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On September 07 2014 02:53 geript wrote:
FWIW, other than meta reasons, one of the things that's really bothered me about Robik is that his reads are so ephemeral. In the last game I was in (which I was scum), I didn't really cared what I said and I just spewed a bunch of random bullshit and never really bothered to figure out how much of it was right. It was just do stuff to look active and towny and stuff that sounds good. That's exactly how Robik's been playing. No read lasts, everything changes and it often changes so fast and so often that it's really hard to nail down where he actually stands "this second." I don't get why Rayn, Yam, and Koshi are all reading him town.
Can you please be specific about which reads "don't last"?
I think there are a couple I've been wishy washy on like 3 people, but would love to know what you're talkinga bout?
Why is it bad to reevaluate the game as the game progresses?
Like nothing you're saying here makes a lick of fucking sense
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I can't think of a single read of yours that has stayed the same at all except maybe Syl, but I think before the Yamato read you were willing to lynch him. I don't have any problems with re-evaluating, it's just not normal for all reads to flip entirely like that.
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On September 07 2014 02:53 geript wrote:
FWIW, other than meta reasons, one of the things that's really bothered me about Robik is that his reads are so ephemeral. In the last game I was in (which I was scum), I didn't really cared what I said and I just spewed a bunch of random bullshit and never really bothered to figure out how much of it was right. It was just do stuff to look active and towny and stuff that sounds good. That's exactly how Robik's been playing. No read lasts, everything changes and it often changes so fast and so often that it's really hard to nail down where he actually stands "this second." I don't get why Rayn, Yam, and Koshi are all reading him town.
but i had this problem with him earlier in the thread and simply asked him: "your reads aren't centralized so sometimes they are hard for me to find, could you list them?"
and then robik listed them. why don't you just ask? he has shown a propensity to list his reads if you can't find them, at least for me he has. but maybe that's cuz i bribed him with chocolate sweetness.
also as for him spewing crap incessantly. from what i have seen, robik spams regardless of alignment and borders on insulting regardless of alignment.
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fakkkkkk only 20 minutes before i have to go. syl isn't a candidate for lynch for anyone else here? i would really prefer syl. if not, gotta look into these others.
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My Syl read actually was the most recent to flip.
My early game read of gobble = town switched to gobble = scum based off of what oats said, and then went back to gobble = town after the claim
Yamato didn't do dick, but I don't think I necessarily called him scum. He became obvious town after the logic-bomb he dropped
Koshi I've never called town an still think he's on the scummier side
Same goes for Rayn
Same goes for you
I've been flip flopping on sloosh. I thoguth ht was scummy, then he called out damdred. I'm pretty sure that when he said "wanna see a trick" and then called out damdred to get damdred to appear in the thread, that was super fucking town. Even though he disappeared, I don't think I'd lynch him at least the first few days, simply based off of that one post.
Oats I thought was scummy at first, but pretty much changed my mind at the beginning of the game and have been town on him since.
Ritoky is fairly townie. I may be wrong, but whatever. I have him as town for now.
I think that covers the majority of the game
Would love to answer any and all questions about my reads. I think I left out Haru...he's a fucking ghost.
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I never actually thought oats was scummy. I just thought it would be funny to call him out for a little bit 
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stop hurting my ghostly heart, robik.
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We haven't talked about night actions in a while. Everyone put everything on me.
Thanks!
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On September 07 2014 03:12 HaruRH wrote:
stop hurting my ghostly heart, robik.
doesn't do anything in thread, name is mentioned, appears with joke comment; hard to not instant scum read
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My eyes hurt from reading without my glasses. I'll be back later after a shower and playing some games. I'm just goign to vote my heart. I think it's ok. He had a weird thing about Oats always reading him scum. IDK why I thought he was town earlier, probly the Koshi read. Meh, I should do more but I just don't feel like it.
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Like, wtf are you even doing this game geript? Why are you voting for people who you don't even talk about? If you think I'm scum, vote for me. You'd be so fucking wrong,but this voting on random people is not helping anyone. Why aren't you trying to get your thoughts out clearly and concisely? Why aren't you pushing an agenda?
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I'm seriously depressed at the level of play right now.
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Well, unfortunately Town Jesus is out of time and has to go to work. I hope that you vote me for grail so that we can bring the Grace of God to bear on the witch scum. I am going to vote for my #1 scum read at the moment as I don't see a case strong enough to shake me off the read.
Sylencia
It starts out with him talking purely about setup and optimal play. When criticized by a couple people, he responds with how he doesn't have enough time or the ability where he is to view the thread or respond substantively in any manner. Then he responds substantively in defense of himself. He just immediately got defensive and whiny when accused; which is a mafia indicator for many players when they are caught early on.
Secondly, this post:
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.
Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet
I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-
IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble
Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.
Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.
As rayn pointed out very clearly. The guy claims null reads on people then scum reads them later in the same post. It is a load of wishywashy bs where he SCUM reads his NULL reads. Like....I can't even begin to comprehend.
Thirdly, this sequence:
On September 07 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 00:46 Sylencia wrote:
Guys, let's not be lazy and select the person with less activity than the rest. It's pretty much set up to be an easy mislynch if he's town and there's just not enough to go off instead of others.
If I was to select someone for lynching it's geript. He's actually done very little to help town, beyond the first 12 hours of the game, he's been finding people safe over people who are scummy. Process of elimination probabyl works at a lower player count, but to try pull off 13 man PoE isn't something I'd see anyone trying to do. Damdred is basically scum claiming. "I'm going to do work to prove that i'm town" goes off and posts in a different game instead of playing this one "guys, i'm just keeping up with what's happening right now, which is hard cause it's like 1 post per half hour" leaves again "guys, i'm not gonna do work because i don't think 6 hours is enough time to do the work required to convince you that i'm town" Fuck that shit.
On September 07 2014 00:50 Sylencia wrote:
Give it at least another day Robik, silent night at least means he can catch up (properly) and if he doesn't do anything tomorrow then I'd consider it. I just think there's bigger fish to fry.
Why give it a day on damdred? Why are you hard defending him now, you haven't hard defended him anywhere all thread. You don't even really give a reason as far as I have read into your filter. You just sound like someone who might be trying to buy some cred or keep a scum buddy alive. Also if there are bigger fish to fry, then WHY AREN'T YOU PUSHING FOR ANY OF THEM????????????????????????
I cannot comprehend his play as town, so he isn't.
##vote: sylencia
##deadlinevote: sylencia
a couple minutes late to leave for work now FAKKKKKKKKKKK
was wurf
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I'm here, catching up. Could we establish the thing where we posts votes in this thread as well as the other one? Not only for readability, but geript just voted me and I don't see a mention of my name in his most recent postings, and last thing I remember was him agreeing with me on my Damdred lynch.
But yes, catching up.
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we're lynching rayn, sloosh, that's all you need to know
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Hmm ... I can see myself being persuaded (since I have a couple of thoughts on it), but I'm curious if our reasons match up. Could you give me a brief synopsis as I work on catching up?
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On September 07 2014 03:17 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 03:12 HaruRH wrote:
stop hurting my ghostly heart, robik. doesn't do anything in thread, name is mentioned, appears with joke comment; hard to not instant scum read
i'm not interested to tell you exactly why I am busy right now. I hope someone enlighten him so that he won't use this as an excuse to scumread me lol
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On September 07 2014 03:46 slOosh wrote:
Hmm ... I can see myself being persuaded (since I have a couple of thoughts on it), but I'm curious if our reasons match up. Could you give me a brief synopsis as I work on catching up?
rayn's voting patterns and reads make absolutely no sense
that's not entirely unusual, but he's also too meek for town rayn
basically he's just trying to get an easy mislynch and not really trying to find mafia at all
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On September 07 2014 03:52 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 03:46 slOosh wrote:
Hmm ... I can see myself being persuaded (since I have a couple of thoughts on it), but I'm curious if our reasons match up. Could you give me a brief synopsis as I work on catching up? rayn's voting patterns and reads make absolutely no sense that's not entirely unusual, but he's also too meek for town rayn basically he's just trying to get an easy mislynch and not really trying to find mafia at all
Have you ever seen Rayn with a filter this small? Have you ever seen him not be aggressive? I think the answer to the first question, is only that pro/am game. The answer to the 2nd question is never. I'm so confused. In what fucking world does Rayn not try. Why doesn't he at least attempt to emulate his town play, if he's scum, by attacking people and trying to bury people.
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