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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 23:22 GMT
#576
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23086278
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 23:26 GMT
#579
On October 11 2014 08:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't know fecal as i have said before im not sure which between the four that voted are probably mafia. I don't like how if you take out the lurkier people (superbia rad loaf), you have the least content. It doesn't feel like you were truly reading me as scum when you were calling me scum. That being said I want to see more from rad and superbia before i make my mind up on them.


As indicated by my lack of a vote. My case is based on a lot of WIFOM stuff that I can't really justify basing a vote on.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 23:57 GMT
#584
Ok so I invented a really fun game just now. It's called "How many times does loafery imply that he's town, or that others are calling him town?"
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 07 2014 15:13 loafery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 14:37 abuse wrote:
where on earth is the "good reasoning".
Why is it wrong to chase you.
How on earth can you trust them based something like that.
Since when is "haven't done anything suspicious" a town tell. If anything it's a scum tell.
"I'm sure they're capable" how the hell can you be sure of something like this at this point in the game. How can town be sure that someone else is town before N1 and after they have had no real conversation with them whatsoever.

there are so many things wrong with this post I don't even know how to end this


I first thought there was 5/6 blue roles. I thought it was easy game. ff showed me it wasn't so. I admit my mistake and ff retracts his suspicions. If I were scum why would I even think of getting an easy win. I would havent mentioned anything at all.

You're coming off as very over reactive to my posts. It's all good but I have done nothing wrong.



On October 07 2014 15:59 loafery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 15:23 abuse wrote:
On October 07 2014 15:13 loafery wrote:
On October 07 2014 14:37 abuse wrote:
where on earth is the "good reasoning".
Why is it wrong to chase you.
How on earth can you trust them based something like that.
Since when is "haven't done anything suspicious" a town tell. If anything it's a scum tell.
"I'm sure they're capable" how the hell can you be sure of something like this at this point in the game. How can town be sure that someone else is town before N1 and after they have had no real conversation with them whatsoever.

there are so many things wrong with this post I don't even know how to end this


I first thought there was 5/6 blue roles. I thought it was easy game. ff showed me it wasn't so. I admit my mistake and ff retracts his suspicions. If I were scum why would I even think of getting an easy win. I would havent mentioned anything at all.

You're coming off as very over reactive to my posts. It's all good but I have done nothing wrong.


I don't care what you did at that point. What I care is what you did afterwards.
How the hell can you call yourself confirmed town for something like this. That is scummy beyond belief.
Also all the things I mentioned in this post you quoted. You have not addressed any of the issues I point out. Please do so and do so well. Otherwise, no way in hell am I removing my vote from you.

Right now it seems like you're using the excuse of a newbie to make everyone wear gloves while around you.
You're signaling that you are definitely town based on a incredibly stupid reason which is in no way alignment indicative, you imply that people should not chase you or suspect you, you also trust 2 people in the game already, after no real interactions at all and you're trying to buddy them. All this makes absolutely no sense from a town mindset. It comes from a mindset of scum who wants to stay below radar and does not want people to read their posts and judge their posts. The goal of such a mindset, is "I want to get in as many towncircles as possible and stay below the radar" not "I want to find and lynch scum"

I am not coming very overreactive. You slipped hard. And your defense so far was trash, and nonexisten.


Really? would I be so blunt about it? Don't you think mafia would rather stay low and not post anything of worth to the discussion than being so open and starting discussion in any way possible.

Your talking about very high tactics that would need a high skill cap to achieve for me to get into as many town circles.

And I was on the radar from the start so I failed in going below the radar and am the center of attention.

I think my reasons are legit in getting town reads from ff. He thought I gave valid reasons and realizing a scum mindset wouldn't act this way backed off. I think scum mindset there would pursue the matter no matter what because I did have dirt on my hands in proposing a mass claim and ff's actions to follow the post was very townesque to me. He had valid arguements against me to which I admit I was wrong and that was that.

But the vibes I'm getting from you are...you are really trying hard to lynch me no matter what. I see you have your reasons for which I have answered, but I don't understand what more I can do to prove my innocence. Keep questioning more if you will. Anything I missed?


On October 08 2014 09:19 loafery wrote:
Firstly I don't really get what the difference is between calling myself town and confirmed town.

And for abuse to pick up on this and accuse me of being scum seems a little far fetched to me.


On October 08 2014 09:45 loafery wrote:
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On October 08 2014 09:29 Breshke wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:40 loafery wrote:
"This set-up is based off of the Matrix6 setup with added flavor. This is a semi-open set-up meaning that while all of the roles possible will be displayed the number of each role in game is unknown."

for my defense of being noobish I frankly didn't read this part of the OP. My mistake. To be frank, it's my first time playing semi-open or any kind of open setup. It's always been where everyone knows which roles there are and its fixed.

I srsly don't want to bring in external factors to the game and my credibility and what not. If I have to then so be it...

But atm i want to read abuse as scummy for trying so unnaturally hard and tunneling into lynching me.


Do you not agree then that people reading you as town just for misreading the OP could be scummy then? Like this is something that could be faked so i don't see how people can get a town read off that. Also in my opinion not trying to answer questions is scummy because it makes it seem like you have something to hide but I understand there been so much focus on you so there's a lot to answer.

I'm uneasy about superbia and ff saying they both basically disagree with the push on loaf but aren't pushing on anyone themselves. Who are you both scum reading? Who do you think should be a wagon for today?

Also my biggest town at the moment is abuse from his hard push on loaf as he was the first one to actively push his reads and doing this as mafia would majorly put the spotlight on him if loaf gets lynched and happens to flip town.


How would players reading me as town be scummy?


On October 09 2014 07:58 loafery wrote:
just a quick post before I start reading. Is it right in assuming the people that defended zen before his flip lean towards town?

On October 09 2014 09:08 loafery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 08:17 Rad wrote:
On October 09 2014 07:58 loafery wrote:
just a quick post before I start reading. Is it right in assuming the people that defended zen before his flip lean towards town?


I think this advice is appropriate.

On October 07 2014 13:58 abuse wrote:
5) loafery please stop pretending to be a total newbie, and if you are then address such unclarities with either the mods or your coach.


so what do you think? am i lying through my teeth and acting like a newbie or am i just not very good at this game?

On October 09 2014 09:22 loafery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 09:17 Rad wrote:
On October 09 2014 09:08 loafery wrote:
On October 09 2014 08:17 Rad wrote:
On October 09 2014 07:58 loafery wrote:
just a quick post before I start reading. Is it right in assuming the people that defended zen before his flip lean towards town?


I think this advice is appropriate.

On October 07 2014 13:58 abuse wrote:
5) loafery please stop pretending to be a total newbie, and if you are then address such unclarities with either the mods or your coach.


so what do you think? am i lying through my teeth and acting like a newbie or am i just not very good at this game?


I think you're newbie town who needs to stop playing the newbie card and get some help.


well at least you think i'm town but coming from scum isn't really helpful is it?


I'll give you guys a hint: I didn't include the post where he said he was confirmed town.

Side note on loaf, at this point in time, loaf had barely a 2 page filter where super was well into his third page.

On October 08 2014 09:25 loafery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 22:11 Superbia wrote:
On October 07 2014 21:04 Breshke wrote:
On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse & loaf probably both town.


Why do you think loaf is town?


It's mostly a gut read plus I'm happy with people pushing on him so far, so I'll let you know when it matters.


you are awfully staying in the background and letting others do the work while you just ask questions and try to care about twhats going on. I have a scum read on you right now.



Going to do a little more contextual reading but this is what I have so far.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2014 00:05 GMT
#585
On October 10 2014 07:29 loafery wrote:
i think vet should just claim. the mafia knows who he is anyway and will prolly die n2. I don't want to lynch a vet by accident. We have 7 left 2 mafia 5 townies. If vet claims we get 4 townies and 2 mafia. Less chance of lynching town. I don't want to lynch town and get the vet killed on n2 leaving 3 town and 2 mafia on d3, it's too good a scenario for scum.


This post drives me insane. There's no way a vet claiming is good. If it's a vet, mafia knows there is no doctor, and knows whether or not there is a JK based on their setup. A vet claiming means certain death for the vet, or a confirmation of all the roles in the game to mafia.

Not only that but he is already thinking about best case scenario for scum? Oh man this filter irks me.

##vote:loafery

Unless after I re-read breshke and find more dirt, my conspiracy theory can't stand on its own two feet. Loafery is my biggest scum right now and I think he should post and talk about how he thinks this game works.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2014 00:08 GMT
#586
ebwop: Unless after I re-read breshke I have more dirt**

grammar is hard
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2014 05:25 GMT
#592
On October 11 2014 12:23 Breshke wrote:
FF i would like to hear more from you on different people if that would be okay.

Loaf we don't need vet to claim if we have one unless he is being lynched. The benifits do not out way the information it would give scum. Also have you looked into my case on Elvis at all? What do you think of it?

Also i will be away tonight but i will try wake up an hour or two before end of day but there is a high chance i won't. So if anyone has anything they need to sort out with me i would rather you do it sooner rather than later.

I do not have time to just give a read on everyone. I have to take a foodsafe course early in the morning tomorrow.

Give me a name and i will filter dive them.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2014 06:08 GMT
#596
super has the biggest filter, the most content and had a super good day 1. Night 1 and day 2 have been much slower for everyone though so i can't really fault him for that.

There is no logical reason for me to call super scum right now. I was upset at him for nagging on my list but really he would have had an easier time trying to push breshke or rad if he were scum than to bother with my list.
He led a push on a town but i was on that same wagon and stick to my read.

If someone can come up with a better reason than "he was less active recently" i may change my mine but that's the best I have with regard to a case against him.

Super is towny in my eyes at the moment but would like his input on loaf or breshke or rad by eod please

I am going to bed now and will try very hard to be here before eod but it will most definitely be by phone.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2014 17:30 GMT
#619
Remember to be food safe everyone. I have a lunch break in an hour. Hopefully i can get something done
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2014 18:43 GMT
#624
If i can't get loaf lynched by doing nothing (turns out most of my lunch is occupied by eating) i will vote breshke. Sorry i am no use for eod, i don't do well waking up in the AM
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2014 20:48 GMT
#666
Ok i wasn't supposed to use my phone but fuck the police. If breshke is town look at elvis be back later.


##unvote
##vote breshke
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2014 00:09 GMT
#739
Do you want a picture of my workbook, certificate, reciept for parking and gas, and a copy of the video feed of my store? I had a real life thing today and still managed to post, vote and actually sit on my scum read until close to deadline. Asking to go to the bathroom to check the thread, changing my vote when my wagon doesn't gain traction because my townread was on it, and voting to get my other scumread killed while in a small classroom setting is SCUMMY?

On October 12 2014 03:34 Superbia wrote:
Elvis are you willing to ride or die with Breshke being scum?

On October 12 2014 05:43 Superbia wrote:
This is a fucking disaster btw. Can't get any decent information like this.

Put your votes on one of the following:
Breskhe
Elvis
Rad


and then when I decide to help him out.
On October 12 2014 05:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 05:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok i wasn't supposed to use my phone but fuck the police. If breshke is town look at elvis be back later.


##unvote
##vote breshke


Wasn't elvis like super town for you?


Elvis was super town because of his case on breshke who I was also scum reading before the end of N1, my town read post even contained a joke number of useless town points. I'm not saying I was joking nor am I taking back my town read on elvis at that time...
Breshke made really good points on elvis but that doesn't make elvis scum.

It just implies to me that if breshke is really town and can easily rebuff huge posts by elvis then elvis looks scummy as breshke, who he even went off pushing me, (the basis of my scum read on breshke) to push this guy when he tries to defend himself.

Notice how I said if breshke flips scum. As in I want to kill breshke but if I am wrong, maybe I am wrong about elvis.

You yourself called elvis scummy, but my reading the thread, coming to a new conclusion about someone and posting it while having no time to play... Is scummy. In fact I am confirmed scum and cop or tracker shouldn't even check me?

What the hell, super. I'm excited for your knowledge drop, I really am.

On October 12 2014 07:08 loafery wrote:
holy moly forgot to vote sorry been busy with mid terms lately I'll try to be more active and vote.

and somehow I'm more scummy tan this guy. I'm gonna watch WCS and wait for EoN like everyone else. I'm obviously wrong about night time if I'm the only one who thinks we should talk. 0-4 with me being the last mislynch will certainly be my quitting mafia forever lol
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2014 22:31 GMT
#753
Wait super was actually the vet? I gave up assuming super would kill rad or loaf and mislynch me for the win but now I think it's been loaf all along. That was a very clever kill, trying to implicate me after he said I was mafia. Didn't work it seems as even he thinks loaf and breshke are the most obvious mafia.

Abuse, rad, will you help me kill loaf and salvage this game? Or are you going to make my prediction of adding to my losing streak and lynch me, rad?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2014 22:35 GMT
#754
Doesn't matter if rad helps me right now, or is actually mafia. I have my scumread and will ride this vote to the grave, I'm not sure about any of you anymore.

##vote loafery
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2014 22:40 GMT
#755
Oh wait, we totally could have a tracker. Anyone who knows who killed super last night, or who visited super N1, please don't hold your breath, a mislynch here is a loss.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2014 22:44 GMT
#756
On October 13 2014 06:03 Rad wrote:
Abuse???

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 06:29 abuse wrote:
I will drop a knowledge bomb at the end of N2 too by the way.


also this, please.

Abuse, you're my only real town read right now and I'm scared you might be mafia too...
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#757
I'm gonna be busy for a while but a reminder:

If nobody claims tracker with a check, do not massclaim.

Not only do we have a decent chance to just see 5 vts claimed (remember mafia gets fake names to claim) but mafia will then know exactly who to kill if we manage to survive today with a proper lynch.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 13 2014 05:39 GMT
#763
On October 13 2014 07:58 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Doesn't matter if rad helps me right now, or is actually mafia. I have my scumread and will ride this vote to the grave, I'm not sure about any of you anymore.

##vote loafery

If you are town this is terrible. You are just saying here you will never re evaluate. You arn't sure about anyone anymore but you have a scum read that you will ride to the grave i am not understanding you right now ff.

If I'm town it's terrible to stay on my scumread? Yeah I'm a little upset at losing again but you think I wouldn't follow a lynch with everyone else? That'd be claiming scum. ALL TOWN has to be on one person at deadline or else we lose. Or the mafia decided to bus. I understand the rules of the game.

Could you comment on loaf for me please? Everyone just points at my posts and nitpicks the language but never actually say anything about my reads or my cases.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 13 2014 05:42 GMT
#764
Or to explain it another way:

If I don't push for my lynch target during the day and am forced to vote for someone else(a no-lynch is gg, too) who turns out town, I played poorly. Especially when loaf flips red and says "lol i afked and won as mafia, game is ez didn't even have to vote"

loaf/breshke or loaf/rad imo
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 13 2014 05:48 GMT
#765
On October 13 2014 14:38 loafery wrote:
I find it odd u guys think there is a definite tracker

Super flipped vet, there are only two options. Jailkeeper, who doesn't provide vital information this game by claiming, and Tracker, who still ahs the potential to provide vital information this game.

If you need help on why the jailkeeper shouldn't claim or how I know there are any two options, please re-read the OP.

You'll actually be able to figure the entire game setup out by checking if your scumteam has a roleblocker or not.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 13 2014 05:49 GMT
#766
ebwop "...how I know there are only two options..."**
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