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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 02:03 GMT
#1623
damdred I read your filter from that game

emotional appeals are not going to work
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 02:05 GMT
#1627
</3
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 02:25 GMT
#1630
you probably knew he targeted you

which means the oracle is probably dead
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 03:12 GMT
#1638
On September 12 2014 11:34 Damdred wrote:
Are you even reading Yamato, I can't sleep after reading that!

He checked haru who came back red not me!

rit is scum

well if he's the true cop then you would obviously be with haru

just sayin
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 04:41 GMT
#1651
Why would we want haru to claim?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 05:35 GMT
#1674
the situation breaks down like this:

either dam/haru are mafia, and they used demon to know that the cop (ritoky) was going to check haru and thus had to fakeclaim

or

ritoky is mafia and has CC'd in desperation
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 05:37 GMT
#1675
the syl kill heavily implies a planned cop fakeclaim, a la scenario 1
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 13:51 GMT
#1709
rayn you are playing horrible
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 15:19 GMT
#1712
so damdred

why am i mafia
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 16:52 GMT
#1740
rayn points out an interesting discrepancy in ritoky's claim with him switching to having checked damdred somehow

hm
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 17:19 GMT
#1750
On September 13 2014 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Haru and Damdred were mafia and knew ritoky was the cop and checked Damdred it would have been Haru who claims the cop.

Damdred's play makes sense from cop pov and he is obviously the cop because he checked me on N1.

Don't be stupid if you are town yamato.

why is that necessarily the case?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 17:49 GMT
#1758
well initially ritoky's big post looked convincing

but everything else he's posted doesn't inspire confidence

and I did read them the other way around at one point

it's just pivotal to make the correct decision
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 18:12 GMT
#1770
It's definitely not as clear cut as rayn wants to make it out to be
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 19:30 GMT
#1835
occam's razor says ritoky is mafia
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:32 GMT
#1873
the amount of misinformation about the setup on this page is too high

angels don't know the cop check

and mafia can't both soup and witch kill

read the fucking OP
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:49 GMT
#1881
this is really simple

One of two things is going on:

dam + haru are both fakeclaiming because they have a demon result that one of them got checked and they have a necro check on robik who was the actual exorcist. this scenario seemingly plays out as remaining duo with a third dead. it also relies on a lot of assumptions, none of which we can confirm

OR

ritoky is the fakeclaimer, and had to do so because he got redchecked with his pants down. his claim SEEMS weaker because of the stuff rayn has pointed out, and indeed, believing it fake is the simpler solution.

I also had the read that I thought damdred was town mid-late D1, but honestly I overstated it on purpose because I wanted to lynch lazy rayn. ritoky hasn't been very productive overall this game with the majority of his filter being one of three things: campaigning, koshi's alignment, and sylencia's lynch.

What gives me pause is that I still don't particularly trust rayn, even though he's been quick to point out the holes in ritoky's claim. I don't like that he seems so cocksure while being such a prick to everyone in the thread that shows even the slightest hesitation about the claim.

geript I believe is town to an extent, so I don't like that push from rayn either. He seemingly is calling him mafia because he's not on the same page, but any reasonable townie wouldn't be so sure as rayn is. Regardless of the truth in the claiming situation, I don't like rayn coming out of this.

Sloosh and LM are borderline. If ritoky is mafia, there is a moderate chance that one of them is with him. Likewise if Haru/Dam is a team.

If Haru's claim is legitimate, we know for certain that one of koshi/oats was mafia, and that ritoky has only a single partner left. If he's fakeclaiming, we cannot have the same surety, as he would only ever do so in a world where the exorcist is already dead.

I'm leaning heavily toward voting for ritoky but I'm not at all thrilled about the state of the discussion going on at this juncture and all the pressure put towards geript.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:52 GMT
#1883
On September 13 2014 05:50 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LoneMeow
HaruRH
raynpelikoneet
geript
slOosh
yamato77
Damdred
ritoky

8 alive. Let's say i am the crusader and get lynched. i shoot ritoky.
5-1. You shoot geript and he is town.
4-1. Mafia soups 3. ggnore.

Hmm i guess you're right.
But if geript is not the last scum, i have no idea who is the last scum. Its like

Scum------------------------ not scum

Ritoky> geript>>>>>>> everyone else

For me.

how can you possibly have strong townreads on sloosh and LM

dude

posts like these are why I'm so hesitant to believe the claim
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:54 GMT
#1886
On September 13 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was not lazy i was busy.
I am never lazy.

When two people claim cop and one of them says "this dude is 100% mafia lynch him" and the other one says "are you softing my role? whatcha doing man? btw i have a red check on this other guy" who is scum?

if he fakeclaimed, why wouldn't he just redcheck the guy who is cop?

it works both ways rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:56 GMT
#1890
On September 13 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:54 yamato77 wrote:
On September 13 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was not lazy i was busy.
I am never lazy.

When two people claim cop and one of them says "this dude is 100% mafia lynch him" and the other one says "are you softing my role? whatcha doing man? btw i have a red check on this other guy" who is scum?

if he fakeclaimed, why wouldn't he just redcheck the guy who is cop?

it works both ways rayn

because it's too suspicious.
- "i have a red chek on you"
- "No, I have a red check on YOU!"


that's the basis of almost every other cop-counterclaim scenario in mafia, it's not at all unusual or suspicious
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:57 GMT
#1891
On September 13 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
maybe the oracle visited damdred on N2 and he couldn't possibly claim that.
who the fuck knows.

Demon: Every night you will learn the targets of the Inquisitor and the Oracle. You will not know which target was targeted by whom.
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