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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 17:02 GMT
#1305
In case someone cc's Sylencia NOONE WHO IS TOWN TELLS WHO THE COP IS!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 17:03 GMT
#1306
I got some errands to run, i'll be back in ~4h.
Vote for Sloosh!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 20:51 GMT
#1333
So Sylencia is town because noone cc's him.
Now we kill Sloosh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 20:52 GMT
#1335
WHAT THE FUCK YOU GUYS ARE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING LYNCHING AN UN-CC'D ROLE IN A SETUP WHERE MAFIA BASICALLY CANNOT FAKECLAIM?

fuck this game, do what the fuck you want.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 21:01 GMT
#1338
fuck it geript is also scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 21:04 GMT
#1341
because Sloosh is really scum.
he made a case on me that says "the people rayn though were mafia ended up claiming, that's fishy".
really, read that sentence and see how stupid it is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 21:05 GMT
#1342
On September 10 2014 02:51 slOosh wrote:
Still reasonably suspicious of rayn.

His two strong scum reads in gobble and Sylencia have ended up in them claiming. Like look at how he treats them before the claim. He points out how this and that and everything is super suspicious and makes them scum. But then they aren't scum. His read on me is wrong, so rayn has been 0 for 3 this game.

seriously robert. read this shit.

...............
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.
.
.................
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 21:08 GMT
#1347
Koshi, sloosh and geript
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 21:11 GMT
#1350
ritoky if you are the acolyte you are supposed to counter-claim.
if you are not you are supposed to unvote.

i am not participating in this dumbness tonight any more.
cya tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:15 GMT
#1366
On September 10 2014 13:42 slOosh wrote:
For anyone who has played games with rayn, could you please refer me to his worst town game (worst in the sense that his reads were all wrong)? This is paramount.

You are really basing a read on someone ONLY because they are "wrong"?
Now this is why i am voting for you. Being wrong is not scummy.
IT'S FUCKING DAY 2!!! I cannot possibly have been wrong more than once in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:21 GMT
#1367
sec i gotta reread geript's eod1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:24 GMT
#1368
Yeah geript would have defended me if he was town and had a townread on me on D1 end.
##unvote
##vote: geript
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:27 GMT
#1369
I could also lynch Oats. He hasn't done shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:47 GMT
#1371
yes we can have a reasonable conversation.

for the record i also called haru and xatalos mafia in neat&tidy mafia on D1 so i was as "wrong" as i have been here (i actually never even voted for gobble) assuming sylencia is town. i am ignoring your point about yourself because i cannot possibly know if you are town or scum and therefore it's not really a point.

my reads change because this game is really shitty in my opinion. there is no clear direction in this town and people do not work together. reads are all over the place. noone seems to be giving any shits. it is really hard to find mafia because people make bad decisions and do not read the thread properly. and i am frustrated because of it.

so yes, let's work together then. I am ignoring my read on you for now on. let's talk about geript and oats.

geript had a strong townread on me on D1. Assume for a second i am town regardless of your read on me, does it seem likely town!geript does not defend his (one of strongest) townread at EOD1 when they are possibly getting lynched? In your opinion, did geript push anything on D1? Like really push, not just vote.

What has Oats done in this game that's memorable?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:48 GMT
#1372
and really sloosh. that's what you said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:49 GMT
#1373
Not once does it look like anywhere in your filter you considering that you've been very very wrong on your two strongest reads. Like you aren't surprised that they are town.

You should also stop thinking like this because that's not what i ever do.
They claimed. Unless cc'd they are town. There is no reason to go "oh damn.. hmm hmm.. what to do!?!?? i was wrong woe on me! need to find something else, but i am sad because wrong".

it just doesn't help. I make a decision and move on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 05:59 GMT
#1375
On September 10 2014 02:51 slOosh wrote:
Still reasonably suspicious of rayn.

His two strong scum reads in gobble and Sylencia have ended up in them claiming. Like look at how he treats them before the claim. He points out how this and that and everything is super suspicious and makes them scum. But then they aren't scum. His read on me is wrong, so rayn has been 0 for 3 this game.

I am referring to this. You literally said i have been wrong and that's why you think i am scum, no? And i am scum because i let go of my scumreads when it's only reasonable to let go off them.
How else i am supposed to read this post?

Like tldr'd:
- i am scum because i have been wrong (which is not scummy)
- i am scum because i let go off my scumreads when i realize i was wrong (which is a towntell)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 06:09 GMT
#1377
I usually never show i am unsure about my reads, as either alignment. Unless it's essential because i need to explain something. It just does not help you convincing people because unsure people are not listened to.

Would you believe someone who says "i think we should lynch this guy but i don't really know if he is mafia or not"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 06:16 GMT
#1380
If Sylencia is telling the truth or not by what he posted is not really a discussion point.
The facts are that unless Koshi was the Acolyte (which is quite impossible) Sylencia is town. It does not matter what he said. Hell he could even be lying about not reading who the cop is to protect them. Everything besides that fact is irrelevant and unless he is counterclaimed he is town. I find it nearly impossible geript as town does not realize this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2014 06:20 GMT
#1381
On September 10 2014 15:15 slOosh wrote:
Oh and so you have something to consider while waiting, for the Oats question, it's balanced by "what has LoneMeow done this game"? While reading context I came across this post
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On September 09 2014 16:09 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 09 2014 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 09 2014 15:54 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 09 2014 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

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On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

LoneMeow why did you make this post?


Because you were one of the focal points for D1. I thought it would be useful if I commented you since you were the leading wagon.

But i am not the leading wagon on D2. You should have said what you have on D1 when it was relevant. You didn't even comment on me in any meaningful way on D1 when it actually WAS relevant, and now when it isn't you do. And i do wanna know why you think it's relevant now?

Also what's your take on Sloosh and Sylencia?


You're right that I should've said it on D1, unfortunately that was not possible. Make whatever you want of that.

My take on slOosh has not changed, he's still my top scum read.

Sylencia is quite scummy, especially for calling slOosh scum but not doing anything about it. All the while pushing geript who doesn't seem likely to get lynched right now.

I'm still his top scum read, meaning he has read me scum for quite some time, but he himself has done little to get me lynched. Then he accuses Sylencia for failing to do anything. Hypocrisy.

Essentially I find LoneMeow more problematic than Oats.

I agree with this. Oats ir really conflicting because my read on him depends on Koshi's & LM's alignments.
I do not want to lynch Oats today. We need to have more info because it kinda makes sense for him to do what he has done as either alignment. But i STILL would expect him to be more active and "all over the place". Read Hapa's post on Oats in Palmar's minigame obs QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/GVphGjYbxc3
post #5. that meta read is really spot on and i am seeing the same things in this game.
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