EPTAlso RE: Hapa
Him being SK would make sense as who else would kill rayn?
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yamato77
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Also RE: Hapa Him being SK would make sense as who else would kill rayn? | ||
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if I'm mafia and Hapa is town I would leave rayn alive for years | ||
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Tomorrow will be a spotty day for me activity wise. I will have time before deadline to catch up hopefully. Later nerds. | ||
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He is exactly the type of player to play this way. | ||
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There's also a world where he's mafia JOAT, but I don't know how much I buy into that. Masons + JK + JOAT isn't OP for town, especially given SK + upgraded GF. Perhaps we have other blues claim if there are any? Otherwise I'm inclined to not lynch VA. | ||
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##Vote: Hapahauli | ||
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On August 25 2014 23:24 GlowingBear wrote: I gave analysis on night 1 kills and my conclusion was that Kelsen is the SK, but it is useless to discuss who is the SK now. Easier to find mafia with the godfather flipped. We are wasting our times trying to decide who is SK before deciding who is mafia au contraire, killing the SK now is an amazingly good play. It gives town double the effective time to solve the game. | ||
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Onegu is a much better lynch than him IMO. He is likely mafia given his inactivity and his poor reads. He also doesn't seem to be making a return, so at worst we lynch the modkill and stall for time, something that is relatively precious in a 2KP/night world. OR we could make DA BIG PLAYS and lynch Hapa. Like I said, this requires a pair, but it promises to be amazing. | ||
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On August 26 2014 02:13 turtlevine wrote: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Scum "Scum is a catch-all term for any member of an informed minority, such as Serial Killers and Mafia goons. During a day phase, everybody is seemingly trying to locate and eliminate these roles." Also, SK isn't an informed minority. He knows only his alignment & powers. He's more like a townie in that sense, but obviously he's playing to his own win condition which is incompatible with town's so he's anti-town. Only in that way is he similar to mafia, and thus, could be categorized with them. Mafiascum is not the place to learn about mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2014 03:45 Hapahauli wrote: Anyway, as for Vayne, there's a pretty easy way to tell if he's town or mafia. We have 2 masons and a Jailkeeper confirmed. Vayne is claiming JOAT. I think the likelyhood of there being another blue is pretty low. If another blue claims, Vayne is probably mafia. Discuss. I said this already. 0 points for Hapa | ||
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On August 26 2014 03:58 Hapahauli wrote: Why the hell would I address SK suspicions? It's paranoid nonsense, and I'm surprised that so many people are buying into it. For those who think I"m SK, answer me this: what is the difference between SK and Town play on Day 1? Because the answer is "nothing." There's literally every incentive for an SK to play completely normally and simply scumhunt. Perhaps you could pick up on someone being a bit too "survivalist", but does my play look like I"ve been concerned with my survival at all? I'll let the Rayn case speak for itself. I know I haven't played a game in a while, but it's like my town game has been deified to the point where I'm never going to live up to the unrealistic expectations that people set for me. And there being an SK in this game is apparently the perfect outlet for those expectations. Well, to be fair, a good portion of the best material is the fact that rayn was shot, which both happened during N1 and is SK-exclusive. And no, we just expect you to be more insightful than you are, which is not deification by any means. | ||
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On August 26 2014 03:56 Xatalos wrote: Well I don't really mind lynching VA either, but it could be better to lynch Onegu today. At least there's a decent chance that VA is actually JOAT based on those host "clues". Actually, the clues make his claim worse. Why would there be such obvious clues in the rules/late-posted role PM to verify his claim in a closed setup? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:10 Hapahauli wrote: Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi. Such WIFOM, many lies. Why wouldn't you just kill people dangerous to your survival like rayn? Honestly, who else would kill rayn? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:12 Hapahauli wrote: So instead of getting rid of someone who was suspicious of me, I switched my votes 4 minutes before the deadline to lynch mafia. Like. Really? If I flip town and am calling you mafia with my last breath it looks bad. | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote: He claimed cop. I'd assume a lot of people would justify killing him over that. I don't think anyone took that seriously unless they were paranoid of rayn checking them, and who fits that bill? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote: Doubt it. Do people tend to listen to you after you get lynched in your other games? Why would you switch if not for that reason? Surely your read on Robik wasn't strong, was it? Or were you just trying to blend in? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:18 Hapahauli wrote: This is honestly the most retarded discussion I've had in this game. And I"ve argued with JAT on Day 1. Why are we running like idiots around paranoia of the SK when it's likely we wont have information to lynch SK until later? At a certain point, the SK's motivation changes from pro-town to pro-SK, and that's how you catch him. We need to find mafia in the mean-time, and this discussion is literally the exact opposite of finding mafia. Finding SK D2 is both possible and a good play. We know who he shot and if we kill him we halve anti - town KP. | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:19 Hapahauli wrote: I've played a lot of games with Rayn. Do you think I'd be paranoid of Rayn checking me? Or even believe that he was cop? You would be if you were SK. | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:20 Hapahauli wrote: Ok you've gone off the NK WIFOM deep-end. Yeah I'm done with this. You think mafia killed rayn? Funniest joke yet. | ||
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