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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
August 20 2014 04:45 GMT
#7
/in
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 02:04 GMT
#999
Crap didnt realize this started already. Ill spend the day catching up. 50 pages huh... Is the smurf Marv? Alright give me a bit and ill catch up.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:22 GMT
#1076
On August 23 2014 19:46 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 11:04 Onegu wrote:
Crap didnt realize this started already. Ill spend the day catching up. 50 pages huh... Is the smurf Marv? Alright give me a bit and ill catch up.


This has already taken like 10 hours...?



I had to clean the house, anyway Ill slowly read everything but not now. If you dont like it oh well.

Rayn I dont know what has happened so far in this game but I dont like how you threw out how people should read you by looking at the deeper meaning, which means you are going to deep and dont actually believe what you are writeing.

Also why point me out as SK i think it was damandred, like often I see who goes after me for being late. And the people who do are usally mafia. Most people want me to come back and get active which I will do now, but comeing after me now is really weak.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:24 GMT
#1077
We have masons? How did I get VT with scum, SK and masons and other PRs... I never roll PRs.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:26 GMT
#1078
I never understood lynching a lurker day 1 anyway. Day 2 I get ot but still.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:30 GMT
#1082
On August 23 2014 20:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 20:24 Onegu wrote:
We have masons? How did I get VT with scum, SK and masons and other PRs... I never roll PRs.


I know the feeling


I do roll scum more often than anyone else on this site though.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:31 GMT
#1083
Xata if there is 2 filters that are the most important to figureing out this game which 2 should I read.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:39 GMT
#1086
On August 23 2014 20:33 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. I don't really think you can form solid reads only reading through filters in a vacuum. You miss all the thread trends and such. But let me think for a bit about 2 "most important"...



No I havent even started I started cleanimg house getting ready to go back to USA. I will read everything, but not completely until most likely tonight.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:45 GMT
#1088
I will read rayn as I am confident in my ability to read him. Also will read one of your grey followed by the thread as a whole.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:46 GMT
#1089
Why are they confirmed?
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 11:52 GMT
#1093
On August 23 2014 20:48 Xatalos wrote:
How do you read rayn btw? My heuristics for reading him are a bit... lacking.



He has to believe what he is writeing, if you ever get the feeling he is off on something he is prolly mafia. I have correctly read him in every game I've played with him. He pushes things and goes on random tangents as both alignments, he can be right and wrong but you have to look for belief in his passion. Its there if you see it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 12:01 GMT
#1098
Yeah rayn Im reading you scum this game buddy, here is why. Normally you will be like scum rayn doesnt do this, scum rayn never does that. This game you are posting specific reasons to read you. I saw it on page 51 that I just pointed out and page 2 of your filter.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 12:03 GMT
#1099
On August 23 2014 20:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 20:52 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 20:48 Xatalos wrote:
How do you read rayn btw? My heuristics for reading him are a bit... lacking.



He has to believe what he is writeing, if you ever get the feeling he is off on something he is prolly mafia. I have correctly read him in every game I've played with him. He pushes things and goes on random tangents as both alignments, he can be right and wrong but you have to look for belief in his passion. Its there if you see it.


I get the feeling he believes in how he's pushing Hapa. But I didn't get that feeling when he was pushing Damdred :/



Thats the thing town Rayn believes everything he writes you can follow it, hes pasionate about it you can feel it from his posts all of them.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 12:06 GMT
#1100
On August 23 2014 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 23 2014 07:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Out of curiosity Rayn, have I ever played a game with you where we were both town? I've been trying to look if I had any meta posts in my past games on you, but haven't found a game o.o

Desert mini mafia.

<3
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 12:17 GMT
#1101
On August 23 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I AM FUCKING MAKING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME TO VOTE FOR ME OR HAPAHAULI! BECAUSE HAPA IS MAFIA!
get rekt son.




##:VOTE: Raynpelikoneet
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 12:58 GMT
#1114
On August 23 2014 21:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 21:17 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I AM FUCKING MAKING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME TO VOTE FOR ME OR HAPAHAULI! BECAUSE HAPA IS MAFIA!
get rekt son.




##:VOTE: Raynpelikoneet


Please, explain.



I did explain.


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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:06 GMT
#1120
On August 22 2014 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Two things:

First. If i am town and awake i do post. If i am mafia and awake i do post. If i am town and asleep i can't post. If i am mafia and asleep i can't post. I have never in my life intentionally lurked as mafia (i do that as town though for reasons) except for in Noir when Mocsta fakeclaimed medic as town to get the real medic lynched and i was having in scum QT with Pandain.
You should know that.

Second. I have a tendency to not explain my reads fully because i want to encourage other people to think and find the reasons by themsleves. Because it helps me getting a better read on them and that's how i play - and have always played.
You should know that.

So yes, your first post had absolutely no thought behind it, even though you SHOULD know these things and pay more attention to what i say and try to figure out why i say the stuff i do. You didn't, and that makes me think you are mafia.



On August 23 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, i know my posts appear as bad or scummy sometimes because i do not explain myself. That is NOT scummy. All the good players do know that because they look behind the actual words - they look at the meaning of the words. Why people say the stuff they do. I ALWAYS have an agenda for the stuff i say whether or not i explain it.

Hapa is one of the few players who is REALLY good in reading into this. He just cannot do that as mafia because idk why, he just can't. Probably because he hates being mafia. In this game he is clearly showing he is not thinking about the game and those things - even though i have, in THIS GAME, said this is EXACTLY how i play. Even if it was not clear to him before this game THIS GAME SHOULD PROVE i am telling the truth.

He is not figuring out stuff how he would as town. I do not know how to explain it better as i am bad at explaining shit.
I however promised to play my best game this game and as my alignment is town you should kill Hapa with fire because he is mafia. I will tell who the rest of the mafia team is on N1. Now we lynch Hapahauli.



These are the 2 posts I am talking about. A town rayn is going to yell at you and tell you how stupid you are because "scum rayn never does this" Scum rayn will never do that"
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:07 GMT
#1121
On August 23 2014 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck it it is just Onegu because he is scumreading me when i am town.
game solved.



Lol, please rayn remember how I was talking about if you believe things or nor, its not possible for you to scum read me from attacking you and believe it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:24 GMT
#1131
On August 23 2014 22:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 21:58 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:17 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I AM FUCKING MAKING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME TO VOTE FOR ME OR HAPAHAULI! BECAUSE HAPA IS MAFIA!
get rekt son.




##:VOTE: Raynpelikoneet


Please, explain.



I did explain.




Sorry, if this is an example of how Rayn lacks passion in this game, it's terrible lol



He always has passion but does he believe what he is writeing? No he doesnt. You cant read his filter and tell me he believes his pushes.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:24 GMT
#1132
On August 23 2014 22:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 20:24 Onegu wrote:
We have masons? How did I get VT with scum, SK and masons and other PRs... I never roll PRs.


This post of yours is horrible. Why saying you're VT?



Why not?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:26 GMT
#1134
Also Kempachi rule
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:29 GMT
#1138
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:34 GMT
#1140
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 13:35 GMT
#1141
Doesnt make much sense to say as town either?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 14:13 GMT
#1158
On August 23 2014 22:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:24 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:58 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:17 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I AM FUCKING MAKING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME TO VOTE FOR ME OR HAPAHAULI! BECAUSE HAPA IS MAFIA!
get rekt son.




##:VOTE: Raynpelikoneet


Please, explain.



I did explain.




Sorry, if this is an example of how Rayn lacks passion in this game, it's terrible lol



He always has passion but does he believe what he is writeing? No he doesnt. You cant read his filter and tell me he believes his pushes.


Why do you come to the thread, say you're good at reading Rayn and how to read Rayn, then convientely finds something on him AFTER coming up on how Rayn acts, and completely ignores the rest if the thread?



Im not ignoreing the rest of the thread. I just havent read before page 50. I saw on page 51 something that struck me off as scummy for rayn. Said I could read him to xata. Read his filter found more off to me, called him scum and voted him.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 14:15 GMT
#1159
On August 23 2014 22:36 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?


Think about it a little though. It's almost impossible that they would both survive until LYLO (SK bullets, blue powers etc. could easily reveal one of them and then the other one is 100% dead as well) and even if they did, they'd be pretty much auto-lynch at LYLO.



Yes this is true if both are mafia, but how is it impossible that is one town and one scum, unless both of them are saying in thier PM that they are confirmed masoned with another town.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 14:23 GMT
#1164
Gb and turtle can you please just tell me if your PM says that both of you are confirmed town masons? Ill read and catch up or at least skim it all over tonight.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 14:26 GMT
#1166
On August 23 2014 23:22 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 23:13 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:24 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:58 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:17 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I AM FUCKING MAKING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME TO VOTE FOR ME OR HAPAHAULI! BECAUSE HAPA IS MAFIA!
get rekt son.




##:VOTE: Raynpelikoneet


Please, explain.



I did explain.




Sorry, if this is an example of how Rayn lacks passion in this game, it's terrible lol



He always has passion but does he believe what he is writeing? No he doesnt. You cant read his filter and tell me he believes his pushes.


Why do you come to the thread, say you're good at reading Rayn and how to read Rayn, then convientely finds something on him AFTER coming up on how Rayn acts, and completely ignores the rest if the thread?



Im not ignoreing the rest of the thread. I just havent read before page 50. I saw on page 51 something that struck me off as scummy for rayn. Said I could read him to xata. Read his filter found more off to me, called him scum and voted him.

So basically youare ignoringthe thread and just filter dived tayn to find out if he was scummy out of context instead of in the tgread? Cool



Yup. And I didnt look for things out of context thats not how I read rayn. I dont need context on how things were going before, I read his words and mood and feelings. Nothing I picked out has anything to do in context with the rest of the thread. Even if I read the thread normally first the reasons I picked out would still be picked out because with rayn the context isnt important.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 14:27 GMT
#1167
On August 23 2014 23:24 Damdred wrote:
They already answered that if you had read the thread instead of trying to just filter dive rayn you would know tgis



Then just tell me. Jeez is it hard?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 15:15 GMT
#1196
On August 23 2014 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Listpost!

Hapahauli:
(1) he is not reading the thread properly or does not understand what he is reading. i understand you people do not know this makes him absolutely mafia but you needto trust me on this one.
(2) his case on me is crap. so very crap. he would NEVER EVER make that case as town.
(3) his read evolvement on yamato is terrible. Hapa can read yamato probably better than i can and there is no way town!Hapa, when starting to post makes a case on me, and then retrects from it to YAMATO! no way. If Hapa though yamato is mafia he would have instantly voted for yamato instead of me.

Xatalos:
Just says stuff that is totally unsmart. He is very very off and i have never seen Xatalos this off regardless of the game. There are very good posts to gather reads yet Xatalos fails to do anything. He has basically no reads. Also i HATE him not answering me directly to my questions... twice. I am pretty sure it makes him mafia.

Onegu:
Says stuff that's very unsmart and i believe him calling me mafia is a ploy to make me townread him. If he was not calling me mafia he would need to lynch Hapahauli instead. Sorry bro, saying "toobadtobescum" shit does not make me think anyone is town anymore.

Damdred:
He is just.. here. Not saying anything smart, +1ing everyone and just going with the flow. I don't like it. At all.

yamato:
I hate the fact yamato engages the thread and then fucks off.. Especially towards me. He shows interest in scumhunting but when it's actually time to say something he quits. He's already done it twice this game.

VayneAuthority:
Looks like his normal townplay. However he is self-aware of his meta and could be faking it. Anyways never a good D1 lynch because it's at best a crapshoot guessing game. When you engage Vayne you have to talk in a specific way and it does not work on D1. You gotta ask him about specific things and not some generic "who is scum Vayne?" questions because he hates them. Someone will probably try to mislynch him this game if he is town.


GB & Turtle:
Claimed masons, makes no sense for them to be mafia.

JAT:
If anyone thinks he is mafia they are retarded.

KSC:
Same as JAT. His opening is the only thing that COULD implicate he is scum but he comes from another forum and other forums play differently (and dumb). People from other places i have seen (than TL, VS and 2p2) are just usually bad and the games start slow and VERY few people are actually good at this shit. KSC seems like he is good, and tbh i would like to know where he has played mafia because there is hope that there is a fourth place where people actually know how to play mafia.

Robik:
I believe Robik is incapable of saying such smart things as mafia. Town for sure.

Wave:
I made a post about why he is town and i think i am right.

Now lynch correctly.



Lol rayn you know thats not how I play scum day 1. Give me a break.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 18:25 GMT
#1308
On August 24 2014 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am xapable of having the biggest filter in a game as mafia. Don't usw it to read me.

Wave....

I'm telling you this isn't a town Rayn post. I'll be reading the entire thread now.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 18:30 GMT
#1310
On August 24 2014 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:29 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:28 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Xatalos, what about Onegus entrance was good?


The fact that he immediately focused on interacting with me and talking about which filters would be important to read etc., then actually went to read rayn and brought additional points for him being scum.


Show me what good points Xata, most of what he brought to the thread had been talked about before and as someone who Rayn says can always read him and he self claims he can read rayn he doesn't bring a ton to the thread in the way of a read when rayn has a lot of pages to draw from.

Don't put any stock in what Onegu says about his ability to read people (-> Holyflare in the last game).



Much much much more confidant in my ability to read Rayn.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 24 2014 14:37 GMT
#1901
Night post, im on page 28 when I fell asleep. Dont really care, will be caught up by day post most likely, dont care if you like it or not. Rayn still scum
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