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On August 22 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:52 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. Why wouldn't a mafia say this? There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it. He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far. I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people. Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me. Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe. Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you? can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you. If me or Hapa says "lynch yamato" you will lynch yamato and not secondguess it for a second. ok? What is a Hapa? You are town for me so I would trust your reads, if Yam posts a bit more maybe I can reevaluate but for me he is town so far. That's the wrong way. If yamato DOESN'T post a bit more you should reevaluate your townread.
ahahahahhahah totes true. 100%
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So far were doing good.
We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town.
Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players.
I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly.
Is there anyone who thinks they are town?
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The thing with someone townreading you is this:
- As town you do not care because regardless of the reasons it is a null tell. Especially at the start of the game when there is not much information. The reasoning is most likely "gut", "genuine posting", or some other blabla. If the person calling you town is town you cannot have a better read on him because as mafia he would say the exact same thing regardless of how good/bad the read in fact is.
- As mafia you however DO care, because there are two possibilities. (1) The read is "good" and other people agree with it which brings you more town credit. Or (2) the read is bad and you make other people call that person scum for his bad read which makes him a lynch target. Both outcomes are "Profit!" if you are scum.
And that's why it's more likely that it's a mafia post.
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JAT: Xatalos looks like he is trying to figure out the game. He can bus as mafia, he most likely would if he was mafia. He is also way more "certain" about stuff as scum. I am not strongly townreading him and in case he is scum he will either fuck up at the EOD1 or bus. Both are good. 
Xatalos: The difference between JAT town and scumplay is like a day and night. Don't care to elaborate more on this at least yet. I do not understand why would you scumread him? Him not making a big case and voting at this point of the game does not make him mafia. In fact i think it makes him more likely to be town.
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I did already. One is enough.
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On August 23 2014 00:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:JAT: Xatalos looks like he is trying to figure out the game. He can bus as mafia, he most likely would if he was mafia. He is also way more "certain" about stuff as scum. I am not strongly townreading him and in case he is scum he will either fuck up at the EOD1 or bus. Both are good. Huh? I remember this being different.
I suggest you read Titanic II where he just bussed and bussed and bussed. And then they fucked up my perfect SK win with the host. 
Yes it has not always been so but i am pretty sure it nowadays is.
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Now you are not even reading the thread BlowingGear.
##unvote:
##vote: GlowingBear
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imo Xatalos (and Damdred) weren't calling you mafia because you didn't post. He called you mafia because your recent posts were bad as fuck.
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Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time.
This is funny haha <3
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You didn't push anything yesterday GB.
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On August 23 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time. This is funny haha <3 I really hope you are not scum >_<
Of course I am not. Although you'll probably be paranoid about it until N1 start.
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On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you
I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.
What's this Xatalos?
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On August 23 2014 00:29 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time. This is funny haha <3 Because you are both town. Think the lynch is between Xat and GB at the moment. I think WoS has played a lot stronger since the restart and GB has really slipped down.
I do not think this is the case with Wave.
Basically everything he says is just incorrect or he contradicts himself with what he says earlier. For example he called someone bad/scum for making an association case and then he made a shitty association case himself...
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On August 23 2014 00:28 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 23 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time. This is funny haha <3 I really hope you are not scum >_< Of course I am not. Although you'll probably be paranoid about it until N1 start. It you manage to mislynch me I bet he will be more than paranoid after n1.
Just read the thread, play the game and stop whining.
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brb i gotta go get some food. 10min.
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On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.
Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?
On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM
Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.
KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.
You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.
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In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?
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On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you
I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me. Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave. What's this Xatalos?
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Tell me Wave, what are grand points then?
You have two weak townreads and i have no idea why you think the people you are mafia are mafia.
Enlighten me because you have given us nothing concrete so far.
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On August 23 2014 00:57 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you
I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me. Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave. What's this Xatalos? No, you are null because you have played pretty similarly as both town and scum in recent games (not explaining stuff + pushing me hard early and then suddenly dropping it + being arrogant and confident in your reads).
But i have explained every singe thing i have said in this game.. As it READS IN MY FUCKING POST!
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