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On September 12 2014 10:46 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 10:32 kushm4sta wrote:
you dont think it's an important question? Nope, I think it's a weird question. If you're town, you have to lynch mafia, it doesn't matter if it's day one, LYLO or MYLO. Also, nobody knows if we can have a mislynch as we don't know how many mafia are left. All we have are speculations regarding this matter. Only mafia would be worried about how many mislynches are left. Town needs to lynch mafia under any circumstances.
Are you SERIOUS? Been a while since I read such a thing.
On September 12 2014 10:58 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 09:35 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 08:41 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 08:24 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 08:18 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 07:51 Vivax wrote:
I've asked you for your scumreads, so stop switching topic. i plan to give them, but i would prefer that everyone give their potential teams of 2 mafia and why first. I need to do another reread with the fresh flips in mind, but if you read closely you could figure out that for the moment Oats and 3d are my townreads, making your slot and kush the remaining scum. I don't understand why you want people to post their reads before you. Usually you would come out with them on your own, eager to present your ideas, if you even have any. Right now it looks like you ask for other people's reads to calibrate the ones you gonna post. i feel you all have been entrenched in the game and have biases and tunnels built up, and when i post my reads they will be a fresh perspective not polluted by such things. also you're doing a lot of saying things without giving reasoning. you should try the reasons part too. What do you think am I doing without given reason? I will probably be able to answer to that by pointing out where in my filter you had to look, but give me a first impression. you're calling people town and mafia without reasons specified even though i specifically asked for reasons.
And I asked you for an example from my filter cause I would point you to where I wrote about the reasons, right now you're just making blanket statements.
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Anyone suspecting me should explain rationally to me why I should be the first guy to push my scumbuddy Damdred after I had plenty of other options to choose from (ie 27nb and bats).
If you're town and even more if you're a town replacement (who probably doesn't have a good picture of the game) then you have to reread D2 and answer me that.
It's alarming that Oats doesn't consider that since he's been in the game all the time.
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On September 12 2014 21:26 kushm4sta wrote:
I mean I can see where gb is coming from. .
Who are people thinking of lynching right now?
NB slot is not a good lynch. Replacement means her lack of inactivity is not due to scumminess , and therefore she is less likely to be scum.
No, smurf mini had two scum replacements who won the game after their predecessors were very inactive.
And what GB said is a bad argument for somebody being scum. It's also a town concern how many mislynches they have left.
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In fact I think smurf mini was the reason why Palmar has a no replacement rule in his games lol. He was pretty mad after that game.
ANd cause you were a dick kush.
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On September 13 2014 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 00:21 Vivax wrote:
Anyone suspecting me should explain rationally to me why I should be the first guy to push my scumbuddy Damdred after I had plenty of other options to choose from (ie 27nb and bats).
If you're town and even more if you're a town replacement (who probably doesn't have a good picture of the game) then you have to reread D2 and answer me that.
It's alarming that Oats doesn't consider that since he's been in the game all the time. I dont remember that. But its k, i dont want to lynch you today anyway. Like you are know for bussing people for cred. You even shot a dude for cred. why not this?
I don't have to prove why it wasn't a bus as long as no one proves why I'm supposed to be scum. I'm the most active dude in the game, and I posted a fuckload on arguments on why a flipped roleblocker was scum, any town calling me scum is mentally challenged.
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And GB, your argument is ridiculous cause it doesn't prove a thing about why kush should be scum. If he's scum it's not for that reason.
It's NOT scummy to speculate on the amount of mislynches in a closed setup. It might be futile to talk long about, but it's a question a townie can ask himself.
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Read my filter. I know it's tough as replacement but I don't want to repeat myself.
I'll mention one point I already mentioned previously, as a little favour: Read D2 EoD, he scumread Damdred, then voted batsnacks after Damdred came back to thread in a scummy way (after his dinner), calling it a vote for self-preservation.
He didn't attempt to move people to Damdred, only sat back and put his vote on the townie when he was about to get lynched.
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On September 13 2014 04:30 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 01:59 Vivax wrote:
Read my filter. I know it's tough as replacement but I don't want to repeat myself.
I'll mention one point I already mentioned previously, as a little favour: Read D2 EoD, he scumread Damdred, then voted batsnacks after Damdred came back to thread in a scummy way (after his dinner), calling it a vote for self-preservation.
He didn't attempt to move people to Damdred, only sat back and put his vote on the townie when he was about to get lynched. i read your filter, i read the thread. so here's my question to you: why did you waffle so hard on damdred during the last day phase? at the beginning of the phase you made a post where you adamantly wanted to lynch damdred since he was a liar and anti-town. yet the moment that the opportunity arose to move off that wagon onto someone else you did. why were your convictions so weak about confirmed mafia? also, i think oats is pretty town from his unflinching stance on damdred.
I started questioning my reads cause of the NK, like kita, and was annoyed at the inactivity during the day. 3d and bunnies posted almost nothing, and I voted them at the end of the day on a whim cause I didn't feel as confident any more, I think I expressed that sufficiently during the day, so go read again.
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On September 13 2014 05:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 04:58 Vivax wrote:On September 13 2014 04:30 ritoky wrote:On September 13 2014 01:59 Vivax wrote:
Read my filter. I know it's tough as replacement but I don't want to repeat myself.
I'll mention one point I already mentioned previously, as a little favour: Read D2 EoD, he scumread Damdred, then voted batsnacks after Damdred came back to thread in a scummy way (after his dinner), calling it a vote for self-preservation.
He didn't attempt to move people to Damdred, only sat back and put his vote on the townie when he was about to get lynched. i read your filter, i read the thread. so here's my question to you: why did you waffle so hard on damdred during the last day phase? at the beginning of the phase you made a post where you adamantly wanted to lynch damdred since he was a liar and anti-town. yet the moment that the opportunity arose to move off that wagon onto someone else you did. why were your convictions so weak about confirmed mafia? also, i think oats is pretty town from his unflinching stance on damdred. I started questioning my reads cause of the NK, like kita, and was annoyed at the inactivity during the day. 3d and bunnies posted almost nothing, and I voted them at the end of the day on a whim cause I didn't feel as confident any more, I think I expressed that sufficiently during the day, so go read again. i read it, but my issue is you didn't take the initiative on the matter imo; you followed others onto that. like you were very willing to come off of damdred. contrary to your stated position.
Of course, I just told you about everything that changed that position. And you can't speak of missing initiative when I got the ball rolling onto Damdred during D2.
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Both NKs sort of point to ritoky, maybe also Oats, not sure if Obi felt scummy on Oats though.
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I really don't like how ritoky replaces in and then starts to look for inconsistencies in my Damdred read that can easily be explained by reading what I wrote during D3, while my alignment can already be discerned by reading my D2 and the Damdred stuff.
I realize a replacement might simply be sloppy and not up to date with the game, but when a guy feels like annoying the most townie looking guy with pointless questions then it might just be he's pretending to be scumhunting.
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But I still think kush is our best option for aforementioned reasons so please vote for him.
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On September 14 2014 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why do you think scumkush decides to push his scumread scumread?
Can you go into detail. He didn't push his scumread Dam D2 he voted bats for self preservation, that's my best argument.
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On September 14 2014 01:07 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 23:10 Vivax wrote:
I really don't like how ritoky replaces in and then starts to look for inconsistencies in my Damdred read that can easily be explained by reading what I wrote during D3, while my alignment can already be discerned by reading my D2 and the Damdred stuff.
I realize a replacement might simply be sloppy and not up to date with the game, but when a guy feels like annoying the most townie looking guy with pointless questions then it might just be he's pretending to be scumhunting. So basically, omgus. he is suspicious of me, and I'm beyond suspicion, so that makes me suspicious of himVivax you are not beyond suspicion.
Yes, I openly OMGUS him, cause there's a reason I've hardly ever been up for lynch and it's cause the guys who got NKd read me correctly as town. One guy's perception that deviates from theirs like that could point to scum, cause they don't want me to appear townie.
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Kush, I'm coming around the idea that Oats could be scum, mostly for the D1 to D2 stuff, but do you have an explanation for why you're so different from your usual town games in this one?
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Forget it we have to kill kush. Every time I read his D2 + EoD I think he's scum.
27nb and subsequently her replacement too, cause he tried to find inconsistencies in my Damdred read when he could have found even bigger ones in kushs.
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Plus 27nb's play was awful, when she played she almost only talked about her rl stuff, and she scumread me, and the last 2 NKs both scumread her.
Lynch kush + ritoky, ggnore.
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On September 14 2014 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2014 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Kush, I'm coming around the idea that Oats could be scum, mostly for the D1 to D2 stuff, but do you have an explanation for why you're so different from your usual town games in this one? he thinks im town now man, get with the game.
I'm talking to him cause if Idecide that you're scum then I'm not lynching him and I'm not sure I want that.
Not cause of his read on you.
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GB why didn't Damdred vote kush?
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Your vote analysis is based on the fact that in your opinion scum piled onto kush, but one flipped scum didn't, so how exactly can you claim to be right.
Damdred wasn't willing to vote kush, he was willing to vote bats, both were willing to vote bats, but kush previously scumread Damdred and didn't vote him but batsnacks instead.
It's kush.
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