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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:08 GMT
#278
On August 18 2014 08:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Apparently I'm oting with mafia


Btw what did this mean Robik? And do you have anything to say about who could be scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:11 GMT
#279
On August 18 2014 23:03 Damdred wrote:
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On August 18 2014 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man I dont understand this part at all Damdred.
also just by reading the thread it looks like Xatalos would have the biggest filter day one so even if I did feel hes scummy I wouldn't push a lynch on him at this point its more town xat.

Why big filter = town and why wont you push him if you think he is scummy regardless of his filter?

buddy much?


Town Xatalos posts a lot and posts whatever hes thinking whenever in my experience with him. His filter size shows if hes being towny. And what i've noticed hes been pretty open about his reads and opinions isn't scared to be wrong and always tries to explain his thought process. And generally its always a bad idea to lynch into the people with the biggest filters day one normally they aren't mafia, if his play tapers off and he starts to lurk i'll rethink it but i don't think hes a good lynch for day one at all.

And Xat it did feel like you were just sheeping what Ray was saying at first but looking back over the thread I thought it was pretty consitant with what you been saying. So it was probably more of a reaction to being called mafia at this point, so yea i'm pretty town on you right now.


I like your read on me but I'd be even more interested to hear about who would you want to lynch instead? Because I basically agreed with rayn about you/Tehpoofter not looking very good during N0 and looking at Tehpoofter's latest towngame, it's not very different from his play so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:39 GMT
#286
On August 18 2014 23:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 23:08 Xatalos wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Apparently I'm oting with mafia


Btw what did this mean Robik? And do you have anything to say about who could be scum?

That means that I had a scum read on rayn to start the game and I voted him then I scumread someone who was voting for rayn. I forget who I was. Glowingbear maybe?


Oh, you meant "voting". Could you explain your reads though? Because it's a bit hard to follow your thought process.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:41 GMT
#287
On August 18 2014 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
WOAH FILTERS IN OP.
BASED PLAMMER!.

Whats up with geript, he hasnt posted at all this game.


"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:44 GMT
#288
I'm a bit confused Robik. With voting you mean that you were suspecting rayn, then GB started suspecting rayn and you suspected GB so you didn't suspect rayn anymore? Huh?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:47 GMT
#289
Well, I'd definitely want to hear more from GlowingBear. I think it felt pretty natural to talk about rayn with him, and dunno why he would spread suspicion on rayn while planning to shoot him, but anyways he hasn't really said much else yet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:48 GMT
#290
Is geript even aware that the game started? Doesn't look like it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:56 GMT
#294
(Btw you can't vote during night so that's partly why I've been confused, but I guess you just mean FOSing or something)

Why didn't you like GB's posts? I don't think it was unreasonable to think that rayn's posts could have been scum-motivated. Obviously it was just WIFOM like I thought it might have been, but I can see where GB was coming from.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 15:37 GMT
#297
On August 19 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't remember which post it was. Will look back and find it when I get home, but I'm certain you'll think I'm stupid and that it is insignificant.


I haven't even called you stupid or scum once so no need to be defeatist. Just focus on explaining yourself because your thought process hasn't been all that clear.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 15:39 GMT
#298
On August 19 2014 00:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:37 Xatalos wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote:
I hope he is and makes a mistake


He may not be the shitty witch, but I don't like that he started doing jokes about roles night0. Sounds like mafia trying to talk about blue roles and making it easier to the shitty witch to use his power.


Hm. I guess it would be best to be as silent as possible about our roles until N0 is over. Dunno what would be the point of that check thingy. Possibly scum-motivated, or just bored.


Rayn could be town trying to take a bullet, but that's dumb, and Rayn is a good player. Being bored isn't an excuse.
You gotta admit it is at least suspicious.

I didn't like this line. He's seeking validation which is scummy.


Hmmmm.... I guess it could be, combined with him dropping the issue after I wasn't too thrilled with the idea...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 15:45 GMT
#300
On August 18 2014 12:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Right, you played 2 previous games and cant remember which one?

man.

Ok whatever, whos scum?


I didn't said it was a game I was in, I said it was a game HE was in. I think I posted it on one post-game or on an obs qt.

Too early to tell. I'd still stick my vote on Rayn although I really don't like you picking on such futile reasons. Maybe you're scum. Are you?


This seems a bit weird if GlowingBear was scum. Why use the whole N0 bringing suspicion against rayn if he was going to be the NK anyway? (and I take back that he dropped the rayn issue, I just got the impression from the post where he said something like "I tried bringing out stuff on rayn but everyone dropped it" earlier on N0)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 15:47 GMT
#302
On August 19 2014 00:45 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 00:37 Xatalos wrote:
On August 19 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't remember which post it was. Will look back and find it when I get home, but I'm certain you'll think I'm stupid and that it is insignificant.


I haven't even called you stupid or scum once so no need to be defeatist. Just focus on explaining yourself because your thought process hasn't been all that clear.

I'm not defeatist. My thought process is not easily followed. I thought the point against glowingbear was going to be less clear to everyone, but having found the post I didn't like, I was easily able to explain myself. You clearly have never played with me before.


Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen you play? Good that you found your reason though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 15:48 GMT
#303
On August 19 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh, and you have 0 thought process. So like. You should probably fix that


Haha

I think I've been pretty transparent...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 15:57 GMT
#306
Well, if you have a huge amount of posts it's harder to have it be all raw content. I'd be more worried about those who have a somewhat smaller filter with less content in comparison.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 15:58 GMT
#307
Like Tehpoofter, but then again, it looks like he played similarly in his last game :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 16:13 GMT
#308
I kind of want to believe Damdred after his long posts about townreading me... But that's not *that* hard to fake so I'll wait until he switches on to scumhunting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 16:28 GMT
#312
To be fair he mentioned before scumreading you that he forgot the post that made him scumread you, then went and found it, so it's not like he invented a reason after mentioning a scumread... Probably. And playing "unusually" isn't scummy in itself really.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 16:45 GMT
#318
I looked at Robik's last game (town) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?user=IAmRobik and it looked pretty hilarious. I don't think there's any huge difference to this game though. How does he play as scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 17:06 GMT
#323
I don't really see Robik as Mafia atm. I've looked at his two most recent games (both town) and I think they're pretty similar to this game. GB, why is Robik's play here so "unusual"? I guess he's been a bit lurky until now, but it could be explained with his IRL situation easily I'd say.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 17:21 GMT
#325
Wait a minute. rayn said that Oats agreed with his post about Damdred, but to me it looks like it's the opposite? Oats didn't you instead mean that rayn didn't make sense and defended Damdred? Then how come you're on Damdred so hard now? Feels like a bit of a weird shift of attitude.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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