logic this means that ff must be the one who submitted the night action and is mafia

2.2The tracker tracked ff and got that he didn't follow anyone. Same as 2.1 except loaf must be scum

Of course there is he world where the tracker tracked neither loaf or ff but i don't think that is the case.


This is only based on the fact that you really are town, and rad really is tracker.
While it is most definitely the most likely scenario currently, it is not 100%, hence why I say the nightkill will give us more much needed info.

I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 19:47 GMT
#961
how can you even imagine that me and loaf can possibly be a scumteam, considering i have put him down so hard this entire game? like literally from my first post?

also,"As you can see breshke, based on these scenarios and my own interpretations of them, loaf is the least likely logical candidate for scum, and abuse is the most."
i dont know if you read your own scenarios, but even in your scenarios, the 2nd most likely scenario for you is loaf being scum.

Also, about your last paragraph, why are you just ignoring everything breshke himself has been saying? He has explained his reasons for thinking why I am town.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 19:49 GMT
#962
honestly, I cannot believe that what you are saying during this day makes any sense at all if you are town.
If you are not town, you cannot be tracker. If you are not tracker, then the real tracker here fucked up so bad it is not even funny.
What a game..
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 19:55 GMT
#967
On October 15 2014 04:29 Rad wrote:
If you consider me and abuse town, then you consider FF/loaf scumteam. Why would FF bus his partner ASAP on d3? Is this a smart scum play in your book? Does FF get confirmed status level townie points if loaf flips scum in this scenario, making it worth the strange bus? The only other potential outcome there is the loaf wagon catches on, he flips town and scum wins.


But me + loaf makes sense, even though I pushed loaf like no tomorrow (because if you keep this shit up, there really wont be no tomorrow). Why do you not see that as "bussing" but as a 2nd most likely scum team scenario ?
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 19:57 GMT
#968
On October 15 2014 04:50 Breshke wrote:
Abuse what were you planning to get out of the tacker hypos?


I said what I wanted from the hypos.

On October 14 2014 17:26 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 13 2014 16:47 abuse wrote:
Fecal,
I did read.

I don't care if you are not the tracker, I still need your hypoclaims to figure out if you are scum or not.
And you are assuming all that on the fact that we lynch scum today and the tracker tracks the correct person tomorrow.
While it is not incorrect, it is much too risky. Also, I don't see how HYPOCLAIMS FROM EVERYONE would stop your scenario from happening. We do not have to reveal who the real tracker is.
I'm going to tell you right now - I already know who the tracker is.


Was this or was this not a lie/bait?


I was sure that the tracker was between Rad and Breshke.
I was hoping Rad would have more of a brain and actually post a hypo list that would make any sense, instead of taking it stupidly. If he did, I would've taken his list for granted as the real tracker's list, but he didn't take the chance, and did a stupid fake list with the same person during both nights. I can't even emphasize how stupid and anti-town that was of him.

The tracker is now definitely not me, not breshke and not you. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
Basically it means Rad is tracker.


I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 20:00 GMT
#971
Are you kidding me?
I already said who I think scum is.
Now we have 5 people left, if you find the PR, you get a confirmed townie. Add yourself as town and you have 2 mafia between 3 people.
Also - wtf. Why are you asking this now
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 20:01 GMT
#972
On October 15 2014 04:59 Rad wrote:
@abuse

I get that Breshke thinks you're town based on your play. I'm asking for the scenarios in which it makes most sense that you're town based on how things have played out. For example, loaf/fecal scumteam requires a retarded play. Pushing your scum partner the whole game is not impossible to do as scum and is actually the ideal thing to do.


it is actually an incredibly stupid play.

Also - Rad, would you like to claim PR now? it is about time.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 20:02 GMT
#973
also, What I did to loaf was not "pushing".
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
October 14 2014 20:27 GMT
#976
Yeah, but i'm just asking it for fun right now honestly, because we'd at least get a claim and counterclaim up. and get 2 people who are surely of the opposite alignment.

By the way, Rad, tell me something. Who do you think is scummier right now. Me or FF?
I don't believe you.
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