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On August 22 2014 12:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 12:37 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 12:32 GlowingBear wrote:On August 22 2014 12:25 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:On August 22 2014 12:10 Damdred wrote:
@Gb you said most likely to be mafia out of those posted talk to me why its him (1)He is too aggressive page 1. Being aggressive is a town play, but being too aggressive with too little information sounds scummy to me or beginner's paranoia. I was like that when I was a newbie and I did that last game against Rayn when I was mafia. (2) his entrance is a tcontributing post which doesn't days much actually. He could be trying to look contributive while being mafia. (3) free town passes. He gave a town pass to Robik but didn't to WoS and they were in the same level of "rudeness". Tbh, those three items post on WoS were valid, but WoS is an easy target if you consider all those items already in the beginning of day 1. Being aggressive is basically how I get my reads as town. Apparently this counts as tryhard but if I am rubbing people the wrong way this early then that probably makes me town. The tryhard town read on me is correct. I already explained my town passes is a d1 style of mine it is easier d1 to give someone a town pass and see who is left. I also want to explain what was different about Robik and WoS. So robik was the first guy to basically say "you are stupid" which I actually read as town. only after Robik did WoS come at me and it was like just 3 nothing questions to derail town with. After that his rudeness was just almost like evasive and not contributing in anyway. stuff like posting a gif file, or asking for the SK to kill me. Recently he has been a bit more active but it almost feels forced. He basically asked everyone to give a scum read, an easy way to seem active. and then asked Gb about yamato, who has only said looooooool. Like I think there were better questions to ask. Bolded part is an okay explanation. I also said you have valid points regarding WoS, but it looks to early to push that hard. I understand you said it is your town play style, but I have to have my own interpretations of what you do. You can begin to ask better questions now, instead of WoS So for me I am waiting for some new players to kind of start playing and give an interpretation. I want yamato to give anything apart from his lol post. You won't get much from Yamato. Check the games he has played and you'll see that he is not talkative regardless his alignment. Can you tell me why do you feel I'm town? I guess you already said that but I didn't get it clearly.
So I read you as town for a few reasons. I liked how you told WoS to start playing that felt town. You questioned my read on Robik which also felt like town figuring out my reasoning. And your interactions with WoS felt towny like you were giving useful info. Like I said you did enough to move into the d1 town pass.
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On August 22 2014 12:45 Damdred wrote:
I don't think he's as easy a target as those points you pointed to.
Point three is possibly the best one the rest are applicable right at that time but idk if it is now.
i like he was trying to get people talking and interacting it helps town atmosphere but i wish he would of said before he left who he had leaaning scum like he asked us.
So one thing that I don't like where his questions. like he said
"If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?"
Like this is a way to seem really active but you don't get much information. Like maybe I could be scummy for being aggressive but it is kind of a weird question for him to ask.
and then he asked GB about yamato. Like yamato said one meaningless thing, how is GB going to give some amazing insight like. oh if he has 10 O's in his Lol then he is mafia like it was just a stupid question to make it look like you are figuring shit out.
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It kind of felt affirming. Like of all the posters I have been the most active probably and so yeh I probably feel a bit scummy. WoS knew this he just wanted someone else in the thread to say "I duno kels could be mafia" like it just was a stupid question to try and make it seem like you were doing something.
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SLEEP TIME
as of right now
Town - GB, Dam, Turtle, Rob
Scum - WoS
people need to talk yo.
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I like Just as town, seems to share the same reads as me and I think he has pointed out flaws with Xatalos's post which I agreed with.
Yamato seems town so far, I like the way he is posting it seems genuine and relaxed, he shared the read as me on WoS but wasn't totally leaping on a bw.
Rayn feels town to me, his interaction with yamato felt town and his aggression with regards to Xatalos was town.
I don't like Xatalos so far.
Firstly his initial ranking system feels weird to me and doesn't line up with my reads. Like he said Wos was responding casual/towny and being natural..if that is what you call spamming gifs and shit posts then ok I dont read that as town at all.
Secondly his read on dama being mafia and then voting, I mean dama isn't my top town but he has still played in a town oritentated way. I think there are more important people to look at.
I also don't like his read on rayn, like he gets -1 point because he didn't post whilst he was asleep like how does this system work where WoS gets 4 points but rayn is on -1 for not being awake.
Xatalos I want to ask you, what do you think of the line of questioning that WoS went with. Specifically his asking everyone to give a scum, and asking GB to give a yamato read
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I don't really like Xanatos saying he now has a null read on rayn considering you gave him -1 already at the start and then saying you read him null when he is not really helping. Like rayn has been pushing quite a bit today and he feels pretty town to me so I can't see your logic at all.
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On August 22 2014 22:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2014 21:55 IAmRobik wrote:On August 22 2014 21:50 Xatalos wrote:On August 22 2014 21:47 GlowingBear wrote:On August 22 2014 19:22 Xatalos wrote:
GB should probably be higher than WOS btw. Just forgot to change the points while editing GB. Like when you already give high points to your mafia partner before writing things about players? I don't understand what you're trying to say here. He's saying you and wos are mafia together and you gave him free town points in your chart because you were just throwing in your teammate, not really caring about where he went as long as he was somewhere at the top of town - as you were already giving a weak reasoning for him being town to begin with Which is absolutely fucking retarded, by the way. If Xat and I were both scum I can say with absolute certainty there is NO WAY IN HELL I would let him call me top town based on essentially nothing. Hell I don't think Xat would even be so bad as to try that on his own either. Scum NEVER give each other massive townreads like that. It's completely unheard of. Kinda curious as to why you'd think Xat and I are both scum GB. Is it because we are the only people even slightly under the gun right now and you need to feel useful? I think Xatalos is scum because his play in this game is different from the games I played with him. That list post doesn't fit him. His vote on damdred was awkward. His +4 points on you were awkward. I like to feel useful 
Can you explain what was different from the last games?
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WoS do you think the +4 that Xatalos gave you was fair?
To me that makes me view you as more town and Xat as scum trying to buy a friend
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On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?
are you calling him mafia?
I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"
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For me I think Xat is actually the top lynch. like between Xat and WoS.
Xat giving WoS a +4 makes Xat scummier to me.
WoS who do you read as scum?
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On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia? are you calling him mafia? I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh" WARNING WARNING CONFIRMATION BIAS
I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.
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On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia? are you calling him mafia? I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh" WARNING WARNING CONFIRMATION BIAS I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. Why wouldn't a mafia say this?
There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it.
He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass
I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far.
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On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia? are you calling him mafia? I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh" WARNING WARNING CONFIRMATION BIAS I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. Why wouldn't a mafia say this? There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it. He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far. I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people.
Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me.
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On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia? are you calling him mafia? I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh" WARNING WARNING CONFIRMATION BIAS I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. Why wouldn't a mafia say this? There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it. He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far. I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people. Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me. Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis
So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe.
Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today
besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you?
can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you.
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On August 22 2014 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
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are you calling him mafia?
I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh" WARNING WARNING CONFIRMATION BIAS I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. Why wouldn't a mafia say this? There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it. He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far. I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people. Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me. Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe. Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you? can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you. If me or Hapa says "lynch yamato" you will lynch yamato and not secondguess it for a second. ok?
What is a Hapa?
You are town for me so I would trust your reads, if Yam posts a bit more maybe I can reevaluate but for me he is town so far.
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On August 22 2014 23:50 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
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are you calling him mafia?
I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh" WARNING WARNING CONFIRMATION BIAS I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. Why wouldn't a mafia say this? There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it. He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far. I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people. Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me. Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe. Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you? can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you. Sure the only analysis yamato gave was, he has a hard time reading wave and then next post he gave a analysis that wave is guilty of the same thing that he accused Kel of. also brb
Ah ok I get it now
Yeh I felt like that was a good read and the way it was delivered felt towny to me.
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On August 22 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 23:52 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired. Why wouldn't a mafia say this? There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it. He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far. I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people. Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me. Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe. Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you? can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you. If me or Hapa says "lynch yamato" you will lynch yamato and not secondguess it for a second. ok? What is a Hapa? You are town for me so I would trust your reads, if Yam posts a bit more maybe I can reevaluate but for me he is town so far. That's the wrong way. If yamato DOESN'T post a bit more you should reevaluate your townread.
meh he is town to me
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On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time. This is funny haha <3
Because you are both town.
Think the lynch is between Xat and GB at the moment. I think WoS has played a lot stronger since the restart and GB has really slipped down.
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On August 23 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:29 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time. This is funny haha <3 Because you are both town. Think the lynch is between Xat and GB at the moment. I think WoS has played a lot stronger since the restart and GB has really slipped down. I do not think this is the case with Wave. Basically everything he says is just incorrect or he contradicts himself with what he says earlier. For example he called someone bad/scum for making an association case and then he made a shitty association case himself...
My reason for calling his play "stronger" was because i really didn't like him at the start of the game. I also read Xat is scummy and I don't think scum gives his partner a +4 but I suppose this could be a possibility.
I still don't like WoS but he is at least being more useful. I don't like the way he has made some generic reads on Dama and gone after him as he is one of my top town.
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On August 23 2014 00:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 00:35 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 23 2014 00:29 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why are me and JAT posting the exact same fucking stuff all the time. This is funny haha <3 Because you are both town. Think the lynch is between Xat and GB at the moment. I think WoS has played a lot stronger since the restart and GB has really slipped down. I do not think this is the case with Wave. Basically everything he says is just incorrect or he contradicts himself with what he says earlier. For example he called someone bad/scum for making an association case and then he made a shitty association case himself... I still don't like WoS but he is at least being more useful. I don't like the way he has made some generic reads on Dama and gone after him as he is one of my top town. Explain.
His start of day play felt town he was trying to stop us getting derailed.
Then he had almost the same analysis as me on Xat's list post being weird so that felt good to me.
He questioned my yam read in a way that seemed he was actually curious about it.
And he didn't give GB an instant strong town read which is smart in hindsight considering how his play has fallen off.
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