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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 04:27 GMT
#1197
Oh yeah Sylencia also tried to shit on me when i called him scum by saying "classic drunk rayn". He didn't even answer my case but instead tried to wash it away by saying i am drunk which i haven't been for the past two weeks.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 04:32 GMT
#1200
I am also extremely conflicted about Oats and LoneMeow atm but today we are lynching Sylencia.

I don't like the fact that Oats does not read Sylencia as scum as per his reasoning on LoneMeow. Sylencia has been more useless than LM because he really doesn't have any scumreads except for geript (and Oats uses that reasoning for scumreading LM).

LM on the other hand made an interesting set of posts. He gave two scumreads which is fine. But then he gave a random townread on me. I can't figure out what he is trying to do with that post. Like, why does he need to say he has a "little townread on rayn". It just feels out of place.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 04:33 GMT
#1201
On September 09 2014 13:27 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 13:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here's what Sylencia has done in this game:
1) Setup speculation - everything he said was wrong or bad and at best a null tell
2) called geript scum - on D2 as per "what he said on D1 and what Haru summed up better but that was not his reasoning on D1.
3) he has "watched geript" after calling him scum on D1 - not scumhunting while accusing geript of not looking for more than 1 mafia" - yes he used that exact wording
4) called Koshi scum on D2 because he "suddenly let go of gobble" - not reading the thread because Koshi switched his vote when GOBBLE FUCKING CLAIMED!!!!

mafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafia!!!!

I think you missed 5. I forget it because I'm watching video mafia, but there was another weird thing in that post.

Probably the fact that he said Koshi switched to Damdred instead of him which should be a towntell in case Sylencia is town (or null, but NOT scumtell).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 04:38 GMT
#1203
I am right and you are wrong yamato.
Sylencia is mafia. You are losing this game if you do not lynch him. Go read his filter again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 04:41 GMT
#1204
I am really pissed off at you yamato. How can you be so obtuse and not realize mafia does not have to call all the townies mafia and you read Sylencia town for one fucking point when every single other point he has made this game is scummy???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 04:45 GMT
#1207
I do not care about Koshi's alignment atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 04:48 GMT
#1208
yamato. make a case on your top scumread then if you do not want to lynch Sylencia.
let's see what you got. act like a town leader if you are one. if you are not then fucking sheep me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 05:14 GMT
#1209
surprise surprise and he fucks off.

yamato i am really disappointed in you. You used to discuss shit with people. Now all you have to say is "lol" or bitch about people's play when you can't even get shit done because YOU DO NOT DO ANYTHING!

Why can't you just play like you used to a half-a-year ago?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 05:20 GMT
#1210
On September 07 2014 03:52 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 03:46 slOosh wrote:
Hmm ... I can see myself being persuaded (since I have a couple of thoughts on it), but I'm curious if our reasons match up. Could you give me a brief synopsis as I work on catching up?

rayn's voting patterns and reads make absolutely no sense

that's not entirely unusual, but he's also too meek for town rayn

basically he's just trying to get an easy mislynch and not really trying to find mafia at all

Also elaborate on this post. Especially the red part.
I voted for Sylencia who i have been calling scum the whole fucking game.
Then i voted for Sloosh who i alsho have had a scumread on.
Then i said gobble looks scummy (which he did before the claim).
Then i voted for Sylencia again.

Now, how the fuck does my voting patterns not make sense?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 05:46 GMT
#1213
You are playing the game wrong ritoky.
Just vote for Sylencia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 05:47 GMT
#1214
what i mean by playing wrong is you cannot read properly or don't understand what you are reading.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:08 GMT
#1215
This is still scummy as fuck:

On September 04 2014 08:19 slOosh wrote:
Could someone link the old witch setup?


On September 04 2014 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats i understand Koshi's way of reading Sloosh although i obviously disagree with his read on hik. I think it makes him town -- not sure town but more likely to be town than mafia.

Sloosh here are the last three tinyhunt game/is:
http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1746&pid=110522#pid110522
http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1777&pid=116865#pid116865
http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1800&pid=122921#pid122921


On September 06 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record this will be the last post about setup speculation and how the setup is played. You will all listen to me now.

The cop claims on D2 if they have guilty. 1-1 trade is very good because the cop gets souped on N1 and we will know the dead players roles. The oracle visits the cop on N2 if this happens. If there is one mafia left on D3, they claim. Then we massclaim. There are roles that cannot be counter-claimed.

The claiming will go like this:
scummiest player first ---->>> townier.
people claim if they are cc-able roles or non-cc-able roles. roles that shoot are non-ccable. + some other roles. I think everyone is smart enough to figure out which roles. There IS gonna be a counter-claim if town has played well enough (the martyr has martyred on N1 -- and we have lynched mafia on D1).

Insta-win gg. We literally win the game 100% if we lynch mafia on D1 and the cop gets a guilty on N1.

If this does not happen do not claim. The oracle role MUST claim when there is 1 mafia left. They MUST!!!!!


Sloosh said:
nothing about the setup which he found sososo important before!


rayn:
votes for Sloosh


On September 06 2014 02:45 slOosh wrote:

[...]

I feel better about rayn after his most recent slew of posts, particularly the setup one, because it's the same plan I thought up of to myself, and I'm less inclined to think scum rayn would freely give up that info because it's dubious if town would have figured it out.

[...]


There is no logic. No logic at all except for mafia trying to make me feel better about him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:18 GMT
#1217
On September 09 2014 15:13 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 14:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what i mean by playing wrong is you cannot read properly or don't understand what you are reading.


right because stating someone is wrong, and not why is constructive town behavior. thumbs up

you are forgetting the chain of events and what i didn't post (for obvious reasons as the nights are silent):
- Koshi makes a case on gobble which i thought was good as i implied
- gobble claims, which makes Koshi incorrect
- rayn assumes Koshi will act like town leader and push another lynch if he is town (unless he is the judge in which case it would make sense for him to no-lynch aswell as he can decide the lynch by himself)
- Koshi does not do that
- rayn asks Koshi to help him lynch mafia
- Koshi does not do that
- N1 becomes
- D2 becomes
- rayn thinks Koshi was mafia

now how does that not make sense?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:21 GMT
#1219
Like you pick some posts that seem contradicting when taken out of context and forget everything between those posts.
that's not how you play mafia sir...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:22 GMT
#1220
Can we now lynch Sylencia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:27 GMT
#1222
are you around ritoky?
who else is scum? let's talk about sloosh and one player of your choise.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:36 GMT
#1224
Did Koshi ever think Damdred is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:37 GMT
#1225
Damdred how close did you read N&T after you died?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:58 GMT
#1228
Damdred:
This is the typical experience I have had with Rayn in the four games that i've played with him as town. In N&T mafia he did the same thing with Koshi. Either he was goin to die or Koshi was basically, he did ease off koshi once he realized his mistake and got a warning from the mod.

Explain the bolded part. Especially the underlined given this:
I never thought Koshi was mafia in N&T which i have said multiple times in the game and after the game. I was willing to throw the game at first because Koshi was being dumb as fuck. Then i decided not to and focused on convincing VE and Haru on Onegu being scum. This is obvious to everyone who has played / followed the game.

Now besides Damdred, who needs to explain this, Sloosh and Haru also need to explain why they did not call Damdred out on D1 for this - you guys should KNOW this is wrong and Damdred is either (1) intentionally misconstruing what i did in N&T or (2) talking out of his ass as he hasn't actually read the game past N1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:59 GMT
#1229
On September 09 2014 15:54 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

LoneMeow why did you make this post?


Because you were one of the focal points for D1. I thought it would be useful if I commented you since you were the leading wagon.

But i am not the leading wagon on D2. You should have said what you have on D1 when it was relevant. You didn't even comment on me in any meaningful way on D1 when it actually WAS relevant, and now when it isn't you do. And i do wanna know why you think it's relevant now?

Also what's your take on Sloosh and Sylencia?
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