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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 11:41 GMT
#266
On August 22 2014 20:37 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 22 2014 20:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.

I have not seen anyone blatantly lie yet. I think that happens later.
Having said that, I am town and thus I have no reason to lie about anything.

But how would you know that if you are town?

Read the thread and point out what is a lie. I haven't seen anything.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 11:46 GMT
#269
On August 22 2014 20:42 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 22 2014 20:41 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.

I have not seen anyone blatantly lie yet. I think that happens later.
Having said that, I am town and thus I have no reason to lie about anything.

But how would you know that if you are town?

Read the thread and point out what is a lie. I haven't seen anything.

Well, WoS claimed to be town for example. That could be a lie as far as I am concerned.

I thought I was the only one who hard claimed my role. Maybe I'm the one who needs to read better. I just remembered that xata and or Dandre's did as well

Maybe people are lying. Disregard my stupid/naive statement

I'm not lying though. I'm 100% town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#273
Me = town
JAT = town
Rayn = probably town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 12:07 GMT
#279
On August 22 2014 21:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Good morning. Lovely day.

It seems like this is the game I'll find 12 people scum and 1 townie. Awesome.

Forced
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 12:29 GMT
#286
It was most certainly forced. You have this weird unfounded hardon for GB as town 2 seconds into the game and it's completely unfounded and unwarranted. I don't even care about the WOs read as much as the GB one. Pretty sure your saying the GB thing because you know he's town and the only way you know that is if you're mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 12:53 GMT
#307
On August 22 2014 21:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 22 2014 21:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 21:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
I also forgot to mention, VA posted like once and disappeared I think?
Useless VA = town VA for the most part.
Except for the last time I mentioned this heuristic in thread and he attempted to try and change it up (but didn't do a fantastic job)

I don't think you can read VA by what he has posted so far.

Son, I can always read VA.

Town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 12:55 GMT
#308
On August 22 2014 21:50 Xatalos wrote:
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On August 22 2014 21:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 19:22 Xatalos wrote:
GB should probably be higher than WOS btw. Just forgot to change the points while editing GB.

Like when you already give high points to your mafia partner before writing things about players?


I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

He's saying you and wos are mafia together and you gave him free town points in your chart because you were just throwing in your teammate, not really caring about where he went as long as he was somewhere at the top of town - as you were already giving a weak reasoning for him being town to begin with
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 13:04 GMT
#314
On August 22 2014 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Robik, are you ACTUALLY town? I didn't read the scumgames you linked lol

I'm town. I have never ever claimed town as mafia. This game is no exception.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 13:29 GMT
#340
On August 22 2014 22:05 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 22 2014 22:04 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Robik, are you ACTUALLY town? I didn't read the scumgames you linked lol

I'm town. I have never ever claimed town as mafia. This game is no exception.

I would be really disappointed if you became grush 2.0 man.

No clue who that is. But meta is meta and I'm not willing to break mine...yet
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 13:29 GMT
#341
On August 22 2014 22:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 22 2014 22:04 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Robik, are you ACTUALLY town? I didn't read the scumgames you linked lol

I'm town. I have never ever claimed town as mafia. This game is no exception.

Wait what?
Seriously?

Has NEVER EVER EVER happened
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 13:37 GMT
#350
On August 22 2014 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 22 2014 22:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly, you just seem mad he included you in his dumb list.

That might be part of it but it still is just a completely baseless statement.

I think he was just town reading the majority if the people that had posted up to that point and that's why he said that 2 of the 4 non-posters were maf.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 13:54 GMT
#367
On August 22 2014 22:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also consider how eager he is to actively answer any and all questions thrown at him. Scum can be selective or often need to be prompted.

This is the silliest thing that I've ever read. Everyone is going to shoot down arguments against them, regardless of role.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 14:01 GMT
#374
Rayn specifically, but anyone else can - and is encouraged to - answer this,

Who are we lynching today given the info that we have thus far. Would I be correct in assuming that your top lynch is wos? If yes, who would be your 2nd choice
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 14:03 GMT
#380
On August 22 2014 23:00 Xatalos wrote:
WOS had a 15 page filter in the Championship game as scum... WTF. I guess my townread based on activity/participation was a bit premature. Down 2 points.

I laughed. Slight town points for going back and checking that though
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 14:15 GMT
#397
On August 22 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment.

I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more.

Because or but? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The only reason to not care about what someone's saying is if you think they're mafia. If you think he's town then you should care.

To make it easier for you: he said that when you're helpful and aggro you're town. When you're not helpful you could be mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 14:47 GMT
#434
On August 22 2014 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 22 2014 12:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 12:10 Damdred wrote:
@Gb you said most likely to be mafia out of those posted talk to me why its him


(1)He is too aggressive page 1. Being aggressive is a town play, but being too aggressive with too little information sounds scummy to me or beginner's paranoia. I was like that when I was a newbie and I did that last game against Rayn when I was mafia. (2) his entrance is a tcontributing post which doesn't days much actually. He could be trying to look contributive while being mafia. (3) free town passes. He gave a town pass to Robik but didn't to WoS and they were in the same level of "rudeness". Tbh, those three items post on WoS were valid, but WoS is an easy target if you consider all those items already in the beginning of day 1.


Being aggressive is basically how I get my reads as town. Apparently this counts as tryhard but if I am rubbing people the wrong way this early then that probably makes me town. The tryhard town read on me is correct.

I already explained my town passes is a d1 style of mine it is easier d1 to give someone a town pass and see who is left. I also want to explain what was different about Robik and WoS. So robik was the first guy to basically say "you are stupid" which I actually read as town. only after Robik did WoS come at me and it was like just 3 nothing questions to derail town with.

After that his rudeness was just almost like evasive and not contributing in anyway. stuff like posting a gif file, or asking for the SK to kill me. Recently he has been a bit more active but it almost feels forced. He basically asked everyone to give a scum read, an easy way to seem active. and then asked Gb about yamato, who has only said looooooool. Like I think there were better questions to ask.



Bolded part is an okay explanation. I also said you have valid points regarding WoS, but it looks to early to push that hard. I understand you said it is your town play style, but I have to have my own interpretations of what you do.

You can begin to ask better questions now, instead of WoS


So for me I am waiting for some new players to kind of start playing and give an interpretation. I want yamato to give anything apart from his lol post.



You won't get much from Yamato. Check the games he has played and you'll see that he is not talkative regardless his alignment.

Can you tell me why do you feel I'm town? I guess you already said that but I didn't get it clearly.

People who post these things always end up being mafia.


I share this sentiment. I don't know why, but mafia find it impossible to just accept an early town read without questioning it. Obviously town is afraid of being pocketed but they still like being called town because it means they are less likely to be mislynched. Plus townies automatically assume that they have done something townie to get town read whereas mafia have this guilty conscious about it
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 14:49 GMT
#439
On August 22 2014 23:47 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 22 2014 23:36 Xatalos wrote:
Specifically I like that you mirrored my own notes in how GB felt towny early on and has fallen from grace a bit in the recent pages.


I want to punch you in the fucking face for saying something like that. I said this was a busy day for me. I even bolded it so you wouldn't skip that motherfucking post.

What is this fake emotion cursing stuff? Who the fuck would get this angry?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 14:51 GMT
#442
On August 22 2014 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

WARNING
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

Why wouldn't a mafia say this?


There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it.
He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass

I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far.

I hate to break it to you but mafia often avoids giving concrete reads on people.


Yep I understand that idea but his interactions felt genuine to me.


Curious why you think this, all of yamatos stuff at this point is one or two lines and theres no real analysis


So he seemed relaxed made a few jokes about the poem, solving the game etc. Had a good town vibe.
Then he said "I can't read WoS that well" but then "he seemed to be shit posting and complaining about derailing, whilst derailing" something like that. Now to me that is pretty town, obviously some people disagree but it feels town enough for a d1 pass. Yamato is not the lynch for me today

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besides wave is guilty of the same thing kel is guilty of. Is that strong enough to really put into town pile and give a free pass today for you?


can you explain that in more detail I don't understand you.

This was turtle,not yamato
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 14:52 GMT
#447
On August 22 2014 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik i like you when you play the game. <3

I played the other game too. You were just too dead to realize it.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 15:01 GMT
#456
On August 22 2014 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So far were doing good.
We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town.
Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players.

I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly.
Is there anyone who thinks they are town?

I was iffy on wos until that one aggro post which was super townie. I think you'll hear some random opposition to a GB lynch
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