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On October 10 2014 21:58 Elvis! wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 21:27 Breshke wrote:
That bolded part is horribly wrong sorry it is ment to say, This makes no sense if he assumed Zen was town to read me scum then why would he have him in his scumlist.
[quoteAlso it's no good assuming that scum do not have a brain to have ideas as to what the setup could be right now, judging by other people's posts so far.]
You said this and it makes no sense to me the only thing they know is if there is a role blocker or not.
I do agree that other people need to talk and ill be going to bed soon and hope to see content from others in the morning. Which leads to them knowing a lot about the setup. If there is a Roleblocker, only 2 scenarios are possible: Mafia Roleblocker Town Cop Town Doctor or 1-shot Bulletproof Townie Mafia Roleblocker Town Jailkeeper So they would know that there cannot be a Tracker. If they know there is no Roleblocker it can only be Town Cop Mafia Goon Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon Town Doctor Town Tracker So they would know that there cannot be a 1-shot Bulletproof Townie. How does talking about this amount of information not make sense? It's very relevant how the situation would be after roleclaims, and if it might have advantages for the town.
Why do you refuse talking about all kinds of possible scenarios? It's not like there is an obvious answer to them.To repeat: Zen was not 100% scum for me at the time. If someone isn't 100%, which since this is the game of mafia is extremely rare to happen, he must always be available to be seen as townie. You don't want people to tunnel? Allow different perspectives. This is the most interesting thing you have said on the topic: Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 20:29 Breshke wrote:
Get out of your tunnel for a second and assume i am town or just take me out of this game completely. Who would be your scum reads?
This is exaclty what I did with Zen, getting him outside my tunnel and viewing as a weird, possible town.
Now this for you is a reason to call me scum, even though you want people to do EXACTLY that with you.
Whaaaaaaaaat?
and Elvis with the assist.
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and by assist I mean he mentioned it first, and in greater detail than I did.
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Went outside with the dog. I think abuse is doing a lot, I think loaf is kinda scummy. I wont be here long enough for big posts til 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
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On October 11 2014 05:20 Superbia wrote:No need for big posts, just explain your thought process behind this list: Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 06:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
omg before deadline if I die:
town
elvis
abuse
scum
breshke
super
everyone else null or i can't think
elvis used his time during night, abuse used his time during night but felt it was better used at the end, they both did work. Breshke looked scummy all game and you were doing nothing as well. You still are doing nothing, really.
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I think he's doing nothing as well, to be honest. I thought I would get out my thoughts before the day post, in case I got killed. At the end it says "null or I can't think."
I was here for a while and most of that time was dedicated to making a case on breshke. Out of the people who are less active (2-3 page filters) rad, breshke, loaf, and elvis, elvis has done the most work so he is town. Out of the others, I read breshke the most scum based on his entire filter, and loaf less scum. My scum read on you is different than these people. You seem to be poking at me like you did last game, except a lot harder. Almost as if you are thinking the same as breshke, even.
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On October 11 2014 05:17 Superbia wrote:
Lol, who are you mafia with?
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No, the list was before you even said you were watching esl, I said I don't think being silent during most of the night is very towny.
I'm talking about now. You are poking at me now, even though before you were leaning me town. What has changed?
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Am I really that hard to understand? I said my read on you is different. I then said one thing regarding my read toward you.
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On October 11 2014 05:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think he's doing nothing as well, to be honest. I thought I would get out my thoughts before the day post, in case I got killed. At the end it says "null or I can't think."
I was here for a while and most of that time was dedicated to making a case on breshke. Out of the people who are less active (2-3 page filters) rad, breshke, loaf, and elvis, elvis has done the most work so he is town. Out of the others, I read breshke the most scum based on his entire filter, and loaf less scum. My scum read on you is different than these people. You seem to be poking at me like you did last game, except a lot harder. Almost as if you are thinking the same as breshke, even.
Yeah I took night into account and weighed it heavily but I also look at entire filters. Again, am I that hard to understand, or are you doing this to get me mad?
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On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.
Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post.
Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town.
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On October 11 2014 06:01 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum. Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post. Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town. And it was purely based on me being gone during the night, right? At least at the point during which you gave your list.
Yeah, thought it might bring you back to the thread to do some work but it seems to have only succeeded in making you upset.
If I had spent the time to write
town
leaning town
null
leaning scum
scum
and fill it in with everyone, I wouldn't have gotten it in before...
I would have had a smaller chance of getting it in before the day post. My list was not all inclusive, definitive, or in order at the time of smashing it out on a keyboard.
I like the response it got, though. Makes me think my list may have been accurate.
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you made me stop getting ready and go to my pc to respond to you. Are you happy?
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You're taking another random specific from my post and questioning it. I'll answer only because it seems nobody else is around.
I said the word "might" putting you in the scum list also might get you to go crazy over being scumread. You're reinforcing my read with every post you make but at the TIME OF POSTING yes, I put you in the scum column to see how you would react to being put in the scum column, along with the fact that you did not post hardly at all during the night.
Two things going through my head:
1. You have the biggest filter
2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.
If you have a real reason to think I'm scum, vote me. If not, I'm not going to argue over my panic list anymore.
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I have to go, I will re-read the entire game when I get to work and come back with real reads in a bit.
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On October 11 2014 06:35 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
You're taking another random specific from my post and questioning it. I'll answer only because it seems nobody else is around. I said the word "might" putting you in the scum list also might get you to go crazy over being scumread. You're reinforcing my read with every post you make but at the TIME OF POSTING yes, I put you in the scum column to see how you would react to being put in the scum column, along with the fact that you did not post hardly at all during the night. Two things going through my head: 1. You have the biggest filter 2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words. If you have a real reason to think I'm scum, vote me. If not, I'm not going to argue over my panic list anymore.
So let me get this perfectly straight FF:
- It's almost EoN1.
- You want to make a quick list because you think you're going to die (this is your mindset during the post).
- You put me on the scum list because YOU WANT A REACTION?.
How does this make sense when you think it's possible you're about to die? It only makes sense if you think you're going to be alive to follow up the next day.
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Okay, final word about that post since you seem so excited.
If I die, people look at you and bring you out of hiding possibly. If I live, I get to see your reaction. I lived, so I can see how you respond and react accordingly. IF I HAD DIED, the people I wanted to look at would get looked at. See what I am saying?
On October 11 2014 06:31 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.
Shouldn't I then be town?
The word probably allows for exceptions.
On October 11 2014 07:26 Breshke wrote:
The problem is if we lynch wrong today and loaf gets modkilled we just straight up lose barring more PR magic.
Why are you thinking about modkill scenarios with so long to go in the day?
I will now read more into people's filters and give a well constructed read. Stand by.
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On October 11 2014 08:06 Rad wrote:I'm not caught up and won't be until later. Specifically I haven't been able to analyze the big discussion surrounding Breshke and Elvis yet and have only been able to skim posts throughout the day. I've had a haarrrdd week of work with a deadline yesterday and lots of cleanup today so I really had to force myself to step back from the game a bit. I should have plenty of time this weekend to keep up. Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.
Breshke - do you agree with this statement "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching"? Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 07:26 Breshke wrote:
The problem is if we lynch wrong today and loaf gets modkilled we just straight up lose barring more PR magic. Why are you worried about loaf getting modkilled? What has happened to make you believe that he will? Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 18:33 abuse wrote:On October 10 2014 18:18 Rad wrote:
@abuse STOP with your insistence that claiming vet would be good here. If some newbie town vet reads your shit and claims just cause you said it's a good idea, I'm voting your ass immediately.
Scum can NOT know what the set up is at the moment. They REQUIRE knowing whether it was a vet or not to know what the setup is. All scum could possibly know that town doesn't is whether or not scum has a roleblocker. That's it. No other information has been revealed to give them any clue as to what the PRs are. Now that I look at the setup better you are right that scum will know what the setup is if they know if there is a vet in the game. Still, do you think giving them that information in exchange for receiving information ourselves is such a bad deal that you would vote a townie for this? Because that's not helping town. Also it's no good assuming that scum do not have a brain to have ideas as to what the setup could be right now, judging by other people's posts so far. Scum's main job currently except for causing mislynches and staying hidden is finding PR's. I like your rage though. +1 town point. No, revealing that information early is ONLY good for scum. Why are you claiming that me voting for you is voting for town? Do you think you're considered confirmed town or something? You're one of 4 who lynched a town on d1. @Superbia What are your thoughts on abuse giving me town points for my "rage"? Specifically, his being vocal about it. Also, why haven't you voted for Fecal yet? ##Vote: Fecalfeast
oh god damn... wtf is this?
I'm not even gonna bother.
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Okay before I start reading. Breshke, doyou still read me mafia?
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On October 11 2014 08:18 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 08:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Okay before I start reading. Breshke, doyou still read me mafia? Would that change how you view his posts?
Have you even read the game?
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On October 11 2014 08:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Okay before I start reading. Breshke, doyou still read me mafia?
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