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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 20 2014 16:06 GMT
#11
I ma joining whenever Hapa joins the game. HAPA IT'S YOUR MOVE! ^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 20 2014 19:49 GMT
#14
/in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 08:10 GMT
#22
Let's in people so we can start the game tonight!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 15:04 GMT
#36
I'll be quite inactive during weekends anyways so i don't really care.
But soon i'll not be in any game so starting asap is fine for me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 17:17:28
August 21 2014 17:17 GMT
#44
fuck this playerlist is so cool!
i am exited. i hope Hapa rolls mafia.
*except with me*
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 17:54 GMT
#47
If you say the word "feel" i am insta-lynching you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 21:20 GMT
#67
I promise to play my best game ever as either alignment here. Now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 21:26 GMT
#69
You do not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:16:05
August 21 2014 22:14 GMT
#77
Xatalos is it a 4am or 3am start?
TL can't get my timezones correct.
What timezone i should use to avoid DST shit?

I mean, if i use any GMT+3 it will give me current time 02:blabal.
If i use GMT+2 it will give me 00:blabla

fuck this shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 23:02 GMT
#88
On August 22 2014 07:37 Xatalos wrote:
Ouch, Neat & Tidy Mafia hasn't been neat *or* tidy in recent days :/

People playing that game are awful.
Not in this game. Not in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 23:31 GMT
#94
omg Xatalos haha :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 23:32 GMT
#95
On August 22 2014 07:36 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn I sent you a PM about MafiaTools some hours ago

I saw it is it okay if i take a better look at it on Sunday?
Or hurry?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2014 23:33 GMT
#96
Fuck it i am gonna be awake until role PM because i can(not).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 07:42 GMT
#195
On August 22 2014 12:53 KelsierSC wrote:
"If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?"

Who said this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 07:51 GMT
#197
all the people who have posted look town.
except i have missed the point where someone asked the question i just quoted.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 07:57 GMT
#199
Depends on who he is. He cut down shitposting which is good.
But you're right, he really didn't have anything useful to say after that. But the thread was not that long.

Not a strong read but atm i think he is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 07:58 GMT
#200
I am pretty sure there is at least 2 mafia in:
Hapa, Onegu, JAT, Xatalos.

pretty sure.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 08:06 GMT
#201
turtlevine which continent are you from?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 08:09 GMT
#202
yamato are you still there? i got about 10min before my lunch break is done.
Can you read Wave?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 08:30 GMT
#203
Oh it WAS Wave. Wave explain the question you asked. Why?
If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?

Glowingbear explain why you answered the question when you do not even think KSC is necessarily mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 08:33 GMT
#204
##Vote: WaveofShadow
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 08:38 GMT
#206
Yes Kelsier is almost definitely town.
when Hapa posts i am expecting him to tell everyone why i am voting for Wave.
I gotta get back to work now. brb in ~5h.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 08:39 GMT
#207
In fact yamato you can do that too and get the supertown achievement.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 09:13 GMT
#209
Wave's been doing pointless stuff with no thought behind his stuff.
Just read GB's filter before Wave's question and think about what can it possibly achieve? Then read GB's response and Wave's followup. W00t?!?!?!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:24 GMT
#215
Pretty sure Xatalos is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:31 GMT
#221
not posting at night despite apparently staying up around the deadline...

back this up
and somehow his reads feel a bit too certain/forced?

back this up
let's just say null with some concern for now

you just called me mafia but i am now null?
I'm guessing there's some scum among Hapa/jat/Onegu/VA.

Your scumnullread just said pretty much the exact same thing except for VA is most likely town.
Why was i scum again? Oh i forgot.. i wasn't, i was null...

Like what are you actually saying and how does anything you say make any sense at all?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:32 GMT
#223
You make literally no sense in anything you say.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:39 GMT
#226
So you somehow know i did not fell asleep a half an hour before the game start? How do you know this?
You can't call my reads forced when you do not know what my reads are even based on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:42 GMT
#229
No i don't. Tonight i will. waiting for Hapa to post first.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:50 GMT
#234
Two things:

First. If i am town and awake i do post. If i am mafia and awake i do post. If i am town and asleep i can't post. If i am mafia and asleep i can't post. I have never in my life intentionally lurked as mafia (i do that as town though for reasons) except for in Noir when Mocsta fakeclaimed medic as town to get the real medic lynched and i was having in scum QT with Pandain.
You should know that.

Second. I have a tendency to not explain my reads fully because i want to encourage other people to think and find the reasons by themsleves. Because it helps me getting a better read on them and that's how i play - and have always played.
You should know that.

So yes, your first post had absolutely no thought behind it, even though you SHOULD know these things and pay more attention to what i say and try to figure out why i say the stuff i do. You didn't, and that makes me think you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:58 GMT
#237
And you cannot know my reasoning because i haven't given it so you can't call me out for it.
You just can't call my reads forced when you do not know what i base them on.
YOU CAN'T! unless you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 10:59 GMT
#238
Also you didn't even answer a single point on my post. You just wrote some fluff.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 11:22 GMT
#250
JAT gets the first supertown award.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:35 GMT
#348
On August 22 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave explain the question you asked. Why?
Show nested quote +
If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:36 GMT
#349
On August 22 2014 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly, you just seem mad he included you in his dumb list.

That might be part of it but it still is just a completely baseless statement.

No it's not i had a townread on everyone who had posted by that time except for Wave.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:42 GMT
#354
On August 22 2014 22:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly, you just seem mad he included you in his dumb list.

That might be part of it but it still is just a completely baseless statement.

No it's not i had a townread on everyone who had posted by that time except for Wave.

Fine. Why did you townread damdred? Why did you townread Vayne?

Damdred was the weakest read from the posters. He started the last game exactly the same way and while it looks scummy that's just how he posts at the start of the game. I see no contrast to his townplay in his posting so i think he is town.

Vayne is being Vayne. And town!Vayne. He doesn't give a fuck. He will play later on though.

Wave what would have scum!GlowingBear answer to your question?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:44 GMT
#356
Xatalos has done listposts as town before this game. After he created Mafia Tools. That's a really bad reason to scumread him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:45 GMT
#358
yes he does. Look at Palmar's game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:46 GMT
#359
...and Neat & tidy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:49 GMT
#361
You are right the listpost is terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:54 GMT
#366
I am not sure if i believe that Wave. Unless your plan is to just throw things left and right and see what happens. But i do not think you are that bad of a player.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:55 GMT
#368
JAT he called himself scummy in Neat and Tidy game D1...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 13:58 GMT
#372
Fuck no, it was in Palmar's game:
On August 18 2014 20:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 20:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 18 2014 20:08 Damdred wrote:
Why would you give yamato a town read pass right now? You being silly now xat.

Why dont you answer rayn's question before asking other people if they are being silly?


I saw this post and reread the thread again and Ray never asked me any questions he called me scum a few times, which I think is a shitty case at this point but I can see the merits a fluffy post that results in a null is probably the scummiest thing that has taken place in the thread at this point.

And also yea I can say or ask if someone is being silly if I want to you don't run me!

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:02 GMT
#378
WoS is like a cute little kitty who has feelings as town and he is saying weird stuff all the time and having fun.
As scum he is way more focused and plays as he should play as town because he loves playing scum.

Which is it this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:07 GMT
#384
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:11 GMT
#388
On August 22 2014 16:48 yamato77 wrote:
rayn let's solve the game


What he said after that didn't really look like "YAY LET'S SOLVE THE GAME RIGHT HERE!".......
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:12 GMT
#390
On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment.

I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:15 GMT
#396
Wave are you scared to have feelings?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:16 GMT
#398
Also do you think anyone is mafia? I have no idea who you do think is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:18 GMT
#406
On August 22 2014 23:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment.

I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more.

Because or but? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The only reason to not care about what someone's saying is if you think they're mafia. If you think he's town then you should care.

To make it easier for you: he said that when you're helpful and aggro you're town. When you're not helpful you could be mafia

Well JAT covered that already. I didn't think i should answer it anymore.
I don't read posts from people who i think are town and who i consider "worthless" because it does not help me find mafia. Especially posts about me. Sorry Xatalos but i think you are quite worthless at the start of the game, maybe for smth like 15-20 first hours.

Same goes for Damdred. I do not read his posts properly until he starts posting properly.

If that does not happen then my read might change.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:19 GMT
#408
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

WARNING
WARNING
CONFIRMATION BIAS


I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

I think you should reconsider some of your heuristics. Or maybe a bit more than some.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:22 GMT
#413
On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

What do you mean by the bolded?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:26 GMT
#418
On August 22 2014 23:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Listposts draw attention, having reads basically opposite to everyone else in thread draw attention. So unless he really WASN'T reading the thread, or plays scum like me (I highly doubt it), he's likely not scum.

Bad posts are bad posts. People are found out as mafia because of bad posts. You can't just say "look a scummy post this dude is town because no scum would do that" (which i recently got painfully reminded of).

I also do not understand your pre-flip association read on Xatalos being town because "everyone has called him scum" when in fact half of the players have not called him scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:27 GMT
#419
Maybe GlowingBear is mafia because his posts are quite weird and do not follow any sort of logic.
I gotta reread him tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:32 GMT
#425
On August 22 2014 12:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 12:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:10 Damdred wrote:
@Gb you said most likely to be mafia out of those posted talk to me why its him


(1)He is too aggressive page 1. Being aggressive is a town play, but being too aggressive with too little information sounds scummy to me or beginner's paranoia. I was like that when I was a newbie and I did that last game against Rayn when I was mafia. (2) his entrance is a tcontributing post which doesn't days much actually. He could be trying to look contributive while being mafia. (3) free town passes. He gave a town pass to Robik but didn't to WoS and they were in the same level of "rudeness". Tbh, those three items post on WoS were valid, but WoS is an easy target if you consider all those items already in the beginning of day 1.


Being aggressive is basically how I get my reads as town. Apparently this counts as tryhard but if I am rubbing people the wrong way this early then that probably makes me town. The tryhard town read on me is correct.

I already explained my town passes is a d1 style of mine it is easier d1 to give someone a town pass and see who is left. I also want to explain what was different about Robik and WoS. So robik was the first guy to basically say "you are stupid" which I actually read as town. only after Robik did WoS come at me and it was like just 3 nothing questions to derail town with.

After that his rudeness was just almost like evasive and not contributing in anyway. stuff like posting a gif file, or asking for the SK to kill me. Recently he has been a bit more active but it almost feels forced. He basically asked everyone to give a scum read, an easy way to seem active. and then asked Gb about yamato, who has only said looooooool. Like I think there were better questions to ask.



Bolded part is an okay explanation. I also said you have valid points regarding WoS, but it looks to early to push that hard. I understand you said it is your town play style, but I have to have my own interpretations of what you do.

You can begin to ask better questions now, instead of WoS


So for me I am waiting for some new players to kind of start playing and give an interpretation. I want yamato to give anything apart from his lol post.



You won't get much from Yamato. Check the games he has played and you'll see that he is not talkative regardless his alignment.

Can you tell me why do you feel I'm town? I guess you already said that but I didn't get it clearly.

People who post these things always end up being mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:41 GMT
#429
On August 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Which is absolutely fucking retarded, by the way. If Xat and I were both scum I can say with absolute certainty there is NO WAY IN HELL I would let him call me top town based on essentially nothing. Hell I don't think Xat would even be so bad as to try that on his own either. Scum NEVER give each other massive townreads like that. It's completely unheard of.

I had to look this up and comment on it.
I did that once. It ended up winning the game because Risen is so awesome!

so case debunked.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:49 GMT
#437
On August 22 2014 23:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment.

I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more.

Because or but? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The only reason to not care about what someone's saying is if you think they're mafia. If you think he's town then you should care.

To make it easier for you: he said that when you're helpful and aggro you're town. When you're not helpful you could be mafia

Well JAT covered that already. I didn't think i should answer it anymore.
I don't read posts from people who i think are town and who i consider "worthless" because it does not help me find mafia. Especially posts about me. Sorry Xatalos but i think you are quite worthless at the start of the game, maybe for smth like 15-20 first hours.

Same goes for Damdred. I do not read his posts properly until he starts posting properly.


If that does not happen then my read might change.


Why are you so benevolent here to allow them to try to post more appropriate instead of actually push them?

Because it does not help me finding mafia.
Why are you concerned about the fact someone townreads you? Are there no reasons to townread you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 14:50 GMT
#440
On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

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I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

Why wouldn't a mafia say this?


There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it.
He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass

I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far.

I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people.


Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me.


Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis


So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe.
Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today

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besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you?


can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you.

If me or Hapa says "lynch yamato" you will lynch yamato and not secondguess it for a second. ok?
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August 22 2014 14:51 GMT
#444
Robik i like you when you play the game. <3
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#450
On August 22 2014 23:52 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 22 2014 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
[quote]
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

Why wouldn't a mafia say this?


There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it.
He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass

I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far.

I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people.


Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me.


Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis


So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe.
Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today

besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you?


can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you.

If me or Hapa says "lynch yamato" you will lynch yamato and not secondguess it for a second. ok?


What is a Hapa?

You are town for me so I would trust your reads, if Yam posts a bit more maybe I can reevaluate but for me he is town so far.

Hapahauli - a player in this game.
yamato is really easy to read because he cannot mirror his townplay as scum. I thought he was town early on because i saw stuff that reminds me of his townplay but then he asked me to solve the game with him and did jack shit after that.It is weird.
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August 22 2014 14:54 GMT
#453
On August 22 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 22 2014 23:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

Why wouldn't a mafia say this?


There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it.
He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass

I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far.

I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people.


Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me.


Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis


So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe.
Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today

besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you?


can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you.

If me or Hapa says "lynch yamato" you will lynch yamato and not secondguess it for a second. ok?


What is a Hapa?

You are town for me so I would trust your reads, if Yam posts a bit more maybe I can reevaluate but for me he is town so far.

That's the wrong way. If yamato DOESN'T post a bit more you should reevaluate your townread.

ahahahahhahah totes true. 100%
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August 22 2014 14:58 GMT
#454
So far were doing good.
We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town.
Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players.

I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly.
Is there anyone who thinks they are town?
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August 22 2014 15:03 GMT
#458
The thing with someone townreading you is this:
  • As town you do not care because regardless of the reasons it is a null tell. Especially at the start of the game when there is not much information. The reasoning is most likely "gut", "genuine posting", or some other blabla. If the person calling you town is town you cannot have a better read on him because as mafia he would say the exact same thing regardless of how good/bad the read in fact is.
  • As mafia you however DO care, because there are two possibilities. (1) The read is "good" and other people agree with it which brings you more town credit. Or (2) the read is bad and you make other people call that person scum for his bad read which makes him a lynch target. Both outcomes are "Profit!" if you are scum.


And that's why it's more likely that it's a mafia post.
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#461
JAT: Xatalos looks like he is trying to figure out the game. He can bus as mafia, he most likely would if he was mafia. He is also way more "certain" about stuff as scum. I am not strongly townreading him and in case he is scum he will either fuck up at the EOD1 or bus. Both are good.

Xatalos: The difference between JAT town and scumplay is like a day and night. Don't care to elaborate more on this at least yet. I do not understand why would you scumread him? Him not making a big case and voting at this point of the game does not make him mafia. In fact i think it makes him more likely to be town.
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August 22 2014 15:12 GMT
#464
I did already. One is enough.
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#466
On August 23 2014 00:14 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT: Xatalos looks like he is trying to figure out the game. He can bus as mafia, he most likely would if he was mafia. He is also way more "certain" about stuff as scum. I am not strongly townreading him and in case he is scum he will either fuck up at the EOD1 or bus. Both are good.

Huh? I remember this being different.

I suggest you read Titanic II where he just bussed and bussed and bussed. And then they fucked up my perfect SK win with the host.

Yes it has not always been so but i am pretty sure it nowadays is.
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#469
Now you are not even reading the thread BlowingGear.
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August 22 2014 15:21 GMT
#473
imo Xatalos (and Damdred) weren't calling you mafia because you didn't post. He called you mafia because your recent posts were bad as fuck.
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August 22 2014 15:22 GMT
#475
Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time.
This is funny haha <3
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August 22 2014 15:23 GMT
#479
You didn't push anything yesterday GB.
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#481
On August 23 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time.
This is funny haha <3

I really hope you are not scum >_<

Of course I am not. Although you'll probably be paranoid about it until N1 start.
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August 22 2014 15:30 GMT
#484
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?
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August 22 2014 15:31 GMT
#485
On August 23 2014 00:29 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time.
This is funny haha <3


Because you are both town.

Think the lynch is between Xat and GB at the moment. I think WoS has played a lot stronger since the restart and GB has really slipped down.


I do not think this is the case with Wave.
Basically everything he says is just incorrect or he contradicts himself with what he says earlier. For example he called someone bad/scum for making an association case and then he made a shitty association case himself...
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August 22 2014 15:34 GMT
#488
On August 23 2014 00:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time.
This is funny haha <3

I really hope you are not scum >_<

Of course I am not. Although you'll probably be paranoid about it until N1 start.


It you manage to mislynch me I bet he will be more than paranoid after n1.

Just read the thread, play the game and stop whining.
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August 22 2014 15:36 GMT
#490
brb i gotta go get some food. 10min.
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#501
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.

You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.
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August 22 2014 15:55 GMT
#504
In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?
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August 22 2014 15:56 GMT
#506
On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?

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August 22 2014 15:58 GMT
#510
Tell me Wave, what are grand points then?
You have two weak townreads and i have no idea why you think the people you are mafia are mafia.
Enlighten me because you have given us nothing concrete so far.
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August 22 2014 15:59 GMT
#511
On August 23 2014 00:57 Xatalos wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?


No, you are null because you have played pretty similarly as both town and scum in recent games (not explaining stuff + pushing me hard early and then suddenly dropping it + being arrogant and confident in your reads).

But i have explained every singe thing i have said in this game.. As it READS IN MY FUCKING POST!
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August 22 2014 15:59 GMT
#514
Maybe we should just lynch Xatalos because he is refusing to answer directly to questions and dancing around the issue.
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August 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#517
On August 23 2014 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?

THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THREAD SNETIMENT JESUS CHRIST
I ALSO MENTIONED PEOPLE WHO ARE AFK AND THEY DIDNT CALL XATALOS SCUM HURR DURR I MUST BE MAFIA

Yes because it is definitely possible either:
(1) Xatalos just fucked up or/and
(2) People who have not posted (+ yamato) are hisscumbuddies, YOU EVEN SAID SO YOURFUCKINGSELF!
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August 22 2014 16:02 GMT
#522
Like your thought process does not add up with your conclusions Wave. It really does not.
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#525
On August 23 2014 01:02 Xatalos wrote:
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On August 23 2014 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:57 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?


No, you are null because you have played pretty similarly as both town and scum in recent games (not explaining stuff + pushing me hard early and then suddenly dropping it + being arrogant and confident in your reads).

But i have explained every singe thing i have said in this game.. As it READS IN MY FUCKING POST!


Yeah actually you've been improving in recent pages. Maybe I should put you as +1. I'm still very hesitant to lean town on you because I made that mistake in Titanic and we only got lucky because the Vig randomly killed you.

I didn't even fucking play in that game because i was in Helsinki and therefore afk all the time...
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August 22 2014 16:04 GMT
#526
On August 23 2014 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show me where that's true.

I just did.
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August 22 2014 16:11 GMT
#531
Wave what is your reasoning for not scumreading GlowingBear?
What you are doing right now is just trying to discredit me for no reason. It makes no sense to me because what i have said is basically "i have no fucking idea who you think is mafia and why" and "what you say is not making sense to me". The way to conter it is to start making sense, not to discredit someone. Everyone who pushes lynches has lead mislynches. That does not make me bad. For the record i after my break i have voted for mafia in 75% of all my day phases as town. So i am definitely not bad and if i happen/happened to mislynch you it's on YOU because YOU failed to convince the town you are town.
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August 22 2014 16:25 GMT
#549
turtledude why did you leave the thread last night when it was prime time for you to play?
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August 22 2014 16:27 GMT
#553
##unvote
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August 22 2014 16:29 GMT
#559
turtle can you gimme your read on Wave after you're caught up plz?
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August 22 2014 16:33 GMT
#562
Yes i read that already.
catch up first.
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August 22 2014 16:35 GMT
#565
##Vote: Xatalos
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August 22 2014 16:43 GMT
#570
What's the name of the nomination WHWC game?
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August 22 2014 16:49 GMT
#577
On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?

I don't think it makes him any less or more mafia.
I jsut want to find one specific game right now so could someone tell me what the fuck was the name of the Nomination World HeavyWeight Champion game?
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August 22 2014 16:50 GMT
#578
wave quik what was the name of the game?
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August 22 2014 16:51 GMT
#580
nvm found it-
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August 22 2014 16:56 GMT
#586
fuck Wave must be town.
I guess i'll go read Damdred again after sauna.
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August 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#593
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC?
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August 22 2014 18:24 GMT
#631
On August 23 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Why must Wave be town rayn?

Because Wave does not get butthurt towards me when he is scum. He knows i can (and also might) lynch him if i decide so. there is no reason for him to try to make me angry in case he is scum (and he does not do that as scum).
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August 22 2014 18:27 GMT
#634
On August 23 2014 03:12 Xatalos wrote:
That's also why scum tend to try and dodge questions/topic instead of lying about it.

Which fits to you in this game.
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August 22 2014 18:35 GMT
#642
Xatalos you around?
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August 22 2014 18:36 GMT
#645
copy/paste your Mafia Tools notes. quick. you got 1min.
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August 22 2014 18:41 GMT
#648
who writes "best plays ever" instead of "obviously town" in his own spot?
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August 22 2014 18:42 GMT
#650
I'll look more into this after i finish sauna.
I am pretty sure this proves Xatalos' alignment in a way or another.
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August 22 2014 18:43 GMT
#653
I am just going to say that each and every one of your reads is "town or idk maybe scum" or vice versa.
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August 22 2014 18:45 GMT
#655
Also why is your vote not on me because i am the scummiest person you have in your list?
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August 22 2014 18:46 GMT
#658
On August 23 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw rayn the last time that I remember you pulling a stunt like this you were mafia.

I have legitmately no idea what you are talking about.
If you can't see the town motivation behind this then i do not know what to say.
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August 22 2014 18:48 GMT
#662
On August 23 2014 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 23 2014 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw rayn the last time that I remember you pulling a stunt like this you were mafia.

I have legitmately no idea what you are talking about.
If you can't see the town motivation behind this then i do not know what to say.

I see it but I also remember TL Noir where you made me post my spreadsheet.

And i would have done that as town aswell. What's the poi9nt?
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August 22 2014 18:49 GMT
#664
This is the easiest way of seeing if Xatalos is town or mafia at this point.
When i am back i am going to re-read the thread with his notes on side and see if they make sense timewise and match up with his actions in thread at those times.
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August 22 2014 18:51 GMT
#665
On August 23 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 23 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw rayn the last time that I remember you pulling a stunt like this you were mafia.

I have legitmately no idea what you are talking about.
If you can't see the town motivation behind this then i do not know what to say.

I see it but I also remember TL Noir where you made me post my spreadsheet.

And i would have done that as town aswell. What's the poi9nt?

There is no point it just really remembered me of that incident.

Yeah i also made BH modkilling his whole mason group by pushing him to give the logs. as town.
now srsly off for a while. i got more beer now and i am happy ^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:18 GMT
#675
reading Xatalos later but for now on:
##unvote:
##vote: Damdred

He actually ONLY posts shit other people have said. terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:30 GMT
#680
Xatalos explain what - on GB and Wave?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:37 GMT
#683
I do not think calling someone scum (by content) but then calling them as town applies as analysis.
Also defending oneself is not analysis.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:38 GMT
#685
On August 23 2014 04:32 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reading Xatalos later but for now on:
##unvote:
##vote: Damdred

He actually ONLY posts shit other people have said. terrible.


Seriously why are you lying about me Ray, nobody said the stuff about GB that I did (who cares if GB is town was still new content), I made a case about WoS slow pushing a wagon onto me without committing to it nobody had posted about that for sure.

I tried to get into a discussion with Xata about his reads earlier and while the things about you sleeping were talked about before hand, I still got updated information out of Xata rather than the old rehashed read people were ripping him for. And we got to the GB stuff and talked about wave a bit. While I am covering what comes to mind, I say all of this to end with.

Why are you making generalized statements that aren't true? Its truly scum motivated to get someone who is atleast commenting in the thread lynched over a lie....so i'm just confused I guess

Can you even fucking have balls to call someone scum i nthis game?
If you think i am scum then call me fucking scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:40 GMT
#686
On August 23 2014 04:38 Xatalos wrote:
Well GB is almost certain town and I think WOS is town too but the point still stands that Damdred showed original thoughts in several posts.

As i said no. He wrote a post where he says why GB is mafia but then he says he has a townread on him.
And again, defending oneself is NOT content. All Damdred is saying about Wave is he is "slowly trying to push a lynch on him" which is not scummy, not even a fact but just his interpretation of the situation because besides pushing his lynch Wave has been butthurt with me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:42 GMT
#690
re-entry post and where he asked me whether WoS was mafia or not and then promptly went to bed and has had no follow up on that post earlier its strange that it seemed like an important exchange in finding each others alignments but it seems to be quickly forgotten. Also instead of waiting for me to respond to his earlier question he immediately qued on an odd post I made and then retreated to bed shortly before I responded and still hasn't drawn conclusions from the posts. So yes I disagree with your stronger town read currently, I have a falling town lean after re-reading GBs filter.
Like read this...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:43 GMT
#691
You are not voting for anyone Damdred.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 19:44 GMT
#692
I literally do not care what people say if it does not translate into a vote.
Be a man and vote for your scumread and see what happens.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:47 GMT
#782
Hapa is mafia.
##unvote:
##Vote: Hapahauli
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:49 GMT
#786
I do not have to read anything in this game any more.
Hapa is mafia.
Lynch me it's okay. Lynch Hapa after me you get 1-1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:51 GMT
#789
Hapahauli has NEVER EVER read me as mafia when i am town.
NEVER. He is incapable of doing so because he is as good as a player as marv (who two i consider to be the best players of mafia ever as town). He does pick on my "bad" posts. He does ignore my posts i SPECIFICALLY tell him to adress..

Lynch Hapa. He is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:53 GMT
#790
yamato if you are town listen to me. Hapa is mafia. He is. Mafiamafiamafia!!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:55 GMT
#793
nevermind reading yamato's posts he is apparently an idiot this game.
No need to answer yamato, just vote for me and see how it flows.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:57 GMT
#795
On August 23 2014 06:54 Hapahauli wrote:
I mean... I'm not sure why you want me to address posts you made on WoS when you unvoted him half a day ago.

But if it gets you to actually defend yourself, I can oblige.

This is so fucking bad.
I said "i want Hapa to comment on this".
I changed my read on Wave -> means i do not want you to comment on it any more because it does not make any sense.
You say -> "WOW THIS SO BAD!"

dude you so scum. you do not do this as town. you actually do know when pushes/questioning ends and you do not push retarded shit like this. YOU JUST DO NOT. you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:58 GMT
#798
Why are you voting for me Xatalos?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 21:59 GMT
#799
On August 23 2014 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Rayn a towny wouldn't go down like this. Fight with logic and show you are town rather than with petty insults that will just get people angry and vote you

stfu scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:00 GMT
#803
Fuck. Can someone tell what i think?
Like JAT. I am so bad at this shit. I cannot explain myself. I just know who is mafia and who is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:02 GMT
#805
On August 23 2014 07:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 06:54 Hapahauli wrote:
I mean... I'm not sure why you want me to address posts you made on WoS when you unvoted him half a day ago.

But if it gets you to actually defend yourself, I can oblige.

This is so fucking bad.
I said "i want Hapa to comment on this".
I changed my read on Wave -> means i do not want you to comment on it any more because it does not make any sense.
You say -> "WOW THIS SO BAD!"


For the record, I did post my thoughts on wave last page.

Show nested quote +
dude you so scum. you do not do this as town. you actually do know when pushes/questioning ends and you do not push retarded shit like this. YOU JUST DO NOT. you are mafia.


I wasn't aware that the process of pushing/questioning players had to end before the player I'm pushing enters the thread.

Who wouldda thought.

The thing is you are not looking at the full thought process. You are looking at some shit that fits your agenda.
You answer / call me scum for things that are overdated. You do not do that as town. You just do not.

Three sentences. Why am i mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:03 GMT
#808
On August 23 2014 07:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck. Can someone tell what i think?
Like JAT. I am so bad at this shit. I cannot explain myself. I just know who is mafia and who is not.


So other than myself, who is the mafia and who is not?

I need to find one mafia / day because i cannot lynch more than one mafia / phase.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:04 GMT
#810
EBWOP:
the post to Hapa:
overdated = outdated
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:07 GMT
#816
I am pretty sure Xatalos is mafia aswell. His post on me just does not make any sense.
(1) I was never soft-pushing yamato. if you think i was soft-pushing him you have been soft pushing every fucking player in the game and it makes you 12x mafia.
(2) false
(3) false
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:07 GMT
#817
Hapa answer me and do not fucking dare to fuck off.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:10 GMT
#820
Hapa
Xatalos

idk.. yamato? like wtf is he doing?
i want him to play. not just +1 and *sucksucksuck* on someone's dick.

bleh.
Damdred still susp.

Other ppl town except for Onegu who is afk.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:12 GMT
#821
then lynch me and die on D2 Xatalos.
I am telling who is mafia. I do not care if i get lynched.
Make a fucking case and push it you fucktard.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:17 GMT
#830
Of course i am town. I am also so fucking good noone will lynch Hapa because you all are pussies so lynch me or him.
Lynch the other one on D2 if you hit wrong. I guarantee you 1-1 trade because Hapa and me are not bad at this game and if there is a scumread from one of us on another it's because one of us is mafia.

Like really. I do not consider ANYONE in the world a better player than i am - except for marv and Hapa. Hapa is not this bad, and i am willing to lynch myself to prove it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:19 GMT
#838
On August 23 2014 07:15 yamato77 wrote:
rayn

do you think I'm mafia?

for the reasons i stated earlier on you look scummy.
if you think i am scum you look even more scummy.
there are three people who should read me town at this point. you, hapa and JAT.
you did... earlier on. JAT is fucking paranoid.. Hapa is mafia.
Are you mafia too?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:22 GMT
#845
HERE. HERE IS THE REASON WHY HAPA IS MAFIA:
He does not state why he thinks i am scum. He just says stuff without saying why it is scummy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:24 GMT
#848
I promise you all Hapahauli is 100% mafia. I do promise it! I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!I do promise it!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:26 GMT
#853
JAT sheep me on Hapa on D1 plz.
I promise he will flip mafia otherwise you can lynch me on D2.
I PROMISE!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:29 GMT
#858
ILL MAKE A CASE TOMORROW BUT FUCK! Hapa is scum.
He is saying shit that does not hold water. Hapa does not do that as town. EVEREVER!
He said i voted for Xatalos for something i did not. My vote was on GB. [u]GB CLAIMED MASON WITH TURTLE. 'That's why i unvoted. read hapa's case, he paints this as something else and i was voting for xatalos and just "changeing my mind without any reason". REad the case!!!! hapa does not do this as town!! NEVER NVER EVER![/b]
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:32 GMT
#868
On August 23 2014 07:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT sheep me on Hapa on D1 plz.
I promise he will flip mafia otherwise you can lynch me on D2.
I PROMISE!

I won't decide on that today. I am rather lost right now but at least there are clearly some factions showing right now.

I was lost but not any more.
Hapahauli is mafia. 100%.
I am giving you 100%.!!!!!!!!

I promise you he is mafia for my belonging in this game. he is mafia.
this is like marv reading me. Don't be fucking idiot.-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:33 GMT
#872
On August 23 2014 07:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:23 KelsierSC wrote:
I have multiple times but you dodge so.

I explained that he asked a reasonable question about yamato, but it is being painted as some attack and being blown out of proportion. If some guy said "lets solve the game" then disappeared it is odd he is getting a town read, I town read yam but w/e

You also say he switched off GB. GB came back awkward as fuck and played pretty poorly...then got basically confirmed as town. Everyone fucking switched from him. Is everyone fucking mafia?

So your point about unfocus is stupid because he went on 2 people, one of which I believe is scum and asked important and aggressive questions.

Like you need a better reason to come in first post and vote someone, like fuck off with that


Oh geezus fuck I forgot that GB got confirmed mason around that time. Yeah that's my bad.

You can remove that portion from the case, but I think the basic point stands:
RE Yamato: the point isn't that he asked reasonable questions - that much I fully acknowledge. The point is that he went from that good observation (Yamato disappearing after "lets solve the game") into basically forgetting about it and talking about other random stuff. The basic point I'm trying to make is that a town Rayn's mentality would not forget something like that.



amagaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddddd: SSSSSSSASASARTFSFD:C
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:35 GMT
#873
like idk if all the people are just mafia or whatever....

just kill me and i will tell you who is scum. I will not be voting for a townie anyways <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:36 GMT
#876
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:37 GMT
#877
btw i am not insulting you or anyone.
i am just amazed how you guys buy Hapa's crap.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:41 GMT
#881
thnak you for that.
but tbh, hapa is not aplayer who posts crap. he is mafia when he posts crap.

he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:43 GMT
#882
HAPAHAULI IS THE MOST LOGICAL PERSON IN THE MAFIA WORLD. EVEN MORE THAN MARV. HE DOES NOT POST SHIT. HE IS GOOD AT THIS SHIT.

HE IS MAFIA. PERIOD.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:48 GMT
#885
No it's not. You are scum and you're gonna be lynched at last on D2 because if you are not gonna get lynched today i will make myself lynched so that all the isiots will realize you are mafia. You would never ever read me as mafia inthis game as town Hapa. You would not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#887
I am fucking good at reading good players like marv and shit.
Hapahauli is mafia. I am giving you a scum D1 lynch. Follow me-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#889
On August 23 2014 07:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Out of curiosity Rayn, have I ever played a game with you where we were both town? I've been trying to look if I had any meta posts in my past games on you, but haven't found a game o.o

Desert mini mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:51 GMT
#890
You backpedalling from your read is even more scummy Hapa.
Just go and try to lynch me before we lynch you.
I know you better you know ^_^
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 22:57 GMT
#891
Hapa why do you question me about my meta when you are already sure i am mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:00 GMT
#895
again. three people who should read me town:
hapa (scum)
yamato (scum?)
JAT (paranoid- fuck you JAT)

mmm.. kil hapa. kill hapa.- always kill hapa-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:09 GMT
#899
Kill Hapahauli. Plz. He is mafi.

It is all i have to say on this phase. Kill him. Kill mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:11 GMT
#902
nope.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:11 GMT
#903
and nope. wos is town.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:12 GMT
#904
you blew it up already. you're scum.
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August 22 2014 23:13 GMT
#907
On August 23 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn, let's assume I believe you for a moment. Why does scum Hapa antagonize townrayn like that? He has to know how this goes.

Because scum!Hapa is awful and town!Hapa is awesome.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#909
rofl.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 22 2014 23:16 GMT
#910
i forgot to say this is scum!Hapa.
it is also scum!yamato if he does not realize it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:18 GMT
#911
Like i am literally telling you idiots one of me and Hapahauli is mafia.
Go vote for the dude you think is more likely to be scum so i can tell who is mafia and not be just a dickhead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:23 GMT
#914
On August 23 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote:
Do you really claim that scum Hapa would choose pushing town rayn as his gameplan?

No i am claiming town!Hapa would NEVER do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:24 GMT
#916
Xatalos here is the deal. One of me / Hapa is mafia. Vote for one of us.
If you do not you are mafia. Then you can die.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:26 GMT
#919
On August 23 2014 08:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you blew it up already. you're scum.


You're no fun =/


Anyway, Yamato

His lackluster day one has been touched on already.

However, how he responded to my case on Rayn brings some suspicious things to light. Firstly, this:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 06:03 yamato77 wrote:
for me to feel confident in this, I need Hapa to post more

let's go Hapa

talk to me about wave


This is very out-of-character for town Yamato. He's not a player with confidence problems. On the contrary, he's usually very self-confident in his reads and opinionated (although not very active). Any lack of posting he has in his games isn't due to lack of confidence, but generally for lack of effort.

Also, when Rayn re-enters the thread, he posts this...
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:15 yamato77 wrote:
rayn

do you think I'm mafia?


...and then is gone. Just gone. The guy who you're convinced is mafia is under pressure and returned to the thread. You have been excited for the last half-hour over this. And when he returns... one question and out.

ahh so the person who answers to your scumcase can be now mafia?
you're better than this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:27 GMT
#921
I AM FUCKING MAKING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME TO VOTE FOR ME OR HAPAHAULI! BECAUSE HAPA IS MAFIA!
get rekt son.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:29 GMT
#924
Can we lynch mafia? I would like to lynch mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:30 GMT
#925
Just vote for me or Hapa (who is scum).
Sheep me or him. Because we are the best players in this game as yamato decided to fuck off.
If we both read each other as scum one of us is scum. And it's Hapa. Because he is too bad to be town. TOO FUCKING BAD TO BE TOWN!
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:32 GMT
#928
I WILL BE voting for mafia on D1. I WILL!
WILL!!!!!!!
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:33 GMT
#930
so you are scum aswell. check.-
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August 22 2014 23:34 GMT
#931
if you are town Xatalos why are you so fucking dumb? Honest question...
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:43 GMT
#945
hapa is mafia. hapa is mafia.
hapa is mafia. hapa is mafia.
hapa is mafia. hapa is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:44 GMT
#948
i am not accepting any lynch on D1 other than me or Hapa.
Then i will tell you who is mafia besides Hapa.
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August 22 2014 23:45 GMT
#949
I am not answering anything.
I have mafia who is undetectable to other ppl.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:47 GMT
#951
I am claiming scum if Hapa is not scum.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:49 GMT
#954
Hapahauli is mafia. What the fuck are you doing Damdred?
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August 22 2014 23:50 GMT
#955
On August 23 2014 08:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I ma joining whenever Hapa joins the game. HAPA IT'S YOUR MOVE! ^^


It was a trap!

o.o

i am sorry you rollled mafia
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Finland43268 Posts
August 22 2014 23:55 GMT
#958
then vote for him.
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August 22 2014 23:57 GMT
#960
i am off to bed. hapa is mafia.
people not voting for him tomorrow morning are also mafia.
place your votes.
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August 23 2014 05:22 GMT
#1012
On August 23 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato)
It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on.

rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you?

yes.
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August 23 2014 05:24 GMT
#1013
On August 23 2014 09:39 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa seemed relatively genuine in his posting. I don't know who I want to lynch right now. Lynching rayn is attractive but also a waste of the day at this point.

I want to revisit my read on wave later when I have time to sit at my computer

bullshit. Hapa would never ever call me mafia in this game if he was town. NEVER!
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#1014
turtlevine please come in and tell people the truth. PLEASE!
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August 23 2014 05:36 GMT
#1016
On August 23 2014 14:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 14:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
turtlevine please come in and tell people the truth. PLEASE!


What do you mean with this?

Turtlevine is a player who has played this game a lot. He knows Hapa.
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August 23 2014 05:40 GMT
#1018
On August 23 2014 10:11 Xatalos wrote:
I just realized that rayn never followed up with his "ultimate plan" of reading me using the MafiaTools stunt... What's up with that rayn???

I do not care about it because i found mafia already.
Nothing is going to change my mind on this so i am pushing my lynch on D1 and will not be distracted about anything.
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August 23 2014 05:41 GMT
#1019
On August 23 2014 14:39 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 14:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 14:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 14:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
turtlevine please come in and tell people the truth. PLEASE!


What do you mean with this?

Turtlevine is a player who has played this game a lot. He knows Hapa.


Do you know who Turtlevine is? Because I don't.

Rayn, let me ask you a drunkie question: if you were going to point out who is the serial killer, who would you say?

I do not hunt for SK before scum. I just do not think it's useful.
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August 23 2014 05:41 GMT
#1021
But probably someone who doesn't want to get lynched OR shot. Like Damdred who doesn't clearly want to piss off anyone.
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August 23 2014 05:54 GMT
#1023
I don't think this conversation is useful GB.
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August 23 2014 06:02 GMT
#1025
On August 23 2014 07:17 Hapahauli wrote:
[...]
Two strong quotes on GlowingBear. You seem convinced that GlowingBear is scum. You vote him the next day and bring up strong points on him. And then...
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On August 23 2014 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe we should just lynch Xatalos because he is refusing to answer directly to questions and dancing around the issue.

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On August 23 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Vote: Xatalos


You never drop your read on GB. You just sorta spontaneously decide to go on Xatalos.


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August 23 2014 06:03 GMT
#1026
oops just posted the quote.

Hapahauli is mafia.
He would never call me scum if he was town, AT LEAST not without reading the thread properly.
Yes i can prove that he hasn't done so.
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August 23 2014 06:04 GMT
#1028
There is a very good reason i dropped my read on GlowingBear.
BECAUSE HE CLAIMED A FUCKING TOWNFIRMED MASON WITH TURTLE.
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August 23 2014 06:06 GMT
#1030
you are funny gb.
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August 23 2014 06:07 GMT
#1031
you should have kissed her though.
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August 23 2014 06:09 GMT
#1034
That's not what town!Hapa does. He does not just read filters because you cannot find mafia if you are not caught up and just read filters. That dude is the probably the best town player on this site!!!
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August 23 2014 06:10 GMT
#1035
On August 23 2014 15:09 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 15:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you should have kissed her though.


She was horrible. But I said she was beautiful and she gave us 3 free vodka shots for that. I think I would die out of coma if I kissed her.

hahaha.
you should sleep. i should also sleep because i woke up after having a "nap" for like 3 hours and i feel awful and tired atm.
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August 23 2014 06:12 GMT
#1037
On August 23 2014 15:07 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is a very good reason i dropped my read on GlowingBear.
BECAUSE HE CLAIMED A FUCKING TOWNFIRMED MASON WITH TURTLE.


I get this. He could be unaware while reading your filter. I wouldn't call him mafia just for that. I would call him mafia for quickly dropping you out for an useless argument, even bringing valid points against you

also there is nothing valid in his points against me.
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August 23 2014 06:23 GMT
#1041
He voted for me first. it can't be OMGUS.
We can talk.
You remind me of Koshi before he went and switched onto full retard mode. I am a bit sad for that. Not for you but for him.
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August 23 2014 06:24 GMT
#1042
On August 23 2014 15:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 15:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 15:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is a very good reason i dropped my read on GlowingBear.
BECAUSE HE CLAIMED A FUCKING TOWNFIRMED MASON WITH TURTLE.


I get this. He could be unaware while reading your filter. I wouldn't call him mafia just for that. I would call him mafia for quickly dropping you out for an useless argument, even bringing valid points against you

also there is nothing valid in his points against me.


No, they were valid. I also had a scumread on you. But I think I could be OMGUSing. I have to read through your indents 10 filter page yet. But I'd pick you as townie rather hapa.

I swear you they are not.
Maybe for someone who does not know me well enough but for anyone who knows me they are not.
Your mason partner will come in and call Hapa mafia and prove it. ^^
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August 23 2014 06:25 GMT
#1043
I also went and bought 2 cider because i needed to. I also needed cigarrettes.
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August 23 2014 06:31 GMT
#1045
Hapahauli.

He is not focused onto the game. I do not care about him calling me mafia. I care about him calling me mafia for shit reasons when he hasn't even read the thread properly.
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August 23 2014 06:31 GMT
#1046
And no turtle is not Holyflare.
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August 23 2014 06:32 GMT
#1047
someone said he is probably Promethelax and they are probably right.
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August 23 2014 06:35 GMT
#1048
I have once bullied Hapa into lynching marv when i was sure marv was mafia.
I was called mafia for many people in that game yet still Hapa listened to me. He hadn't caught up and he didn't make any conclusions before he had caught up with the game because he was scared of being wrong (before reading properly). there is just no way Hapa is going to jump on conclusions before reading properly. no way.
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August 23 2014 06:51 GMT
#1049
Did you fall asleep?
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August 23 2014 06:54 GMT
#1052
On August 23 2014 09:39 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa seemed relatively genuine in his posting. I don't know who I want to lynch right now. Lynching rayn is attractive but also a waste of the day at this point.

I want to revisit my read on wave later when I have time to sit at my computer

I do not get this post yamato.
Just because what you say about Hapa is completely wrong.
Could you elaborate more?
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August 23 2014 07:01 GMT
#1055
On August 23 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:
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On August 23 2014 15:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 09:39 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa seemed relatively genuine in his posting. I don't know who I want to lynch right now. Lynching rayn is attractive but also a waste of the day at this point.

I want to revisit my read on wave later when I have time to sit at my computer

I do not get this post yamato.
Just because what you say about Hapa is completely wrong.
Could you elaborate more?

there were emotionally genuine things in hapa's posts that I find genuine

has nothing to do with content or reads

it's weak but I don't want to lynch into you/hapa today at all really

talk to me about wave

I do not believe Wave is mafia because he wouldn't get all butthurt on me as scum. He has never done it and before i am proven wrong i do not think he will.

I do not think you are right on Hapa. When is the last time you have seen Hapa make a post without reading and analyzing the thread properly - as town?
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August 23 2014 07:09 GMT
#1057
On August 23 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:
It's weak but I don't want to lynch into you/hapa today at all really

I also do not like this because you are not this kinda dude yamato.
You lynch people you think are mafia. Why so scared?
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August 23 2014 07:30 GMT
#1059
There is zero chance Hapahauli is town this game.
I am sure of it.
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August 23 2014 07:40 GMT
#1060
Like, i know my posts appear as bad or scummy sometimes because i do not explain myself. That is NOT scummy. All the good players do know that because they look behind the actual words - they look at the meaning of the words. Why people say the stuff they do. I ALWAYS have an agenda for the stuff i say whether or not i explain it.

Hapa is one of the few players who is REALLY good in reading into this. He just cannot do that as mafia because idk why, he just can't. Probably because he hates being mafia. In this game he is clearly showing he is not thinking about the game and those things - even though i have, in THIS GAME, said this is EXACTLY how i play. Even if it was not clear to him before this game THIS GAME SHOULD PROVE i am telling the truth.

He is not figuring out stuff how he would as town. I do not know how to explain it better as i am bad at explaining shit.
I however promised to play my best game this game and as my alignment is town you should kill Hapa with fire because he is mafia. I will tell who the rest of the mafia team is on N1. Now we lynch Hapahauli.
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August 23 2014 12:50 GMT
#1109
lol Onegu.
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August 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#1113
Hapahauli
Xatalos
idk yet

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August 23 2014 13:01 GMT
#1116
This is actually a heuristic that never fails:

Swag is probably mafia because he wants to talk about SK and mafia wants to hunt for third parties as it's genuine "scumhunting". Or was it jepg. Anyways the dude who was sk-hunting earlier.


jepg has been night killed. He was Tara Reid's Grown Ass Son Who Flies Helicopters Into Tornadoes Filled With Sharks With Bombs Cause LOL, Mafia Night 2 Vigilante.

I am pretty sure Xatalos is scum because of it.
Now let me find the third one.
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August 23 2014 13:03 GMT
#1118
Fuck it it is just Onegu because he is scumreading me when i am town.
game solved.
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August 23 2014 13:16 GMT
#1126
JAT:
I am not voting for anyone else until Hapa dies.
Xatalos is also mafia.
80% sure Onegu is also mafia.

People who can read me do not misread me in this game. They just don't.

I also have a bar night tonight so i can't be online @ the deadline.
It doesn't really matter because i already found scum. If you do not believe me not voting mafia is on you guys.. I have said everything that needs to be said.
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August 23 2014 14:33 GMT
#1171
Listpost!

Hapahauli:
(1) he is not reading the thread properly or does not understand what he is reading. i understand you people do not know this makes him absolutely mafia but you needto trust me on this one.
(2) his case on me is crap. so very crap. he would NEVER EVER make that case as town.
(3) his read evolvement on yamato is terrible. Hapa can read yamato probably better than i can and there is no way town!Hapa, when starting to post makes a case on me, and then retrects from it to YAMATO! no way. If Hapa though yamato is mafia he would have instantly voted for yamato instead of me.

Xatalos:
Just says stuff that is totally unsmart. He is very very off and i have never seen Xatalos this off regardless of the game. There are very good posts to gather reads yet Xatalos fails to do anything. He has basically no reads. Also i HATE him not answering me directly to my questions... twice. I am pretty sure it makes him mafia.

Onegu:
Says stuff that's very unsmart and i believe him calling me mafia is a ploy to make me townread him. If he was not calling me mafia he would need to lynch Hapahauli instead. Sorry bro, saying "toobadtobescum" shit does not make me think anyone is town anymore.

Damdred:
He is just.. here. Not saying anything smart, +1ing everyone and just going with the flow. I don't like it. At all.

yamato:
I hate the fact yamato engages the thread and then fucks off.. Especially towards me. He shows interest in scumhunting but when it's actually time to say something he quits. He's already done it twice this game.

VayneAuthority:
Looks like his normal townplay. However he is self-aware of his meta and could be faking it. Anyways never a good D1 lynch because it's at best a crapshoot guessing game. When you engage Vayne you have to talk in a specific way and it does not work on D1. You gotta ask him about specific things and not some generic "who is scum Vayne?" questions because he hates them. Someone will probably try to mislynch him this game if he is town.


GB & Turtle:
Claimed masons, makes no sense for them to be mafia.

JAT:
If anyone thinks he is mafia they are retarded.

KSC:
Same as JAT. His opening is the only thing that COULD implicate he is scum but he comes from another forum and other forums play differently (and dumb). People from other places i have seen (than TL, VS and 2p2) are just usually bad and the games start slow and VERY few people are actually good at this shit. KSC seems like he is good, and tbh i would like to know where he has played mafia because there is hope that there is a fourth place where people actually know how to play mafia.

Robik:
I believe Robik is incapable of saying such smart things as mafia. Town for sure.

Wave:
I made a post about why he is town and i think i am right.

Now lynch correctly.
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August 23 2014 14:41 GMT
#1173
I am not talking to scum anymore today.
I have to leave in ~1h so if anyone who is colored green wants to ask something go ahead.
Blame Koshi for this.
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August 23 2014 14:48 GMT
#1179
On August 23 2014 23:43 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not talking to scum anymore today.
I have to leave in ~1h so if anyone who is colored green wants to ask something go ahead.
Blame Koshi for this.


Which smart things is Robik saying? I only see "lol shut up I'm town"

He calls the people who are mafia mafia and town people town.

I guess i should clarify my read on Xatalos. Someone not answering to a question is not necessarily didging the question. I do not talk about stuff i find dumb or irrelevant. I ignore it and never remember it any more unless it makes someone mafia. However, when you quote the EXACT post where someone asks you questions and ANSWER that post by saying something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than the original questions - THAT is dodging the questions.
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August 23 2014 14:51 GMT
#1181
On August 23 2014 23:49 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 23:46 Damdred wrote:
That he's a fucking dick who's just spouting bs and not even reading the thread at this point


Calm down and answer me properly I want his alignment, not his personality

He has thought i am mafia for like all game because "i am so wrong" but still he cannot vote because he would actually need to explain something.

That's the point about just "being here" and not doing shit. Hiding in shadows.
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August 23 2014 14:56 GMT
#1185
3) Just stupid. Experienced scum players NEVER, I repeat NEVER do stuff like hard-defend each other and push stuff together. It's about the same as claiming Masons together. This is what gets newb scumteams killed.

I have proven this statement to be false before Xatalos even made this post...
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August 23 2014 15:02 GMT
#1189
Kelsier could you vote for Hapahauli. I promise you he will flip mafia.
Could you also tell me where you have played mafia? Just because i am curious.
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August 23 2014 15:23 GMT
#1199
On August 24 2014 00:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 23 2014 23:38 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Listpost!

Hapahauli:
(1) he is not reading the thread properly or does not understand what he is reading. i understand you people do not know this makes him absolutely mafia but you needto trust me on this one.
(2) his case on me is crap. so very crap. he would NEVER EVER make that case as town.
(3) his read evolvement on yamato is terrible. Hapa can read yamato probably better than i can and there is no way town!Hapa, when starting to post makes a case on me, and then retrects from it to YAMATO! no way. If Hapa though yamato is mafia he would have instantly voted for yamato instead of me.

Xatalos:
Just says stuff that is totally unsmart. He is very very off and i have never seen Xatalos this off regardless of the game. There are very good posts to gather reads yet Xatalos fails to do anything. He has basically no reads. Also i HATE him not answering me directly to my questions... twice. I am pretty sure it makes him mafia.

Onegu:
Says stuff that's very unsmart and i believe him calling me mafia is a ploy to make me townread him. If he was not calling me mafia he would need to lynch Hapahauli instead. Sorry bro, saying "toobadtobescum" shit does not make me think anyone is town anymore.

Damdred:
He is just.. here. Not saying anything smart, +1ing everyone and just going with the flow. I don't like it. At all.

yamato:
I hate the fact yamato engages the thread and then fucks off.. Especially towards me. He shows interest in scumhunting but when it's actually time to say something he quits. He's already done it twice this game.

VayneAuthority:
Looks like his normal townplay. However he is self-aware of his meta and could be faking it. Anyways never a good D1 lynch because it's at best a crapshoot guessing game. When you engage Vayne you have to talk in a specific way and it does not work on D1. You gotta ask him about specific things and not some generic "who is scum Vayne?" questions because he hates them. Someone will probably try to mislynch him this game if he is town.


GB & Turtle:
Claimed masons, makes no sense for them to be mafia.

JAT:
If anyone thinks he is mafia they are retarded.

KSC:
Same as JAT. His opening is the only thing that COULD implicate he is scum but he comes from another forum and other forums play differently (and dumb). People from other places i have seen (than TL, VS and 2p2) are just usually bad and the games start slow and VERY few people are actually good at this shit. KSC seems like he is good, and tbh i would like to know where he has played mafia because there is hope that there is a fourth place where people actually know how to play mafia.

Robik:
I believe Robik is incapable of saying such smart things as mafia. Town for sure.

Wave:
I made a post about why he is town and i think i am right.

Now lynch correctly.


You have dodged my questions all game though. What does that make you? Besides I think I've answered everything you've asked so far. I even specifically asked you to ask me anything that is unclear to you and you didn't ask anything.


On the bolded part: what is "unsmart" that makes you believe he is doing the same stunt I tried on Arnies?
Also, LOL

He calls me mafia without actually thinking i am mafia.
It is natural for Onegu to go straight into my filter and read it first when he starts playing.
I believe there are four people who should call me strong town at this point because this is my townplay and they know it. They are JAT, yamato, Hapahauli and Onegu.
JAT is a bit paranoid but i will give that to him just because he hasn't really palyed with me THAT much.
Hapa is mafia.
yamato called me town all game, except that when i made a relevant point against him he suddenly started thinking i am mafia? w00T?!?!
Onegu is either very wrong or scum. As i said i believe he is faking his shit because otherwise he would have to agree with me as he respects my play and he probably also thinks it makes me townread him.

Also there is nothing smart Onegu has said. He hasn't even read anything, he hasn't even read my filter. I guarantee you that.
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August 23 2014 15:33 GMT
#1200
And now i am off. I might get back before the deadline, most likely drunk and incoherent so i would advice you all to not read anything i post after this (unless i'll phonepost something in the next couple of hours).

Lynch Hapahauli, i promise you he will flip mafia.
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August 23 2014 16:52 GMT
#1220
I am xapable of having the biggest filter in a game as mafia. Don't usw it to read me.

Wave....
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August 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#1228
On August 24 2014 01:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am xapable of having the biggest filter in a game as mafia. Don't usw it to read me.

Wave....

Don't smile at me you shitter

Are you around?

Yes. For awhile.
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August 23 2014 17:03 GMT
#1235
You're bad.
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August 23 2014 17:27 GMT
#1263
On August 24 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 24 2014 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're bad.

Yeah I'm well aware that you think so. There's nobody in mafia better than you hapa and marv /dicktug

Fact is though, marv at least gets results a lot of the time, without having to resort to what you seem to have to. And even then, he is perfectly capable of completely fucking up a game---see Heavyweight Championships.

Even if I were town in that game I can say with absolute certainty I would not follow marv blind into a lynch like the rest of everyone did, and I never will. The same thing applies now. The fact that you spam and feel the need to try and force town into it in fact makes me want to lynch hapa less just to spite you.

I understand and maybe you are right. Maybe not.

I believe i am right and when i do, i will try to mak peoole believe me.
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August 23 2014 17:35 GMT
#1274
For the rexord i so not care avout what i said about Xatalos and his notes. Bwxause i found mafia and i cannot lynch two mafia in onw day. That's for N1.
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August 23 2014 17:40 GMT
#1287
At least there is one smart dude in this game.
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August 23 2014 18:12 GMT
#1307
On August 24 2014 02:46 turtlevine wrote:
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On August 24 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:38 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Turtle are you completely caught up?


I've once-overed the entire thread
but it's hard to hold in my head
the thread was quite long
but my reading is strong
but much more and I'd probably be dead

Good. Any suspects besides Hapa?


Despite what I say about hapa's alignment,
I've also noticed rayn's decreasing refinement,
his yelling is bothersome and GB wants me to read him,
since he does it regardless of what he rolls on a whim,
but the fact that he made like 200 posts in the first day is still annoying to me...ment.

Depute unvoting him, I still suspect Xat,
who wants to push [urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=65#1292]hapa at the drop of a hat
it's not that he's wrong
it's that the reason's not strong
and given that he's defended hapa so much I can't see him posting that.
[/url]
I am a bit amused you do not strongly think i am town while we are pushing the exact same things....
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August 23 2014 20:09 GMT
#1395
Amagad.
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August 24 2014 01:55 GMT
#1777
Hi! Are you guys voting for hapa?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 01:56 GMT
#1781
nah you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 24 2014 01:58 GMT
#1783
wait what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 24 2014 02:01 GMT
#1786
i am drunk and i have been afk. did you soot the GF?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:02 GMT
#1791
##unvote
##vote:: xatalos
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:07 GMT
#1795
hapa you are bad but... whatever.
i get it. i was bad this game.
i hope you feel bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:10 GMT
#1798
i won't. tomorrow.
now ia am off.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 24 2014 02:12 GMT
#1805
i am town. kill me Hapa. Fuck you were terrible on D1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:25 GMT
#1817
hapa you read me as scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:28 GMT
#1821
On August 24 2014 11:26 yamato77 wrote:
robik's filter not especially helpful

apparently he gives out a bunch of townreads, but then votes onegu without mentioning him much at all. weird. can't read much into anything, tbh, mostly just WIFOM

he also says:

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 23:20 IAmRobik wrote:
We don't need to discuss turtlevine/GB. The SK is going to be forced to resolve it at some point.


that makes me confident the claim is legitimate, especially given GB's push toward Robik that was entirely unnecessary as mafia

you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:29 GMT
#1822
On August 24 2014 11:27 Hapahauli wrote:
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On August 24 2014 11:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hapa you read me as scum?


Totally.

Are you too drunk to remember the bullshit you've posted for the last 24 hours? It is not out of the realm for town-Rayn to call me scum on Day 1. It is out of the realm for town-Rayn for literally every one of your reads to be based on OMGUS, then to come in the thread and act like you haven't read the D1 lynch.

gg then.
lynch me. i was bad.
so were you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:30 GMT
#1824
your read on me was so fucking terrible you remind me of Koshi who is fucking terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:30 GMT
#1825
well yamato is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 24 2014 02:32 GMT
#1828
lynch me scum.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 24 2014 02:34 GMT
#1829
also wave. period.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 24 2014 02:36 GMT
#1833
On August 24 2014 11:35 Hapahauli wrote:
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On August 24 2014 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
your read on me was so fucking terrible you remind me of Koshi who is fucking terrible.


I wasn't aware you were this mentally fragile.

o.o

i am. try me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:40 GMT
#1834
let's kill xaalos.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:50 GMT
#1838
On August 24 2014 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
He's being drunk and retarded and he's going to get banned again.

yes i am trying to get myself modkilled.
Hapa you are terrible. Your red on me is so very bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:50 GMT
#1839
*read
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raynpelikoneet
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August 24 2014 02:53 GMT
#1842
no i won't.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 24 2014 02:57 GMT
#1845
you wasted my time and because of itt i do not care anymore.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:58 GMT
#1846
i also hat myself for misreading robert.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 02:59 GMT
#1847
hate*
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 03:01 GMT
#1851
fuck you i am a cop.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 24 2014 03:02 GMT
#1853
you
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raynpelikoneet
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August 24 2014 03:03 GMT
#1855
just go ahead and cc me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 24 2014 03:04 GMT
#1856
6am . i am off.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 29 2014 10:40 GMT
#3222
On August 29 2014 11:10 Xatalos wrote:
If you liked rayn's approach this game it'll be quite annoying to play with you :D I guess you have the same problem of getting really annoyed when people scumread you. I don't really care too much usually. I always start a bit awkward/scummy as town and then become a universal townread. This game I had my primary objective in using my role though so that never really happened until I claimed.

You said stuff that was just terribly wrong. It has nothing to do with me scumreading you because you are supposed to be better. On D1 you said things i already pointed out. You also said "noone clears their scumbuddies as town EVER!" On N1 you suddenly had a scumread on me for some idk reason... except that me and robik read each other like you had JUST said mafia never does.

On D2 you talked about nothing but SK. I made a post about it in obs QT. You literally said "I think Hapa is SK. Do i think he is SK? No! But let's leave that to later" with 268 words... d00d?!?

Also you should have instantly cc'd Vayne because too many blues. For you Vayne should have been confirmed scum the second he claimed.

I can't help myself calling out stuff that's just plain out stupid and i will push those kinda reads. Like i did with Hapa. Good thing he shot me because i would have probably pushed your lynch on D3 if i was alive and believed Vayne just because you TOTALLY missplayed that situation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 29 2014 10:42 GMT
#3223
Hapa was obviously anti-town from the second he made his first post.
KelsierSC i really liked you. You played really well and i hope to see in future games. I have no idea why anyone thought you were mafia because you were quite obviously town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2014 06:32 GMT
#3256
On August 30 2014 02:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 01:33 Xatalos wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:59 marvellosity wrote:
only thing i read when i briefly clicked on this game was obvtown-Kelsier calling obvtown-Xatalos mafia. Clicked about 5 different times and read a page and it's all I ever saw :p


Even rayn scumread me all game though :/ I thought he was good at reading me but apparently not. I guess only you and Hapa can...


Given Rayn's play this game, you probably shouldn't take too much heed to his advice :3

What was wrong with my play? I voted for the best lynch target on D1 then i died.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 31 2014 06:55 GMT
#3262
Do you think i even read the game properly after i died?
You can't tell someone is playing bad if they are not in the game...
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