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On October 12 2014 06:17 Rad wrote: Of course you are superbia, of the people on the lynch, he's the easiest target. er sorry, I could have sworn I saw him drop in and put his vote on elvis, but he changed his vote from elvis to breshke O.o | ||
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Town: Breshke Abuse Null: Loaf Scum: Superbia Fecal | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:29 abuse wrote: I will drop a knowledge bomb at the end of N2 too by the way. | ||
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Super got hit twice in a row, so there was no JK save d1. Tracker should absolutely out a scum here if they saw the kill. I don't know whether or not a JK should come out here. My gut says no. | ||
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I gotta sleep now though and tomorrow's work but I'll definitely read over what I've missed as soon as I get a chance tomorrow. | ||
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My hypothetical tracker list: Fecal Fecal I have 5-6 pages to catch up on (so far) when I get a chance to tonight. | ||
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On October 13 2014 14:05 abuse wrote: my knowledge bomb was that if one of the two peope that superbia mentioned at the start of n2 to be checked (me and Rad) would die tonight then superbia is most likely scum. i was really busy and uninterested with the game yesterday though, so I totally forgot I was going to say this at the end of N2. Totally makes sense you totally forgot cause boooring right? What are the chances scum hits you anyway? I mean, they only had to risk there possibly being a medic or JK on superbia instead of going for the other guy running the show. On October 13 2014 16:54 abuse wrote: Seriously, does even 1 person here think that if me and breshke were scum together, then I would build such huge cases on him, showing every mistake he has made in this entire game? WIFOM nonsense. On October 13 2014 16:55 loafery wrote: But something happened at night and superbia claimed vet so you had to kill him at night. Or else you could have kept him alive and either lynched him or claimed vet and tracker yourselves and have a 50/50. You guys know there is a tracker and you guys are so sure of it because you guys don't have a roleblocker between you and only have 2 goons. So you're thinking they switched their KP target to superbia after he claimed vet? Let me tell you, sir. Superbia posted his last will at like... 10 seconds left on the countdown timer. Looks like we were both sitting there waiting until the last second with me posting just a few seconds after he did. Scum abuse in that scenario has to read that post, decide, and get that switch KP post in really fucking quick. However, it is sketchy as fuck that abuse wasn't there at EoN1 with the inconsistent reasoning of "meh." Or maybe this quote and superbia's last will scared him? On October 13 2014 02:48 Superbia wrote: If we have tracker or cop, check abuse. Superbia, who was suddenly turning on his biggest town read (abuse), might be a problem after all? But hey, now he's back and more excited than ever! He has a plan and everything and already knows who the tracker is (cause there's definitely a tracker right?). Time for town to turn this around with the new town leader abuse! On October 13 2014 17:02 abuse wrote: paragraph 4 : I just love this. "but something happened at night". You don't even know what happened, yet you are so sure of this and pushing it so hard. also why on earth would I want to kill superbia considering he read me as town the entire game. Great point! Why would you abuse? Maybe to allow for this sort of bs WIFOM defense to seal the deal? Abuse/fecal scumteam probably. Not convinced on loaf town but since he considers abuse/breshke scum team (while only pushing breshke, as a note) a vote from him on abuse is a good enough start. Breshke's a town read for me. Could be abuse/loaf instead of abuse/fecal in the scenario that fecal is just a terrible player. So loaf, if you're down to vote abuse instead of breshke, let's do it. ##Vote: Abuse On October 13 2014 14:42 Fecalfeast wrote: loaf/breshke or loaf/rad imo So fecal, you consider abuse confirmed town? The only guy left who was on both mislynches? Cause I don't fit into your scum team scenario unless town completely derped d2, in which case breshke would then be confirmed town to you. But you have him right there, next to your 100% scum loaf and maybe scum me. | ||
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You claimed both were scum. I don't know if you're town or scum right now and am considering an abuse/loaf scum team, but since we match on abuse, let's do it. Certainly you should have no qualms switching? | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:13 Breshke wrote: Rad what is your opinion on loafs play today? Does it not feel like to you he id going for the win? I know you think loaf and abuse could be partners but couldn't it be loaf and ff aswell? Loaf has completely ignored ff's push on him like he doesnt need to worry about it. I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me. Abuse what did you get from the hypo tracker claims? Is this information you want to share today because i think you might have to end up doing it either way. @Breshke, Loaf's play is confusing (as has been the case this whole game). I have no clue why he would suddenly become so interested in the game just now but I keep thinking about him missing the vote. There's no way he could know if he'd have gotten mod killed for that, so it doesn't seem like a scum move to keep his vote off a townie. It doesn't mean he's town but it seems more likely that if he's playing a lurkery scum game, he'd remember to vote. @Loaf - why haven't you switched your vote to abuse yet? Why do you think we need to vote Breshke or lose? You think both are scum, so how is voting Breshke better than Abuse? | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:13 Breshke wrote: I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me. Abuse voted you, then switched to elvis following superbia (remember we now know that superbia's move was a town move). Scum doesn't care who gets lynched as long as it's town and this opened an opportunity for superbia to take the fall d3 (until of course he started openly considering abuse as scum). In fact, a scum abuse HAD to follow superbia here or risk losing superbia as the scapegoat. That + what I saw as a townie fight between you and elvis is what really pushes me more to believe abuse is scum and you're town. | ||
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On October 14 2014 14:15 Breshke wrote: What makes you think it was a townie fight? Like is there any specific parts? Also if this is your view on it why didn't you oppose the bandwagaons on that day more. Also i know this isn't being discussed anymore really but i think it's important. The second shot on superbia doesn't feel as important to me as I feel like mafia was forced into it as he would have gotten confirmed. Why Rad do you think superbia was shot D1. I know im town so his last reads list had me and Zen as both scum which is wrong. So why was he shot? I don't know how to explain the feeling of "the way this fight is playing out feels suspiciously like a townie fight" but after you've seen a few it becomes more clear. I recognize I might be wrong but sometimes I gotta go with my gut. I did announce that I wouldn't be voting for either you or elvis that day but I'm not going to straight up defend either of you in case of a scum flip. This is why I think he got shot d1: On October 09 2014 03:23 Superbia wrote: I have the ball rolling already dude. We're also not lynching a lurker. They get modkilled or replaced. It's a waste of a lynch. My circles: town: abuse <------------- leaning town: loaf fecalfeast Rad null: Elvis! dusts scum: The_Zen_Man breshke On October 13 2014 17:02 abuse wrote: paragraph 4 : I just love this. "but something happened at night". You don't even know what happened, yet you are so sure of this and pushing it so hard. --------------->also why on earth would I want to kill superbia considering he read me as town the entire game. It's a great play in newbies because newbies are easily convinced with WIFOM defenses. A scum abuse just has to establish his towniness and I can't think of an easier way than killing superbia and playing the wifom defense. | ||
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On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote: The reason for the hypoclaims was to tell if either breshke or Rad were tracker. Because one of them had to be tracker while the other be scum. So loaf and FF are definitely not tracker while either Breshke or I am tracker because magic? On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote: Taking this seriously or not is one of the reasons I did this and breshke did and rad didn't. You're assuming I didn't take it seriously because...? Guess who actually didn't take it seriously - loaf and FF. On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote: Another thing I wanted to see is if the tracker listened to what superbia said during N2. That is to track me during the night. Breshke's hypo list did take that into account and he has me as his N2 track. He saw me not going anywhere and this is why he is not pushing me at all currently. You not going anywhere would not confirm you as town, but it's cute you're pointing that out like it would. It's also funny you would think I'd listen to superbia's advice at end of n2. Pay more attention to the game and you'll be able to bullshit easier, abuse. On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote: There is no reason whatsoever, that a person with a brain, especially someone as observant as rad(as he has proven this game) to go against me at this point and not loaf when it is so blatantly obvious that loaf is pushing just because he wants to persuade people. Again, you're pretending to be confirmed town and that it would be batshit insane to think otherwise. You're not confirmed town and I'm confident others can read through this bullshit. On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote: Call me arrogant, but there is no way in hell, that I should be even considered scum at this point, considering the input I had in this game. You post a lot and make big cases. See my last newbie game a long time ago. I did the same as scum in that game and my effort won it for me. It's really easy to hide in a ton of bullshit because some people believe a big filter is a townie filter. You have to look at the content and the effort they're making. Here's what your actual input to this game was: Mislynch wagon Failed attempt to get vet to claim Mislynch wagon Failed to leave last will after suggesting you'd drop that amazing knowledge bomb Failed attempt to get tracker to claim Plus lots and lots of ignoring my thoughts on FF even when I'm finding shit for you in the last few minutes before d2 lynch. What's next? Mislynch or are you bussing your partner to try to solidify that towniness? On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote: Rad tried to push a wagon with virtually no proof(wagon on FF) and kept going at it at D2. Then just dropped it altogether and hey, now me and breshke are obvious scum, right? And FF is town now, just like that. You should pay better attention to the game. I consider breshke my top town read and by no means do I consider FF a town read. | ||
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I'm not saying anything more about the tracker nonsense abuse has created as a non-red track is useless and anyone could just claim tracker at this point. Anymore talk about tracker that isn't talking about a RED hit is scummy as fuck because it puts the tracker in danger even if we do lynch scum today. My vote stays. | ||
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On October 14 2014 17:40 Fecalfeast wrote: If you are tracker and you don't hop on the main wagon by eod you are donkey-est tracker NA 2014 You're an idiot. On October 14 2014 17:40 abuse wrote: here we go again. Is there like a single day/night phase where you have not said something like this? Sure, go off, don't pay much attention to this, this is like literally the turning point to us losing or not. Stop trying to make it sound like I don't give a shit. I play when I say I can and I have to sleep now because it's 4:45am. Normally I go to sleep an hour ago. Then I have to wake up and work. Eat a dick. | ||
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