No, Palmar is clearly here so it can't be that he forgot to send me a PM. So you have to be scum too unless 1) you're faking for some reason (that's what I thought from your earlier "I'm thinking of strategies" post) or 2) there's something I'm not getting about the scum win condition

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 22:59 GMT

#783

No I'm the Veteran. So unless I horribly misunderstood something the remaining 2 townies are 1) Gunsmith and 2) gun holding VT

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:00 GMT

#784

Damdred disappearing in this situation doesn't look very good.

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:01 GMT

#786

Why?

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:08 GMT

#788

I've read you as town for a long time (and it helps that you stayed here to discuss this issue) so I'm trying to think of situations where you could be town. Atm I can't think of any but we'll see.

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:14 GMT

#794

So apparently it goes into a voterace scenario after all if it's 3 town vs 3 scum (instead of scum winning instantly). I received a contradictory answer earlier so that's that. This means that it's possible for the gun to have been given to Robik or to have been roleblocked away. So you could be town, geript, but both you and Damdred can't be.

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:15 GMT

#795

Shit. It's also possible that scum have the gun and the only way for them to lose would be to shoot me. In that case we're 100% screwed but I blame Palmar

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:23 GMT

#797

Well here are the 3 possible scenarios now:

1) Town has the gun

We have to A) shoot scum successfully OR B) let the gun expire and voterace 3 votes to a scum before they can

2) Nobody has the gun

We have to voterace 3 votes to a scum before they can

3) Scum has the gun

We can't win (unless they decide to shoot me for some unimaginable reason and then we'll have to voterace)

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:25 GMT

#799

So since one of geript/Damdred is town and one is scum, and I'm town, the remaining town HAS to vote on the one of those who is scum before the scumteam gets to it (unless town has the gun in which case it doesn't matter).

Gogogo vote Damdred

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:26 GMT

#800

hmm

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:29 GMT

#802

I really dislike Damdred's read evolution on me. It's like towny -> surely town -> surely scum -> surely town. And all this while I don't think I've really changed my posting style throughout the game (granted that the last evolution is because of my claim but still he instantly trusted it although I was his top scum just a bit before...?).

I think it has to be Damdred.

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:34 GMT

#806

Well I don't think it's bad to instantly vote since it's very possibly a voterace situation and you're 100% scum from his perspective if he's town.....

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:35 GMT

#807

Since there's only one VT remaining.

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:36 GMT

#808

Kind of lucky that scum killed a VT tonight in that sense.

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Finland9675 Posts

August 20 2014 23:37 GMT

#809

Tbh I don't think scum has the gun since they would have probably already shot someone else than me. Or maybe the gun holder is just AFK. Anyways it should be clear soon.