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But soon i'll not be in any game so starting asap is fine for me. ![]() | ||
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i am exited. i hope Hapa rolls mafia. ![]() *except with me* | ||
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TL can't get my timezones correct. ![]() What timezone i should use to avoid DST shit? I mean, if i use any GMT+3 it will give me current time 02:blabal. If i use GMT+2 it will give me 00:blabla fuck this shit. | ||
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On August 22 2014 07:37 Xatalos wrote: Ouch, Neat & Tidy Mafia hasn't been neat *or* tidy in recent days :/ People playing that game are awful. Not in this game. Not in this game. | ||
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On August 22 2014 07:36 Xatalos wrote: Btw rayn I sent you a PM about MafiaTools some hours ago I saw it is it okay if i take a better look at it on Sunday? Or hurry? | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:53 KelsierSC wrote: "If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?" Who said this? | ||
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except i have missed the point where someone asked the question i just quoted. | ||
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But you're right, he really didn't have anything useful to say after that. But the thread was not that long. Not a strong read but atm i think he is town. | ||
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Hapa, Onegu, JAT, Xatalos. pretty sure. | ||
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Can you read Wave? | ||
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If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why? Glowingbear explain why you answered the question when you do not even think KSC is necessarily mafia? | ||
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when Hapa posts i am expecting him to tell everyone why i am voting for Wave. ![]() I gotta get back to work now. brb in ~5h. | ||
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Just read GB's filter before Wave's question and think about what can it possibly achieve? Then read GB's response and Wave's followup. W00t?!?!?! ![]() | ||
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not posting at night despite apparently staying up around the deadline... back this up and somehow his reads feel a bit too certain/forced? back this up let's just say null with some concern for now you just called me mafia but i am now null? I'm guessing there's some scum among Hapa/jat/Onegu/VA. Your scumnullread just said pretty much the exact same thing except for VA is most likely town. Why was i scum again? Oh i forgot.. i wasn't, i was null... Like what are you actually saying and how does anything you say make any sense at all? | ||
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You can't call my reads forced when you do not know what my reads are even based on. | ||
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First. If i am town and awake i do post. If i am mafia and awake i do post. If i am town and asleep i can't post. If i am mafia and asleep i can't post. I have never in my life intentionally lurked as mafia (i do that as town though for reasons) except for in Noir when Mocsta fakeclaimed medic as town to get the real medic lynched and i was having ![]() You should know that. Second. I have a tendency to not explain my reads fully because i want to encourage other people to think and find the reasons by themsleves. Because it helps me getting a better read on them and that's how i play - and have always played. You should know that. So yes, your first post had absolutely no thought behind it, even though you SHOULD know these things and pay more attention to what i say and try to figure out why i say the stuff i do. You didn't, and that makes me think you are mafia. | ||
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You just can't call my reads forced when you do not know what i base them on. YOU CAN'T! unless you are scum. | ||
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On August 22 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wave explain the question you asked. Why? | ||
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On August 22 2014 22:35 justanothertownie wrote: That might be part of it but it still is just a completely baseless statement. No it's not i had a townread on everyone who had posted by that time except for Wave. | ||
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On August 22 2014 22:37 justanothertownie wrote: Fine. Why did you townread damdred? Why did you townread Vayne? Damdred was the weakest read from the posters. He started the last game exactly the same way and while it looks scummy that's just how he posts at the start of the game. I see no contrast to his townplay in his posting so i think he is town. Vayne is being Vayne. And town!Vayne. He doesn't give a fuck. He will play later on though. Wave what would have scum!GlowingBear answer to your question? | ||
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On August 18 2014 20:23 Damdred wrote: I saw this post and reread the thread again and Ray never asked me any questions he called me scum a few times, which I think is a shitty case at this point but I can see the merits a fluffy post that results in a null is probably the scummiest thing that has taken place in the thread at this point. And also yea I can say or ask if someone is being silly if I want to you don't run me! | ||
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As scum he is way more focused and plays as he should play as town because he loves playing scum. Which is it this game? | ||
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On August 22 2014 16:48 yamato77 wrote: rayn let's solve the game What he said after that didn't really look like "YAY LET'S SOLVE THE GAME RIGHT HERE!"....... | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote: Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment. I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:15 IAmRobik wrote: Because or but? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The only reason to not care about what someone's saying is if you think they're mafia. If you think he's town then you should care. To make it easier for you: he said that when you're helpful and aggro you're town. When you're not helpful you could be mafia Well JAT covered that already. I didn't think i should answer it anymore. I don't read posts from people who i think are town and who i consider "worthless" because it does not help me find mafia. Especially posts about me. Sorry Xatalos but i think you are quite worthless at the start of the game, maybe for smth like 15-20 first hours. ![]() Same goes for Damdred. I do not read his posts properly until he starts posting properly. If that does not happen then my read might change. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. I think you should reconsider some of your heuristics. Or maybe a bit more than some. ![]() | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh. What do you mean by the bolded? | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Listposts draw attention, having reads basically opposite to everyone else in thread draw attention. So unless he really WASN'T reading the thread, or plays scum like me (I highly doubt it), he's likely not scum. Bad posts are bad posts. People are found out as mafia because of bad posts. You can't just say "look a scummy post this dude is town because no scum would do that" (which i recently got painfully reminded of). I also do not understand your pre-flip association read on Xatalos being town because "everyone has called him scum" when in fact half of the players have not called him scum. | ||
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I gotta reread him tonight. | ||
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On August 22 2014 12:41 GlowingBear wrote: You won't get much from Yamato. Check the games he has played and you'll see that he is not talkative regardless his alignment. Can you tell me why do you feel I'm town? I guess you already said that but I didn't get it clearly. People who post these things always end up being mafia. | ||
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On August 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Which is absolutely fucking retarded, by the way. If Xat and I were both scum I can say with absolute certainty there is NO WAY IN HELL I would let him call me top town based on essentially nothing. Hell I don't think Xat would even be so bad as to try that on his own either. Scum NEVER give each other massive townreads like that. It's completely unheard of. I had to look this up and comment on it. I did that once. It ended up winning the game because Risen is so awesome! ![]() so case debunked. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:45 GlowingBear wrote: Why are you so benevolent here to allow them to try to post more appropriate instead of actually push them? Because it does not help me finding mafia. Why are you concerned about the fact someone townreads you? Are there no reasons to townread you? | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote: So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe. Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you. If me or Hapa says "lynch yamato" you will lynch yamato and not secondguess it for a second. ok? | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:52 KelsierSC wrote: What is a Hapa? You are town for me so I would trust your reads, if Yam posts a bit more maybe I can reevaluate but for me he is town so far. Hapahauli - a player in this game. yamato is really easy to read because he cannot mirror his townplay as scum. I thought he was town early on because i saw stuff that reminds me of his townplay but then he asked me to solve the game with him and did jack shit after that.It is weird. | ||
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On August 22 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote: That's the wrong way. If yamato DOESN'T post a bit more you should reevaluate your townread. ahahahahhahah totes true. 100% | ||
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We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town. Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players. I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly. Is there anyone who thinks they are town? | ||
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And that's why it's more likely that it's a mafia post. | ||
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![]() Xatalos: The difference between JAT town and scumplay is like a day and night. Don't care to elaborate more on this at least yet. I do not understand why would you scumread him? Him not making a big case and voting at this point of the game does not make him mafia. In fact i think it makes him more likely to be town. | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:14 justanothertownie wrote: Huh? I remember this being different. I suggest you read Titanic II where he just bussed and bussed and bussed. And then they fucked up my perfect SK win with the host. ![]() Yes it has not always been so but i am pretty sure it nowadays is. | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote: I really hope you are not scum >_< Of course I am not. Although you'll probably be paranoid about it until N1 start. | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote: you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me. Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave. What's this Xatalos? | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:29 KelsierSC wrote: Because you are both town. Think the lynch is between Xat and GB at the moment. I think WoS has played a lot stronger since the restart and GB has really slipped down. I do not think this is the case with Wave. Basically everything he says is just incorrect or he contradicts himself with what he says earlier. For example he called someone bad/scum for making an association case and then he made a shitty association case himself... | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:28 GlowingBear wrote: It you manage to mislynch me I bet he will be more than paranoid after n1. Just read the thread, play the game and stop whining. | ||
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On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE but still It don't fit. Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now? On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Possible scummers: Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here) Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh. KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie. You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game. | ||
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Do you know something i do not Wave? | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me. Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave. What's this Xatalos? | ||
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You have two weak townreads and i have no idea why you think the people you are mafia are mafia. Enlighten me because you have given us nothing concrete so far. | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:57 Xatalos wrote: No, you are null because you have played pretty similarly as both town and scum in recent games (not explaining stuff + pushing me hard early and then suddenly dropping it + being arrogant and confident in your reads). But i have explained every singe thing i have said in this game.. As it READS IN MY FUCKING POST! | ||
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On August 23 2014 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote: THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID I WAS TALKING ABOUT THREAD SNETIMENT JESUS CHRIST I ALSO MENTIONED PEOPLE WHO ARE AFK AND THEY DIDNT CALL XATALOS SCUM HURR DURR I MUST BE MAFIA Yes because it is definitely possible either: (1) Xatalos just fucked up or/and (2) People who have not posted (+ yamato) are hisscumbuddies, YOU EVEN SAID SO YOURFUCKINGSELF! | ||
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On August 23 2014 01:02 Xatalos wrote: Yeah actually you've been improving in recent pages. Maybe I should put you as +1. I'm still very hesitant to lean town on you because I made that mistake in Titanic and we only got lucky because the Vig randomly killed you. I didn't even fucking play in that game because i was in Helsinki and therefore afk all the time... | ||
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On August 23 2014 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Show me where that's true. I just did. | ||
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What you are doing right now is just trying to discredit me for no reason. It makes no sense to me because what i have said is basically "i have no fucking idea who you think is mafia and why" and "what you say is not making sense to me". The way to conter it is to start making sense, not to discredit someone. Everyone who pushes lynches has lead mislynches. That does not make me bad. For the record i after my break i have voted for mafia in 75% of all my day phases as town. So i am definitely not bad and if i happen/happened to mislynch you it's on YOU because YOU failed to convince the town you are town. | ||
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On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote: rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum? I don't think it makes him any less or more mafia. I jsut want to find one specific game right now so could someone tell me what the fuck was the name of the Nomination World HeavyWeight Champion game? | ||
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I guess i'll go read Damdred again after sauna. | ||
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On August 23 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote: Why must Wave be town rayn? Because Wave does not get butthurt towards me when he is scum. He knows i can (and also might) lynch him if i decide so. there is no reason for him to try to make me angry in case he is scum (and he does not do that as scum). | ||
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On August 23 2014 03:12 Xatalos wrote: That's also why scum tend to try and dodge questions/topic instead of lying about it. Which fits to you in this game. | ||
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I am pretty sure this proves Xatalos' alignment in a way or another. | ||
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On August 23 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote: Btw rayn the last time that I remember you pulling a stunt like this you were mafia. I have legitmately no idea what you are talking about. If you can't see the town motivation behind this then i do not know what to say. | ||
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On August 23 2014 03:47 justanothertownie wrote: I see it but I also remember TL Noir where you made me post my spreadsheet. And i would have done that as town aswell. What's the poi9nt? | ||
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When i am back i am going to re-read the thread with his notes on side and see if they make sense timewise and match up with his actions in thread at those times. | ||
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On August 23 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote: There is no point it just really remembered me of that incident. Yeah i also made BH modkilling his whole mason group by pushing him to give the logs. as town. ![]() now srsly off for a while. i got more beer now and i am happy ^^ | ||
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On August 23 2014 04:32 Damdred wrote: Seriously why are you lying about me Ray, nobody said the stuff about GB that I did (who cares if GB is town was still new content), I made a case about WoS slow pushing a wagon onto me without committing to it nobody had posted about that for sure. I tried to get into a discussion with Xata about his reads earlier and while the things about you sleeping were talked about before hand, I still got updated information out of Xata rather than the old rehashed read people were ripping him for. And we got to the GB stuff and talked about wave a bit. While I am covering what comes to mind, I say all of this to end with. Why are you making generalized statements that aren't true? Its truly scum motivated to get someone who is atleast commenting in the thread lynched over a lie....so i'm just confused I guess Can you even fucking have balls to call someone scum i nthis game? If you think i am scum then call me fucking scum. | ||
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On August 23 2014 04:38 Xatalos wrote: Well GB is almost certain town and I think WOS is town too but the point still stands that Damdred showed original thoughts in several posts. As i said no. He wrote a post where he says why GB is mafia but then he says he has a townread on him. And again, defending oneself is NOT content. All Damdred is saying about Wave is he is "slowly trying to push a lynch on him" which is not scummy, not even a fact but just his interpretation of the situation because besides pushing his lynch Wave has been butthurt with me. | ||
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re-entry post and where he asked me whether WoS was mafia or not and then promptly went to bed and has had no follow up on that post earlier its strange that it seemed like an important exchange in finding each others alignments but it seems to be quickly forgotten. Also instead of waiting for me to respond to his earlier question he immediately qued on an odd post I made and then retreated to bed shortly before I responded and still hasn't drawn conclusions from the posts. So yes I disagree with your stronger town read currently, I have a falling town lean after re-reading GBs filter. Like read this... | ||
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Be a man and vote for your scumread and see what happens. | ||
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Hapa is mafia. Lynch me it's okay. Lynch Hapa after me you get 1-1. | ||
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NEVER. He is incapable of doing so because he is as good as a player as marv (who two i consider to be the best players of mafia ever as town). He does pick on my "bad" posts. He does ignore my posts i SPECIFICALLY tell him to adress.. Lynch Hapa. He is scum. | ||
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No need to answer yamato, just vote for me and see how it flows. | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:54 Hapahauli wrote: I mean... I'm not sure why you want me to address posts you made on WoS when you unvoted him half a day ago. But if it gets you to actually defend yourself, I can oblige. This is so fucking bad. I said "i want Hapa to comment on this". I changed my read on Wave -> means i do not want you to comment on it any more because it does not make any sense. You say -> "WOW THIS SO BAD!" dude you so scum. you do not do this as town. you actually do know when pushes/questioning ends and you do not push retarded shit like this. YOU JUST DO NOT. you are mafia. | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:58 Damdred wrote: Rayn a towny wouldn't go down like this. Fight with logic and show you are town rather than with petty insults that will just get people angry and vote you stfu scum. | ||
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Like JAT. I am so bad at this shit. I cannot explain myself. I just know who is mafia and who is not. | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:00 Hapahauli wrote: For the record, I did post my thoughts on wave last page. I wasn't aware that the process of pushing/questioning players had to end before the player I'm pushing enters the thread. Who wouldda thought. The thing is you are not looking at the full thought process. You are looking at some shit that fits your agenda. You answer / call me scum for things that are overdated. You do not do that as town. You just do not. Three sentences. Why am i mafia? | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:01 Hapahauli wrote: So other than myself, who is the mafia and who is not? I need to find one mafia / day because i cannot lynch more than one mafia / phase. | ||
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(1) I was never soft-pushing yamato. if you think i was soft-pushing him you have been soft pushing every fucking player in the game and it makes you 12x mafia. (2) false (3) false | ||
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Xatalos idk.. yamato? like wtf is he doing? i want him to play. not just +1 and *sucksucksuck* on someone's dick. bleh. Damdred still susp. Other ppl town except for Onegu who is afk. | ||
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I am telling who is mafia. I do not care if i get lynched. Make a fucking case and push it you fucktard. | ||
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Lynch the other one on D2 if you hit wrong. I guarantee you 1-1 trade because Hapa and me are not bad at this game and if there is a scumread from one of us on another it's because one of us is mafia. Like really. I do not consider ANYONE in the world a better player than i am - except for marv and Hapa. Hapa is not this bad, and i am willing to lynch myself to prove it. | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:15 yamato77 wrote: rayn do you think I'm mafia? for the reasons i stated earlier on you look scummy. if you think i am scum you look even more scummy. there are three people who should read me town at this point. you, hapa and JAT. you did... earlier on. JAT is fucking paranoid.. Hapa is mafia. Are you mafia too? | ||
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He does not state why he thinks i am scum. He just says stuff without saying why it is scummy. | ||
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I promise he will flip mafia otherwise you can lynch me on D2. I PROMISE! | ||
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He is saying shit that does not hold water. Hapa does not do that as town. EVEREVER! He said i voted for Xatalos for something i did not. My vote was on GB. [u]GB CLAIMED MASON WITH TURTLE. 'That's why i unvoted. read hapa's case, he paints this as something else and i was voting for xatalos and just "changeing my mind without any reason". REad the case!!!! hapa does not do this as town!! NEVER NVER EVER![/b] | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:29 justanothertownie wrote: I won't decide on that today. I am rather lost right now but at least there are clearly some factions showing right now. I was lost but not any more. Hapahauli is mafia. 100%. I am giving you 100%.!!!!!!!! I promise you he is mafia for my belonging in this game. he is mafia. this is like marv reading me. Don't be fucking idiot.- | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:31 Hapahauli wrote: Oh geezus fuck I forgot that GB got confirmed mason around that time. Yeah that's my bad. You can remove that portion from the case, but I think the basic point stands: RE Yamato: the point isn't that he asked reasonable questions - that much I fully acknowledge. The point is that he went from that good observation (Yamato disappearing after "lets solve the game") into basically forgetting about it and talking about other random stuff. The basic point I'm trying to make is that a town Rayn's mentality would not forget something like that. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() amagaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddddd: SSSSSSSASASARTFSFD:C | ||
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just kill me and i will tell you who is scum. I will not be voting for a townie anyways <3 | ||
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i am just amazed how you guys buy Hapa's crap. ![]() | ||
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but tbh, hapa is not aplayer who posts crap. he is mafia when he posts crap. he is mafia. | ||
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HE IS MAFIA. PERIOD. | ||
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Hapahauli is mafia. I am giving you a scum D1 lynch. Follow me- | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:49 Hapahauli wrote: Out of curiosity Rayn, have I ever played a game with you where we were both town? I've been trying to look if I had any meta posts in my past games on you, but haven't found a game o.o Desert mini mafia. | ||
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Just go and try to lynch me before we lynch you. ![]() I know you better you know ^_^ | ||
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hapa (scum) yamato (scum?) JAT (paranoid- fuck you JAT) mmm.. kil hapa. kill hapa.- always kill hapa- | ||
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It is all i have to say on this phase. Kill him. Kill mafia. | ||
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On August 23 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote: Rayn, let's assume I believe you for a moment. Why does scum Hapa antagonize townrayn like that? He has to know how this goes. Because scum!Hapa is awful and town!Hapa is awesome. | ||
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it is also scum!yamato if he does not realize it. | ||
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Go vote for the dude you think is more likely to be scum so i can tell who is mafia and not be just a dickhead. | ||
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On August 23 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote: Do you really claim that scum Hapa would choose pushing town rayn as his gameplan? No i am claiming town!Hapa would NEVER do that. | ||
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If you do not you are mafia. Then you can die. | ||
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On August 23 2014 08:24 Hapahauli wrote: You're no fun =/ Anyway, Yamato His lackluster day one has been touched on already. However, how he responded to my case on Rayn brings some suspicious things to light. Firstly, this: This is very out-of-character for town Yamato. He's not a player with confidence problems. On the contrary, he's usually very self-confident in his reads and opinionated (although not very active). Any lack of posting he has in his games isn't due to lack of confidence, but generally for lack of effort. Also, when Rayn re-enters the thread, he posts this... ...and then is gone. Just gone. The guy who you're convinced is mafia is under pressure and returned to the thread. You have been excited for the last half-hour over this. And when he returns... one question and out. ahh so the person who answers to your scumcase can be now mafia? ![]() you're better than this. | ||
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Sheep me or him. Because we are the best players in this game as yamato decided to fuck off. If we both read each other as scum one of us is scum. And it's Hapa. Because he is too bad to be town. TOO FUCKING BAD TO BE TOWN! | ||
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hapa is mafia. hapa is mafia. hapa is mafia. hapa is mafia. | ||
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Then i will tell you who is mafia besides Hapa. | ||
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I have mafia who is undetectable to other ppl. | ||
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On August 23 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote: RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato) It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on. rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you? yes. | ||
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On August 23 2014 09:39 yamato77 wrote: Hapa seemed relatively genuine in his posting. I don't know who I want to lynch right now. Lynching rayn is attractive but also a waste of the day at this point. I want to revisit my read on wave later when I have time to sit at my computer bullshit. Hapa would never ever call me mafia in this game if he was town. NEVER! | ||
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On August 23 2014 10:11 Xatalos wrote: I just realized that rayn never followed up with his "ultimate plan" of reading me using the MafiaTools stunt... What's up with that rayn??? I do not care about it because i found mafia already. Nothing is going to change my mind on this so i am pushing my lynch on D1 and will not be distracted about anything. | ||
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On August 23 2014 14:39 GlowingBear wrote: Do you know who Turtlevine is? Because I don't. Rayn, let me ask you a drunkie question: if you were going to point out who is the serial killer, who would you say? I do not hunt for SK before scum. I just do not think it's useful. | ||
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On August 23 2014 07:17 Hapahauli wrote: [...] Two strong quotes on GlowingBear. You seem convinced that GlowingBear is scum. You vote him the next day and bring up strong points on him. And then... You never drop your read on GB. You just sorta spontaneously decide to go on Xatalos. | ||
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![]() Hapahauli is mafia. He would never call me scum if he was town, AT LEAST not without reading the thread properly. Yes i can prove that he hasn't done so. | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:09 GlowingBear wrote: She was horrible. But I said she was beautiful and she gave us 3 free vodka shots for that. I think I would die out of coma if I kissed her. hahaha. ![]() you should sleep. i should also sleep because i woke up after having a "nap" for like 3 hours and i feel awful and tired atm. | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:07 GlowingBear wrote: I get this. He could be unaware while reading your filter. I wouldn't call him mafia just for that. I would call him mafia for quickly dropping you out for an useless argument, even bringing valid points against you also there is nothing valid in his points against me. | ||
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We can talk. ![]() You remind me of Koshi before he went and switched onto full retard mode. I am a bit sad for that. Not for you but for him. ![]() | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:15 GlowingBear wrote: No, they were valid. I also had a scumread on you. But I think I could be OMGUSing. I have to read through your indents 10 filter page yet. But I'd pick you as townie rather hapa. I swear you they are not. Maybe for someone who does not know me well enough but for anyone who knows me they are not. Your mason partner will come in and call Hapa mafia and prove it. ^^ | ||
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He is not focused onto the game. I do not care about him calling me mafia. I care about him calling me mafia for shit reasons when he hasn't even read the thread properly. | ||
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I was called mafia for many people in that game yet still Hapa listened to me. He hadn't caught up and he didn't make any conclusions before he had caught up with the game because he was scared of being wrong (before reading properly). there is just no way Hapa is going to jump on conclusions before reading properly. no way. | ||
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On August 23 2014 09:39 yamato77 wrote: Hapa seemed relatively genuine in his posting. I don't know who I want to lynch right now. Lynching rayn is attractive but also a waste of the day at this point. I want to revisit my read on wave later when I have time to sit at my computer I do not get this post yamato. Just because what you say about Hapa is completely wrong. Could you elaborate more? | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote: there were emotionally genuine things in hapa's posts that I find genuine has nothing to do with content or reads it's weak but I don't want to lynch into you/hapa today at all really talk to me about wave I do not believe Wave is mafia because he wouldn't get all butthurt on me as scum. He has never done it and before i am proven wrong i do not think he will. I do not think you are right on Hapa. When is the last time you have seen Hapa make a post without reading and analyzing the thread properly - as town? | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote: It's weak but I don't want to lynch into you/hapa today at all really I also do not like this because you are not this kinda dude yamato. You lynch people you think are mafia. Why so scared? | ||
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Hapa is one of the few players who is REALLY good in reading into this. He just cannot do that as mafia because idk why, he just can't. Probably because he hates being mafia. In this game he is clearly showing he is not thinking about the game and those things - even though i have, in THIS GAME, said this is EXACTLY how i play. Even if it was not clear to him before this game THIS GAME SHOULD PROVE i am telling the truth. He is not figuring out stuff how he would as town. I do not know how to explain it better as i am bad at explaining shit. I however promised to play my best game this game and as my alignment is town you should kill Hapa with fire because he is mafia. I will tell who the rest of the mafia team is on N1. Now we lynch Hapahauli. | ||
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Swag is probably mafia because he wants to talk about SK and mafia wants to hunt for third parties as it's genuine "scumhunting". Or was it jepg. Anyways the dude who was sk-hunting earlier. jepg has been night killed. He was Tara Reid's Grown Ass Son Who Flies Helicopters Into Tornadoes Filled With Sharks With Bombs Cause LOL, Mafia Night 2 Vigilante. I am pretty sure Xatalos is scum because of it. Now let me find the third one. | ||
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I am not voting for anyone else until Hapa dies. Xatalos is also mafia. 80% sure Onegu is also mafia. People who can read me do not misread me in this game. They just don't. I also have a bar night tonight so i can't be online @ the deadline. It doesn't really matter because i already found scum. If you do not believe me not voting mafia is on you guys.. I have said everything that needs to be said. | ||
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Hapahauli: (1) he is not reading the thread properly or does not understand what he is reading. i understand you people do not know this makes him absolutely mafia but you needto trust me on this one. (2) his case on me is crap. so very crap. he would NEVER EVER make that case as town. (3) his read evolvement on yamato is terrible. Hapa can read yamato probably better than i can and there is no way town!Hapa, when starting to post makes a case on me, and then retrects from it to YAMATO! no way. If Hapa though yamato is mafia he would have instantly voted for yamato instead of me. Xatalos: Just says stuff that is totally unsmart. He is very very off and i have never seen Xatalos this off regardless of the game. There are very good posts to gather reads yet Xatalos fails to do anything. He has basically no reads. Also i HATE him not answering me directly to my questions... twice. I am pretty sure it makes him mafia. Onegu: Says stuff that's very unsmart and i believe him calling me mafia is a ploy to make me townread him. If he was not calling me mafia he would need to lynch Hapahauli instead. Sorry bro, saying "toobadtobescum" shit does not make me think anyone is town anymore. Damdred: He is just.. here. Not saying anything smart, +1ing everyone and just going with the flow. I don't like it. At all. yamato: I hate the fact yamato engages the thread and then fucks off.. Especially towards me. He shows interest in scumhunting but when it's actually time to say something he quits. He's already done it twice this game. VayneAuthority: Looks like his normal townplay. However he is self-aware of his meta and could be faking it. Anyways never a good D1 lynch because it's at best a crapshoot guessing game. When you engage Vayne you have to talk in a specific way and it does not work on D1. You gotta ask him about specific things and not some generic "who is scum Vayne?" questions because he hates them. Someone will probably try to mislynch him this game if he is town. GB & Turtle: Claimed masons, makes no sense for them to be mafia. JAT: If anyone thinks he is mafia they are retarded. KSC: Same as JAT. His opening is the only thing that COULD implicate he is scum but he comes from another forum and other forums play differently (and dumb). People from other places i have seen (than TL, VS and 2p2) are just usually bad and the games start slow and VERY few people are actually good at this shit. KSC seems like he is good, and tbh i would like to know where he has played mafia because there is hope that there is a fourth place where people actually know how to play mafia. ![]() Robik: I believe Robik is incapable of saying such smart things as mafia. Town for sure. Wave: I made a post about why he is town and i think i am right. Now lynch correctly. | ||
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On August 23 2014 23:43 GlowingBear wrote: Which smart things is Robik saying? I only see "lol shut up I'm town" He calls the people who are mafia mafia and town people town. I guess i should clarify my read on Xatalos. Someone not answering to a question is not necessarily didging the question. I do not talk about stuff i find dumb or irrelevant. I ignore it and never remember it any more unless it makes someone mafia. However, when you quote the EXACT post where someone asks you questions and ANSWER that post by saying something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than the original questions - THAT is dodging the questions. | ||
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On August 23 2014 23:49 GlowingBear wrote: Calm down and answer me properly ![]() He has thought i am mafia for like all game because "i am so wrong" but still he cannot vote because he would actually need to explain something. ![]() That's the point about just "being here" and not doing shit. Hiding in shadows. | ||
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3) Just stupid. Experienced scum players NEVER, I repeat NEVER do stuff like hard-defend each other and push stuff together. It's about the same as claiming Masons together. This is what gets newb scumteams killed. I have proven this statement to be false before Xatalos even made this post... | ||
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On August 24 2014 00:15 GlowingBear wrote: On the bolded part: what is "unsmart" that makes you believe he is doing the same stunt I tried on Arnies? Also, LOL He calls me mafia without actually thinking i am mafia. It is natural for Onegu to go straight into my filter and read it first when he starts playing. I believe there are four people who should call me strong town at this point because this is my townplay and they know it. They are JAT, yamato, Hapahauli and Onegu. JAT is a bit paranoid but i will give that to him just because he hasn't really palyed with me THAT much. Hapa is mafia. yamato called me town all game, except that when i made a relevant point against him he suddenly started thinking i am mafia? w00T?!?! Onegu is either very wrong or scum. As i said i believe he is faking his shit because otherwise he would have to agree with me as he respects my play and he probably also thinks it makes me townread him. Also there is nothing smart Onegu has said. He hasn't even read anything, he hasn't even read my filter. I guarantee you that. | ||
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On August 24 2014 01:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Don't smile at me you shitter ![]() Are you around? Yes. For awhile. | ||
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On August 24 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah I'm well aware that you think so. There's nobody in mafia better than you hapa and marv /dicktug Fact is though, marv at least gets results a lot of the time, without having to resort to what you seem to have to. And even then, he is perfectly capable of completely fucking up a game---see Heavyweight Championships. Even if I were town in that game I can say with absolute certainty I would not follow marv blind into a lynch like the rest of everyone did, and I never will. The same thing applies now. The fact that you spam and feel the need to try and force town into it in fact makes me want to lynch hapa less just to spite you. I understand and maybe you are right. Maybe not. I believe i am right and when i do, i will try to mak peoole believe me. | ||
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On August 24 2014 02:46 turtlevine wrote: [/url]Despite what I say about hapa's alignment, I've also noticed rayn's decreasing refinement, his yelling is bothersome and GB wants me to read him, since he does it regardless of what he rolls on a whim, but the fact that he made like 200 posts in the first day is still annoying to me...ment. Depute unvoting him, I still suspect Xat, who wants to push [urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=65#1292]hapa at the drop of a hat it's not that he's wrong it's that the reason's not strong and given that he's defended hapa so much I can't see him posting that. I am a bit amused you do not strongly think i am town while we are pushing the exact same things.... | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:26 yamato77 wrote: robik's filter not especially helpful apparently he gives out a bunch of townreads, but then votes onegu without mentioning him much at all. weird. can't read much into anything, tbh, mostly just WIFOM he also says: that makes me confident the claim is legitimate, especially given GB's push toward Robik that was entirely unnecessary as mafia you are scum. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:27 Hapahauli wrote: Totally. Are you too drunk to remember the bullshit you've posted for the last 24 hours? It is not out of the realm for town-Rayn to call me scum on Day 1. It is out of the realm for town-Rayn for literally every one of your reads to be based on OMGUS, then to come in the thread and act like you haven't read the D1 lynch. gg then. lynch me. i was bad. so were you. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:35 Hapahauli wrote: I wasn't aware you were this mentally fragile. o.o i am. try me. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote: He's being drunk and retarded and he's going to get banned again. yes i am trying to get myself modkilled. Hapa you are terrible. Your red on me is so very bad. ![]() | ||
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On August 29 2014 11:10 Xatalos wrote: If you liked rayn's approach this game it'll be quite annoying to play with you :D I guess you have the same problem of getting really annoyed when people scumread you. I don't really care too much usually. I always start a bit awkward/scummy as town and then become a universal townread. This game I had my primary objective in using my role though so that never really happened until I claimed. You said stuff that was just terribly wrong. It has nothing to do with me scumreading you because you are supposed to be better. On D1 you said things i already pointed out. You also said "noone clears their scumbuddies as town EVER!" On N1 you suddenly had a scumread on me for some idk reason... except that me and robik read each other like you had JUST said mafia never does. On D2 you talked about nothing but SK. I made a post about it in obs QT. You literally said "I think Hapa is SK. Do i think he is SK? No! But let's leave that to later" with 268 words... d00d?!? ![]() Also you should have instantly cc'd Vayne because too many blues. For you Vayne should have been confirmed scum the second he claimed. I can't help myself calling out stuff that's just plain out stupid and i will push those kinda reads. Like i did with Hapa. Good thing he shot me because i would have probably pushed your lynch on D3 if i was alive and believed Vayne just because you TOTALLY missplayed that situation. | ||
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On August 30 2014 02:50 Hapahauli wrote: Given Rayn's play this game, you probably shouldn't take too much heed to his advice :3 What was wrong with my play? I voted for the best lynch target on D1 then i died. | ||
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